What could Kraft Have sued for?

People keep saying Kraft should have sued the league or goodell, but no one says what the grounds and damages would have been.

If you think he should have sued, say what for.

Insulting his intelligence.

I think he should have sued the plastic surgeon that worked on his girlfriend.

I think he should have appealed the penalties.

Froob said:

Insulting his intelligence.

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Kraft's mistake wasn't his not suing it was his lack of appeal and lack public support for the team or Brady after he decided to stop fighting.

He didn't have to sue. HE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TO PUBLICLY EXCEPT THE PUNISHMENT ON ALL FOURS. What part of that is so hard to understand for the defenders of Kraft? Stand by your team through thick and thin. Don't alienate your GOAT Qb and fan base. For the millionth time. F Him.

I think the answer to the question you're looking for is violation of anti-trust laws, in a similar vein to what Al Davis did when they wouldn't let him move the team. The truth of the matter however, is that Bob Kraft suing was never something that was on the table. How many owners have successfully won lawsuits in the entire history of all the professional sports? How many have even tried? Not many.

In all actuality, it was likely something that Peter King cooked up in the early days proceeding the announcement of the punishment, where he was WAY off base with his thoughts. Here is exactly what King said on the matter, in his completely clueless word for word statement:

"“My bet is that he will go rogue on this and my bet is that he will try to appeal this penalty in a court of law. There’s no way that he can appeal this as an owner, because owners just have to take the sanctions that the league sends down. He’d have to go outside the league.”-----Peter King May 13th

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/05/...rt/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Either King was about as wrong as wrong can be, or we've all been bashing Bob Kraft for no good reason

RayClay said:

People keep saying Kraft should have sued the league or goodell, but no one says what the grounds and damages would have been.

If you think he should have sued, say what for.

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Kraft was never going to sue, we all know that. But he could of still appealed(and lost) But he still b!tched out on that..

Funny tho, the Chargers appealed the towel stickum case and won. But hey..

..Owners of sports teams, are what they are, and Kraft is no different

JDot said:

Kraft was never going to sue, we all know that. But he could of still appealed(and lost) But he still b!tched out on that..

Funny tho, the Chargers appealed the towel stickum case and won. But hey..

..Owners of sports teams, are what they are, and Kraft is no different.

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Yeah, it's hard to believe that Peter King could've been so "off" on the comments that he made in my post above, particularly after the fairly recent Chargers case.

RayClay said:

People keep saying Kraft should have sued the league or goodell, but no one says what the grounds and damages would have been.

If you think he should have sued, say what for.

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I think most people are saying that Kraft should have formally appealed the punishment. Whether or not to sue would be a question left for after the appeal, and if after appeal he'd decided that he either couldn't or didn't want to sue, then I think the fans would've been okay with that.

But appeals exist for a reason, and Kraft deciding not to appeal has and will continue to be interpreted as an admission of guilt and hanging his QB out to dry.

And at a bare minimum, if you're going to decide not to appeal, the worst way to do it is to call a press conference and explain that you're doing it because the most fulfilling thing in your world is being in a super exclusive club with your 31 other billionaire buddies, and they come before your fans and your QB.

supafly said:

Yeah, it's hard to believe that Peter King could've been so "off" on the comments that he made in my post above, particularly after the fairly recent Chargers case.

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I am not really going to get into the Kraft is evil/Kraft did what is right arguments. Owners of sports teams, are owners of sports teams..

.. It is what its is(Try being a Toronto sports fan, look up MlSE and Rogers).

He didn't have to sue. He could have appealed through the official process. And yes he would have lost. But at least it would have been an act of defiance! He could have been on the record saying that the allegations were outrageous and that he openly contests them.

But he didn't even do that.

VectorPrime said:

He didn't have to sue. He could have appealed through the official process. And yes he would have lost.

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While he would've likely lost, I wonder if we'd have gotten a reduction in the loss of the 1st/4th round picks in any capacity? It sure does seem odd that he didn't, unless someone may have given him advice that it could potentially help Brady's case in some form?

