There It Is! NFL Informed Officials of New 2015 Game Ball Procedures This Weekend

shmessy said:

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ots-mike-pereira-changes-to-game-balls-072615

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I am SHOCKED, because I clearly remember the NFL and ESPN informing me a few months ago that there would be NO changes to the pre-game ball preparation.

Let's hope those "select games" when they check the PSI post games are not warm weather games in South Florida or domed games in St Louis and Indy but rather cold weather games in Green Bay, Buffalo, and Foxboro.....

The Patriots should still run their own measurements for every one of their games. Or at least Brady should have a couple guys do it. Then publicly release the results every week.

So you're saying there was a problem

During halftime, the balls from both teams will be inspected and the PSI results will be measured and recorded by the two designated members of the crew who inspected them during the pregame. Once measured, those game balls will then be secured by the security representative and removed from play. The backup balls will then be used for the second half.

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Guess that's the best they could do to prevent the Patriots from pulling a cold ball aside and showing the PSI drop. Still got the end of the first half to measure though.

Any game ball within the allowable range of 12.5 to 13.5 PSI will be approved and the PSI level will not be altered. Any game ball determined to be over 13.5 PSI or under 12.5 PSI will either be deflated or inflated to 13.0 PSI. Last year there was no specific measurement of 13.0 required if an adjustment had to be made.

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Those are the guidelines for the pre-game measurement. Here's what it says about the halftime measurement:

During halftime, the balls from both teams will be inspected and the PSI results will be measured and recorded by the two designated members of the crew who inspected them during the pregame. Once measured, those game balls will then be secured by the security representative and removed from play. The backup balls will then be used for the second half.

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So what happens if they find an under or overinflated ball at halftime? Where's the part about taking away a 1st round draft pick and suspending the QB?

Do the Colts have to supply more than 4 balls or nah?

Is it foolishly optimistic of me to consider that maybe possibly maybe the league is considering taking Florio's and King's advice to measure footballs this season and delay any punishment until afterwards?

I have been burned so much these past 6 months thinking that people would act in good faith. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 12 times, shame on me.

The Patriots don't need to use the actual game balls for their own measurements. That would be against the rules anyway. They should just bring out extra regulation style balls, make sure they are CLEARLY MARKED as such so there is no confusion onto which balls go onto the field, and then measure those ones.

shmessy said:

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ots-mike-pereira-changes-to-game-balls-072615

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They better have a clearer SOP than what was reported. They should just measure them on the field of play at all times and record the temperature along with the pressure measurements.

Another question. If they are going to maintain checking the pressure in a warm locker room before a game that is played in cold weather does that mean the NFL does not care that the balls will be below regulation pressure during game time ? Or does that mean they still don't understand the principles of the gas law?

VectorPrime said:

The Patriots should still run their own measurements for every one of their games. Or at least Brady should have a couple guys do it. Then publicly release the results every week.

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They will not allow a team to do anything to those footballs other than play the game with them.

OK. So, what does this mean?

In the next few days, Goodell upholds the suspension of Brady and says that "we have now put procedures in place to make sure so dastardly a deed is never done again?"

In the next few days, Goodell overturns the suspension of Brady, fines him for not co-operating in the investigation and says what Sally Jenkins suggested weeks ago: "I have concluded that the NFL procedures in place in the AFCCG and throughout the season were inadequate to such a degree that we can not even determine if any "deflation" of the game balls, whether as the result of human intervention or the laws of physics, occurred at that time. We have now put new procedures in place to assure that what was alleged regarding the conduct of Mr. Brady and the Patriots during the AFCCG can not occur in the future."

Tony2046 said:

They will not allow a team to do anything to those footballs other than play the game with them.

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Or steal them and measure them yourself.

Tony2046 said:

They will not allow a team to do anything to those footballs other than play the game with them.

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Ive said it before. Dont use the actual game balls. Bring out separate balls of the same type and measure those.

The Patriots should inflate a non game balol to 12.5 psi indoors, display the process on the big screen inside the stadium, show the ball being transported to the field. Display the ball prominently on the sideline, then at halftime measure the psi being measured on the big screen in the stadium.

Do this for all games when the temp will be under 50 degrees.

Embarrass the NFL. Get the damn pick back, exonerate Brady.

Tony2046 said:

They better have a clearer SOP than what was reported. They should just measure them on the field of play at all times and record the temperature along with the pressure measurements.

Another question. If they are going to maintain checking the pressure in a warm locker room before a game that is played in cold weather does that mean the NFL does not care that the balls will be below regulation pressure during game time ? Or does that mean they still don't understand the principles of the gas law?

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My interpretation is they will check the balls at room temperature before the game. Any deviation from the 12.5 to 13.5 range that takes place due to natural climate is allowed. In fact, according to the Ideal Gas Law, if it is cold enough outside, it will be impossible for a ball to pass pregame inspection AND stay within legal range after being outside for a couple hours.

And if the NFL has some stupid rule about not being allowed to bring extra non game balls on to the field then have them put on the concourse or something. It's not that hard.

XLIX said:

My interpretation is they will check the balls at room temperature before the game. Any deviation from the 12.5 to 13.5 range that takes place due to natural climate is allowed. In fact, according to the Ideal Gas Law, if it is cold enough outside, it will be impossible for a ball to pass pregame inspection AND stay within legal range after being outside for a couple hours.

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Thats exactly right. In 110 degree weather the footballs will measure 14.5 - 15.5 psi and in 0 degree weather the footballs will measure 9 - 10 psi.



Thanks for finding the error and the correction @raduray .

But air pressure is as complicated as Quantum Mechanics duh