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We have to assume this is 100% true before any investigation, simply because the Broncos have a long history of cheating (both on and off the field.)
They should be fined a 1st and 4th round draft pick in addition to $1,000,000 as per new precedent for multiple offenses.
 
Can't wait until 30 of the other 31 lose picks etc. and the NY Jets are awarded the entire draft.
Trust me, it's coming!
They'll leave the NY Giants out of it too, just to try and keep people guessing which NY team them like and to maintain the integrity of the SB.
 
What on Earth is a "Gronk situation",
THIS is a Gronk situation:

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Considering the off the field crap that Kraft has been up to since Myra died what right does he have to criticize Gronk? Maybe he's just jealous that the kind of girls Gronk hangs out with don't require payment.
 
It's been months and everyone is still posting the same bitter and lame deflategate jokes. How many times have threads had a sarcastic "oh, this will end with the patriots losing a pick" comment? its literally the same whining comments over and over for months. Jeez. I'd give up the 2017 first round pick just to get everyone to stop whining and acting like the entire world has a vendetta against us. It sucks, it's over, either learn to enjoy the NFL again or stop watching already. Why are you getting upset over something that is supposed to be entertainment?

Can we for once talk about the actual topic?

For anyone who wants to discuss it – how do you think this happens? And how often? Would both teams agree to not pay the players over a certain amount to try to make them both sign for less?
You again. I actually read this and almost gave a lengthy response. Since its you I'll just leave it with we can't stop talking about it until it's over and even then it will be hard to let go. Once Brady is free I will move on somewhat. Never forget but move on.
 
This story will be ignored but the NFL will look into Kraft and Brady colluding to keep Brady's contract down.

The NFL will claim its much more dangerous if owner and player do it instead of two teams ignoring the fact this is actually called contract negotiations.
 
It's been months and everyone is still posting the same bitter and lame deflategate jokes. How many times have threads had a sarcastic "oh, this will end with the patriots losing a pick" comment? its literally the same whining comments over and over for months. Jeez. I'd give up the 2017 first round pick just to get everyone to stop whining and acting like the entire world has a vendetta against us. It sucks, it's over, either learn to enjoy the NFL again or stop watching already. Why are you getting upset over something that is supposed to be entertainment?

Can we for once talk about the actual topic?

For anyone who wants to discuss it – how do you think this happens? And how often? Would both teams agree to not pay the players over a certain amount to try to make them both sign for less?

I think it's MORE PROBABLE THAN NOT THAT TEAMS ARE AT LEAST GENERALLY AWARE that something like this happens regularly.
 
It's been months and everyone is still posting the same bitter and lame deflategate jokes. How many times have threads had a sarcastic "oh, this will end with the patriots losing a pick" comment? its literally the same whining comments over and over for months. Jeez. I'd give up the 2017 first round pick just to get everyone to stop whining and acting like the entire world has a vendetta against us. It sucks, it's over, either learn to enjoy the NFL again or stop watching already. Why are you getting upset over something that is supposed to be entertainment?

Can we for once talk about the actual topic?

For anyone who wants to discuss it – how do you think this happens? And how often? Would both teams agree to not pay the players over a certain amount to try to make them both sign for less?

Are you whining about other people's whining?
 
It's been months and everyone is still posting the same bitter and lame deflategate jokes. How many times have threads had a sarcastic "oh, this will end with the patriots losing a pick" comment? its literally the same whining comments over and over for months. Jeez. I'd give up the 2017 first round pick just to get everyone to stop whining and acting like the entire world has a vendetta against us. It sucks, it's over, either learn to enjoy the NFL again or stop watching already. Why are you getting upset over something that is supposed to be entertainment?

Can we for once talk about the actual topic?

For anyone who wants to discuss it – how do you think this happens? And how often? Would both teams agree to not pay the players over a certain amount to try to make them both sign for less?

Nice try, but bitter, lame and predictable are in these days.
 
You again. I actually read this and almost gave a lengthy response. Since its you I'll just leave it with we can't stop talking about it until it's over and even then it will be hard to let go. Once Brady is free I will move on somewhat. Never forget but move on.

I'm still leaning toward dumping the NFL when Brady leaves. I can't see rooting for a sport that's administered by people who want certain teams to win. I might as well be watching wrestling.
 
I'm still leaning toward dumping the NFL when Brady leaves. I can't see rooting for a sport that's administered by people who want certain teams to win. I might as well be watching wrestling.

If that is what they are trying to do, man they are failing epically. Watching them continually screw that up is awesome enjoyment in and of itself.

The more they fail, the more we win......

It will change, they will wake up, the Tagliabue and Rozelle ways of a commissioner protecting the shield not tarnishing it, will return , hopefully much sooner rather than later - but it will change.
 
I'm still leaning toward dumping the NFL when Brady leaves. I can't see rooting for a sport that's administered by people who want certain teams to win. I might as well be watching wrestling.

This is understandable but I would prefer to stick around to see what else BB can accomplish with this team.
 
I'm still leaning toward dumping the NFL when Brady leaves. I can't see rooting for a sport that's administered by people who want certain teams to win. I might as well be watching wrestling.

It will take a lot more than this to destroy my Pats Fanaticism..
 
If that is what they are trying to do, man they are failing epically. Watching them continually screw that up is awesome enjoyment in and of itself.

The more they fail, the more we win......

It will change, they will wake up, the Tagliabue and Rozelle ways of a commissioner protecting the shield not tarnishing it, will return , hopefully much sooner rather than later - but it will change.

I hope you're right, though it wouldn't surprise to see this scumbag still profiteering well into the 2020s.
 
I'm still leaning toward dumping the NFL when Brady leaves. I can't see rooting for a sport that's administered by people who want certain teams to win. I might as well be watching wrestling.
I don't see myself "dumping the NFL" but I can honestly say I have been gradually watching less and less NFL football (and more and more college football) over the past several years. It wasn't an angry "I hate the NFL and I'm boycotting it!" type of thing. It has just been a gradual lessening of interest in the comings and goings of this horrendously run organization.
 
If that is what they are trying to do, man they are failing epically. Watching them continually screw that up is awesome enjoyment in and of itself.

The more they fail, the more we win......

It will change, they will wake up, the Tagliabue and Rozelle ways of a commissioner protecting the shield not tarnishing it, will return , hopefully much sooner rather than later - but it will change.

We've seen a rule invoked ONCE in the NYFL against the Pats that gave the Jets a 2nd winning try at a FG. We've seen altering of footballs during a game and public statements by Aaron Rogers about sneaking footballs altered to above allowed psi ignored. Then we have the NYFL coming down on the Pats & Brady like a ton of bricks.

With Kraft's subsequent epic fold to join the 31 can you tell me you do NOT expect the league to come up with yet another ****amamie scheme to derail the Pats this season? It's not like we've won the SB 10 years running. Odds are something strange happens this season and we know that Bob Kraft will do nothing.

Saying it will change is an act of baseless faith.
 
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