NBC's King AND Florio to Goodell: Postpone All Framegate Penalties to 2016

shmessy · Jul 21, 2015

These two are now throwing down pretty strong and coordinated stuff at the Commish:

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As explained by King on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio — and as he said in his latest Monday Morning Quarterback column — the NFL should defer any punishment of quarterback Tom Brady until then, too.

“I think it takes a leader to stand up and say, ‘We’re going to be measuring the air pressure in football for the first time ever this season, before and during and after games. And this is too important an issue to not have all the evidence in-house before we make a ruling,” King wrote.

The question is whether Commissioner Roger Goodell will be that leader, or whether he’ll feel compelled to justify the conclusions of the multi-million-dollar Ted Wells investigation by validating the report on which the suspension was based.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...stpone-all-deflategate-discipline-until-2016/

Ice_Ice_Brady · Jul 21, 2015

I think it takes a leader to...

In other words, it isn't happening.

slackerjack · Jul 21, 2015

Heard this on 98.5 earlier today. I am hoping the delay in the Goodell's announcement is the result of negotiating a compromise with Brady. Brady is all in, zero game suspension or court. The worst possible result would be Goodell drops to two games and Brady goes to court. Meanwhile, each and every game of the season Belichick tells the officials he is suspicious of the opponent's ball pressure. Belichick has no direct evidence but hell neither did the Colts.
And slowly but surely, agonizingly slow in a drip, drip fashion, week after week the numbers come back. Low and behold science backs up the Patriots' claims all along. Goodell is proven to be an idiot, running around like Barney Fife looking for a non-existent crime.
And, Bob Kraft? He is shown to be a putz, who didn't believe his quarterback but believed a convicted murderer. Mr. Kraft you are a schmuck!

PlainOldEd · Jul 21, 2015

About 50/50 on the poll......

The Brandon Five · Jul 21, 2015

Not a chance in heck.

Exhibit A:

(Shocker /s) No Changes to Pre-Game Ball Inspections in '15

NashuaPats · Jul 21, 2015

slackerjack said:
Heard this on 98.5 earlier today. I am hoping the delay in the Goodell's announcement is the result of negotiating a compromise with Brady. Brady is all in, zero game suspension or court. The worst possible result would be Goodell drops to two games and Brady goes to court. Meanwhile, each and every game of the season Belichick tells the officials he is suspicious of the opponent's ball pressure. Belichick has no direct evidence but hell neither did the Colts.
And slowly but surely, agonizingly slow in a drip, drip fashion, week after week the numbers come back. Low and behold science backs up the Patriots' claims all along. Goodell is proven to be an idiot, running around like Barney Fife looking for a non-existent crime.
And, Bob Kraft? He is shown to be a putz, who didn't believe his quarterback but believed a convicted murderer. Mr. Kraft you are a schmuck!

Compromise? There can be no compromise. War! Destroy the clown that is goodell. Goodell, the ass clown, struck first and gave no alternatives. Destroy him!

h0c2000 · Jul 21, 2015

Does Tom agree to a delay in the appeal decision? Postponing the decision almost certainly requires the NFLPA sign off on this.

Kontradiction · Jul 21, 2015

The NFL already backed up the Brinks truck for Wells. What King and Florio are suggesting just simply ain't gon' happen.

PlainOldEd · Jul 21, 2015

The problem with testing balls next season is if they still insist on ignoring Walt Anderson's best recollection of which gauge he used the Pats balls will still appear to be the annomoly.

The Gr8est · Jul 21, 2015

PlainOldEd said:
The problem with testing balls next season is if they still insist on ignoring Walt Anderson's best recollection of which gauge he used the Pats balls will still appear to be the annomoly.

No they won't. As long as the league uses a consistent set of calibrated gages, with teams setting their balls, pre-game within the proscribed 12.5-13.5 psi,with varying conditions as the game start times, seasons, and weather change, the readings will be all over the place.

Demonstrating not only that the NFL* leaders are fools, but also that expecting balls to always be in that range is a fool's errand.

RobertWeathers · Jul 21, 2015

The NFL doesn't want any light shone on this.

By announcing all kinds of additional processes and modification of procedures, they admit that their system was faulty.

