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Based on Curran's criteria, who is the second best Patriot of the BB era?

  • Vince Wilfork

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • Troy Brown

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Rob Gronkowski

    Votes: 8 17.4%
  • Tedy Bruschi

    Votes: 13 28.3%
  • Willie McGinest

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Mike Vrabel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Richard Seymour

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Ty Law

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Rodney Harrison

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Randy Moss

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Total voters
    46
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Tom Curran put Vince Wilfork at #2. In my opinion, this is a good choice although there is more than one good choice. Curran's criteria is below:

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/brian-waters-is-50th-best-player-of-bill-belichick-era

-- First, level of play. How good was the player in his tenure with the team?

-- Next, impact. How consequential to the team’s success was his presence? Did he make improve the play of the players around him? Was he a player opponents had to specifically concern themselves with?

-- Next, team success. How much did the player contribute to outstanding teams? How many outstanding teams was he a part of?

-- Finally, Patriotism. It’s a “know it when you see it” kind of thing. A combination of game intelligence. versatility, the ability to perform well in big games and not giving a crap who gets the credit. Hard to measure.

Who would you vote for #2? Did Curran get it right, or was there another player more deserving? I've included a poll. The poll didn't allow for any more slots, and the other players I was going to add were Vinatieri, Welker, and Light.

I couldn't bring myself to add Mankins even though by individual accolades, he may be the second most decorated player behind only Brady. Too many nightmarish memories of him getting destroyed in the playoffs and SBs time after time, injured or not. Many would argue the same about Welker, though he typically performed well in big games with the exception of a few memorable plays.

Hopefully the guys I left on were the right choices. Although Moss is the only one without a ring, come on, man, it's Randy Moss. 2007 may have been the greatest season by an offensive player (non-QB) this century.

Apologies in advance for leaving off Ochocinco.
 
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I love me some Big Vince and he is a worthy #2. But I chose Willie.

(1) "Get in your playbook" (2) tackling Indy RB on the goal line (3) bridging the gap between Parcells/BB (4) respected vets buying in was important for the team.
 
I chose Willie.

(1) "Get in your playbook" (2) tackling Indy RB on the goal line (3) bridging the gap between Parcells/BB (4) respected vets buying in was important for the team.

Nothing wrong with that choice. So many players with a legitimate claim.
 
I stay with Wilfork. He's got Bruschi's attitude and Seymour's ability. His longevity and consistency match Brady's.

Willie mac is a great choice at 2 as far as 'greatest patriot,' but he's talking about belichick Era.
 
I might have picked Troy Brown, But I'm fine with Vince or Bruschi. Full career, Championship to Championship and pretty much a one man line a few years that they still contended in between.
 
In the other Curran thread, I have Law 2A and Seymour 2B. The presence of both players allowed those championship defenses to morph from play to play.
Law was an island that freed other secondary pieces and allowed BB to disguise.
Ditto with Seymour.....His dominance at the LOS forced teams to double up on him......like Vince. The difference..Seymour could legitimately get to the passer. Seymour's presence on the LOS allowed BB to manipulate his LBs into play makers consistently.
The Law/Seymour combination was the foundation of those great defenses.
PS......Seymour was NE's highest draft pick of the BB era.....and Belichick nailed it. Mediots ridiculed this pick because of lack of college stats....and were clamoring for offensive sizzle.
Remember Borges...

""On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the second-best tackle in the draft in Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sack last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon."

.....as always, off point Ron,
How different a team would NE have been without Big Sey. Wilfork fell into NE's lap......not Seymour. BB saw the future and grabbed it.
You look at that draft....two foundation pieces in Big Sey and Light......BB was hittin on all cylendars as a coach and as GM.
1) Brady
2a) Law
2b) Seymour
4) Gronk
5) Light
................BB's foundation for success
 
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I am surprised no votes for Rodney yet. I have him as #2 behind only Gronkowski. Rodney was as valuable to the defense as Brady was to the offense during those SB years. He may not have dominated like Seymour or Law, but the Pats defense was still elite when Law and Seymour suffered injuries. Without Rodney, they were a mediocre unit. That is also the reason I have Gronkowski as number one (not counting Brady of course.). Still, so hard to choose one player that stands out from that group since they are all so deserving.
 
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Vince. He and Brady are the only players with rings 10 years apart, and he played at an elite level throughout. Both are HOF players imo.
 
I feel like Ty Law made such an impact that it is hard not to choose him. I too struggled between Law and Seymour, but ultimately chose Law. He made so many plays, it was unbelievable. definition of playmaker.

Harrison was awesome too, but maybe he just wasn't here long enough?
 
I voted Bruschi. The guy could do it all, on the field and in the locker room. He's also the only player I can remember who choked up Bill just because he wasn't going to play football anymore. Bill called him the "Perfect Football Player" and that's good enough for me.
 
I'll stay with Vince, though you could argue that the Gronk (already) has been an even more transformative player. But, boy, do I love Tedy and Randy!
 
The moment I saw Seymour all the way down at #8, I knew this list was useless.

Why? You think #8 is all the way down of BB era top "Patriots"? I mean I'm fine with Sey at #8, but most for sure wouldn't rate him much higher than #5 or #6, maybe #4 at best, over those other players that bled Red & Blue. It's not far-fetched Sey lands at #8. Many great players on that list.
 
gronk...and it's not close.
i'd put seymour and ty law ahead of vince as well.
 
I guess BB saw that one differently.

1.) You're making an assumption.
2.) This isn't BB's list
3.) BB doesn't get to be sole arbiter of who's the best Patriot, anyways
 
List List every where a list
Blocking up the forum and breaking my mind
put this guy here or that guy there
can't you read the list......
 
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