I don't think Deflategate has reached its peak yet

I am beginning to think that the NFL or Brady's team is holding something back so huge that it will destroy everything we know so far about this whole **** storm.

Otherwise why would it take over a month since the appeal to come a conclusion?

IMHO Brady's legal team has something huge and will cost Roger his job.

Your mouth to God's ear.

I don't think they have something, but the NFL has realized they've F'ed big time and unless they get a New York Jets fan judge or a judge that supports how the NFL office works they are in trouble of losing what could be a landmark case.

This thing has been such an emotional roller coaster.

Part of me wants this to be over quickly and we just get back to complaining about the CB situation.

The other part of of wants to see the NFL become the next Enron and Goody the next Kenny Lay.

I doubt it. Pretty sure Wells would of used it since his report is so weak to begin with.

Brady would of used it to squash this early. He may have something but I doubt it is earth shattering.

Unfortunately I m o Espn raked every cent of this story and so did the NFL. There is still the final decision that will raise a s;@& storm frenzy and the possibility of federal court but nothing will be like it was at its peak when the smear campaigns were going on. ****ing ******ed. The whole thing.

neither side has anything new of substance remaining ...... maybe some NFL office communications.

the only thing that will be relevant in the court fight (the suspension, not defamation) is the process and the problems stemming from that. cell phone convos as well as evidence pertinent to the act itself would not be presented other than for setting precedence for punishment and questioning independence and fairness

i think the waiting now is the only thing goodell has with the hope of having brady cave or not have the time to get an injunction, but the more goodell waits, the more it stops looking like he wants to 'get it right'

don't be surprised to see an about face with the league dropping everything but leaving a smear of brady it the wake......somebody's going to tell goodell 'the damage is done.....time to move on in order to avoid spiting ourselves'

NJPatsfan26 said:

I am beginning to think that the NFL or Brady's team is holding something back so huge that it will destroy everything we know so far about this whole **** storm.

Otherwise why would it take over a month since the appeal to come a conclusion?

IMHO Brady's legal team has something huge and will cost Roger his job.

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Very unlikely.

Nothing good has happened pertaining to this situation for brady/pats fans since the report first came out after the colts game. When we hear good news it will be the first time.

5thRing-Hunt said:

Nothing good has happened pertaining to this situation for brady/pats fans since the report first came out after the colts game. When we hear good news it will be the first time.

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we don't hear anything because brady learned a long time ago that keeping quiet works best.......or at least appearing to be keeping quiet

My deflation has certainly reached its peak, when will this clown show end? Hot TAEKZ everywhere

something happens today..
shefter and polian are in studio at espn..

Peak of what, stupidity? I hope we have passed it, but if the appeal ruling goes against Brady I think we are headed to an all-time high.

Rodger Dodger waiting longer than needed to keep Patriots guessing and make
them prepare for two training camp scenarios.

I do think we didn't reach the tip of the iceberg yet but in fact there's no decision so we are still waiting the verdict, anyway, I believe in a few points:

1 - NFL doesn't have a smoking gun, either real or planted.

2 - Goodell doesn't want to back off for whatever reason, but he knows he has to, or should. This wait suggests they realized is the only way out. They are still chasing their own tale like a stupid dog trying to find another way though.

3 - Goodell's PR is already shot, it doesn't matter how this will end up, people will brought this up with a negative spotlight in the next NFL scandal. So in my point of view we are past the "Goodell wants to look good for the average NFL fan and media". From now on it's all about their dirty agenda.

4- If Goodell had any confidence, or anything substantial, he would have already hammered his decision and kept the 4 games, they have nothing and they know they are ****ed up in a federal court.

5 - If there is subpoena and electronic investigation I don't think they will find something chocking, they got to be smarter than this, I hope Goodell keeps surprising me though.

6 - With all that said, I still don't feel very confident and optimistic, I think the whole process is ridiculous and they are not even trying to fake anymore, I'm afraid the NFL has important people in their pockets.

That's what I find reasonable, now there's still room for some random ideas and speculations:

1 - That TV show that listed Brady in a list of people who we though were heroes, or decent, or whatever, and are cheaters, might be what Brady needed for a defamation suit.

2 - Wells is burned and it's not going to work in NFL investigations anymore. WHAT IF he covered his ass and already told Goodell that if he tries to use him as the fall guy he is going to make some facts public about his hiring. For all accounts he is a famous attorney, he must have street smarts. He already did a dirty job for the NFL before so it's not a long shot to think that fabricating reports in a multimillionaire industry is not going to end well every time.

3 - The report of last week of a Lawyer who advised the NFL before saying he couldn't believe Goodell put himself in this situation is substantial, he didn't only violated the CBA, he tore into pieces, threw up and took a dump all over it. If the NFLPA wanted something meaningful to target Goodell they have it now.

I would not be surprised if

1) TB and the NFLPA have found out who the NFL and Ted Wells looked to for a scientific opinion before going to Exponent, and

2) that TB and the NFLPA have also learned that the NFL and Ted Wells did not like what they were hearing from this first group of scientists that they consulted.

Is that a bombshell?

Well, it is something that would make them look very bad at trial.

TB has everything he needs to shred the NFL. The lies and and sting operation stuff is overwhelming. Plus the evidence against him is poor and in fact wouldnt even be considered useful since it full of such holes. It is completely comical.

This should cost RG his job and be a huge black eye for the league. I mean to set up a sting to frame a marque player. TB should destroy them even if the suspensions are wiped out.

Well guess i was right with the whole Brady destroyed his cell phone angle and must be guilty

For months we have been waiting for this theory that eventually brady's side will blow this out of water. Even when the suspensionw as announced yee went around talking rhetoric . But nothing has happened yet. Maybe they are holding back. But the NFL also has lawyers and they also will hold some cards. Iam not as optimistic about the whole court stuff. Plus the NFL made sure the damage the reputation of one of its greatest players.

Bruins29 said:

TB has everything he needs to shred the NFL. The lies and and sting operation stuff is overwhelming. Plus the evidence against him is poor and in fact wouldnt even be considered useful since it full of such holes. It is completely comical.

This should cost RG his job and be a huge black eye for the league. I mean to set up a sting to frame a marque player. TB should destroy them even if the suspensions are wiped out.

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The NFLPA at least according its words today is going to file a court appeal based on process and precedence .Not on the sham investigation unfortunately. Sadly today was the last chance we had to prove something. the court case is not going to be about phones or science.Purely about goodell's authority I believe.