I think the answer that RayClay was looking for was a violation of the anti-trust laws, in terms of "what" the specific lawsuit would've been, but it's certainly an excellent question since there was talk about a lawsuit a couple of months back.

I can't find it but I previously posted a possible statement Kraft could have made which would have been an acknowledgement that he was appealing, believed his QB and thought the penalties were out of line. It could have been a way to show support, defiance while understanding he was one of thirty two but his responsibility was first, foremost and always with the N E Patriots.
It would have not waived his appeal rights and certainly would not have been the PR disaster for him that this turned out to be.

Absolutely nothing! He doesn't have a case for a law suit against the NFLNFL.

He had an appeal but he gave that up. IMO that was stupid even knowing he wouldn't win. He would have been standing up for his employees and the fans. He doesn't deserve respect from his employees or the fans. To his face the employees will put on a false face like showing respect because of their pay checks.

It's a bad situation gone worse.

It was Kraft who at one time demanded an apology and then rolls over like a dog. His abandonment of the fanbase and his team is unforgivable. He did not stand up to the bully and now in the future every infraction or indiscretion by the team will be more of the same.

I believe there never was a possibility of a Al Davis type law suit. However I believe that using his rebuttal and appealing as vocally as possible he could have forced Goodell to at least negotiate the penalty like Bisciotti did concerning Rice before it blew up. In stead by his craven capitulation and Pathetic concession speech, he revealed what his priorities were and the Pats and its fans are way down the list likely behind a good BM in the morning. When the owner no longer cares enough about his team, its players and fans like Kraft does, itis time to to turn over the team to someone who does. Unfortunately, Kraft sacrificed of the goodwill of the fans in this exercise

tigerjohn said:

Kraft's mistake wasn't his not suing it was his lack of appeal and lack public support for the team or Brady after he decided to stop fighting.

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You think he would have won an appeal? Do you think he would have got an independent arbitrator?

I will always be a fan of the Patriots, will take more than this to destroy my loyalty...

Whether he could sue or not is a legal question and despite our projections of knowing what he could or could not do is beyond most of our legal abilities..

We do not even know the rules for the Owners.. it is not as though they have a negotiated agreement..

Even comparing it to Al Davis, does anyone know if the rules or goalposts have changed since then?? I suspect the almighty and powerful NFL has made some adjustments since those days to avoid replication of that fiasco..

Patriot Missile said:

He didn't have to sue. HE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TO PUBLICLY EXCEPT THE PUNISHMENT ON ALL FOURS. What part of that is so hard to understand for the defenders of Kraft? Stand by your team through thick and thin. Don't alienate your GOAT Qb and fan base. For the millionth time. F Him.

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I'm not saying he didn't look like a fool, I'm saying he was right that it would have been a waste of time.

Patsfanin Philly said:

I can't find it but I previously posted a possible statement Kraft could have made which would have been an acknowledgement that he was appealing, believed his QB and thought the penalties were out of line. It could have been a way to show support, defiance while understanding he was one of thirty two but his responsibility was first, foremost and always with the N E Patriots.
It would have not waived his appeal rights and certainly would not have been the PR disaster for him that this turned out to be.

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supafly said:

While he would've likely lost, I wonder if we'd have gotten a reduction in the loss of the 1st/4th round picks in any capacity? It sure does seem odd that he didn't, unless someone may have given him advice that it could potentially help Brady's case in some form?

I think the answer that RayClay was looking for was a violation of the anti-trust laws, in terms of "what" the specific lawsuit would've been, but it's certainly an excellent question since there was talk about a lawsuit a couple of months back.

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As one of the owners who gave goodell his power, he would sue the league for anti trust violations?

I'm not looking for an answer, because i know their isn't one. I'm just pointng out that no threat of a lawsuit exists, unlike Brady and the NFLPA. In my opinion, it would be begging the person who imposed the ridiculous penalty, the one you said owed the team an apology, to change his mind, whenever he got around to it.

Given that he is bound by the CBA and still can't decide his Brady appeal, I think it would have been a joke. I wouldn't really care if goodell changed it to a 2,3 and a 7th, I want goodell fried on a stick.