Therefore the best action is no action.

patfanken · Jul 21, 2015

I'm suspicious of this call for a "delay in punishment". To me, all it would mean is that the this perpetual nightmare would extend another full year.....and we'd still probably lose the draft picks. It might be nice that we can start the season with Brady not worrying about when his season will start, but the stain of "framegate" will continue as we have all seen.

The only positive I see to postpone the punishments would be it will give us another full year to repudiate the fraudulent Welles report.

Armchair Quarterback · Jul 21, 2015

F that. The NFL hasn't proven anything. Brady shouldn't accept any punishment. They've dragged this idiocy out long enough.

lurker1965 · Jul 21, 2015

Way to postpone lawsuit #1 (NFLPA v. NFL) but not #2, #3, or #4 (Defamation brought by Brady, Jastremski, and Doritos Dink.)

BradyFTW! · Jul 21, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
I think it takes a leader to...

In other words, it isn't happening.

I agree, but at least King and Florio are setting it up so that it's clear that Goodell isn't a leader if he does what we all know he's going to do. Anything that chips away at Goodell's credibility is good as far as I'm concerned.

Jlaff · Jul 21, 2015

I agree that this delaying punishment would be unnecessary, although it would be great for the team penalty Kraft already submissively accepted.

This NFL office has already shown they will jump to whatever conclusion they desire, waiting until the end of the regular season will just provide them more opportunity to falsify evidence and claim an even more "fair" assessment of the situation. I wouldn't put it past the Kensils in the front office to start inflating footballs in a cold room before the game, etc. to produce the result they want. And then the suspension will be handed down during the playoffs.

I'd rather Brady go against the evidence they are already so confident in now.

PatsWickedPissah · Jul 21, 2015

Media beginning to break ranks from the NYFL hegemony

PatSunday · Jul 21, 2015

This is hilarious. So, during a really hot or cold game, Belichick will take an opponent's ball, measure it with a ball gauge he brought to the field (why did the Colts equipment guy bring a ball gauge to the field if you're not supposed to measure the balls or do anything which might affect the air pressure while you're sticking it into the ball?).

If the ball is below 12.5 or above 13.5 BB will tell the referees and expect them to measure every ball on the field during half-time. And then, a $5 million dollar investigation and a fine to the opponent after both team balls are found out of range.

This is beyond absurd, I can't wait.

Fencer · Jul 21, 2015

patfanken said:
I'm suspicious of this call for a "delay in punishment". To me, all it would mean is that the this perpetual nightmare would extend another full year.....and we'd still probably lose the draft picks. It might be nice that we can start the season with Brady not worrying about when his season will start, but the stain of "framegate" will continue as we have all seen.

The only positive I see to postpone the punishments would be it will give us another full year to repudiate the fraudulent Welles report.

I think the chance of the league doing the right thing is very low -- single-digit percentages. But if they do, then it could be the really right thing, along the lines:

"Serious doubts have been raised as to whether the scientific analysis we invested in was correct. Fortunately, there's a way to address that issue -- measure and test actual footballs at actual games. This is a good idea anyway, as it could lead to a general improvement of our competitive rules, which is of course something we put as the highest priority at all times.

Thus, with the consent of Tom Brady and the NFLPA, we are deferring a decision on his appeal until more evidence is gathered, and deferring his penalties accordingly.

There is no news today about the Patriots' team penalties, nor will we comment about them until our evidence is collected."

MitchKumstein · Jul 21, 2015

PatSunday said:
This is hilarious. So, during a really hot or cold game, Belichick will take an opponent's ball, measure it with a ball gauge he brought to the field (why did the Colts equipment guy bring a ball gauge to the field if you're not supposed to measure the balls or do anything which might affect the air pressure while you're sticking it into the ball?).

If the ball is below 12.5 or above 13.5 BB will tell the referees and expect them to measure every ball on the field during half-time. And then, a $5 million dollar investigation and a fine to the opponent after both team balls are found out of range.

This is beyond absurd, I can't wait.

Heh, I love it. I could absolutely see Belichick doing this as a huge F YOU to goodell and the rest of the ex-jets clowns currently employed by the NFL

And then I want to hear goodell try to explain why the jests aren't losing draft picks when their footballs measure at 12.2 psi

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