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Normally I'm so liberal that Bernie Sanders once called me a commie and told me to **** off to Cuba, but Jack Tatum brings out my inner conservative.
 
uh...yeah...sorta noticed.;)
 
RIP Ken Stabler.. hated the Raiders, but Stabler brought swagger to the field.

OTOH always interesting to see the justified vitriol for Jack Tatum, but the failure to immortalize or at least remember Darryl Stingley by the Patriots is obvious.. he gave all.
 
The hatred I had for Stabler and the Raiders in the mid-70s makes my current feelings for the Jets look like a love-fest.
 
The Raiders announced the passing of Ken Stabler from complications stemming from Colon Cancer. I remember him in the 70's n that infamous playoff game against the Pats. Always "hated" the Raiders but always respected the QB play of Stabler. RIP


I've gotten over the Sugar Bear Hamilton RTP call so me, I would not rip the guy.
Condolences to his family.
Lost some friends to colon cancer. Better ways to go.
 
Condolences to his family. Lost some friends to colon cancer. Better ways to go.

I hope you've used thse experiencee to get your other friends over 50 to get a colonoscopy. Early detection is key. Colon cancer is one of the more survivable cancers if detected in the early stages. My wife lost her father to colon cancer. Because of this family history, she regularly gets colonoscopy screens. The doctors have removed several "pre-cancerous" polyps. Polyps that they say would have developed into full-blown colon cancer if they hadn't removed them. It bears repeating - early detection is key to avoiding and surviving this nasty disease.
 
I hope you've used thse experiencee to get your other friends over 50 to get a colonoscopy. Early detection is key. Colon cancer is one of the more survivable cancers if detected in the early stages. My wife lost her father to colon cancer. Because of this family history, she regularly gets colonoscopy screens. The doctors have removed several "pre-cancerous" polyps. Polyps that they say would have developed into full-blown colon cancer if they hadn't removed them. It bears repeating - early detection is key to avoiding and surviving this nasty disease.

[OT ALERT: This comment is way OT for those of you not directly concerned with colon cancer in your family and you should just skip it.]

Yeah, I was amazed to read that he was diagnosed with Stage IV Colon Cancer in February. That means he either wasn't getting tested regularly if he was "at risk" or he had a bad doctor screening him. Everyone should get screened when they turn 40 and then, if they are not at risk, every ten years thereafter.

Like your wife, I have a family history and actually get screened every three years. When I asked my GI doctor how often I should be screened, he answered, "Well, it is suggested that people with your profile get screened every five years." Reading between the lines, I asked him, "OK, but, if you had my profile, how often would you get screened?" He replied, "Every three years." I said, "See ya in three years." I've been doing that for over 20 years now and every time I go, at least one polyp of the type that has a probability of becoming cancerous is removed.

Three years allows for the possibility that even the best doctors can miss a polyp that is just emerging or somehow hidden in a fold of the colon. Also, if you look closely at the statistical data and the standard deviation around the time it takes for a polyp to become cancerous, every three years protects you at the third or fourth standard deviation, or over 99.99% of the time. Unfortunately for those of us with this diagnosis, the best GI docs (and, fortunately, mine is among them) acknowledge that they don't fully understand what makes polyps become cancerous and are just now amassing the data that is allowing them to evolve their understanding. So, there is a randomness here that even regular screening can not obviate; we just have to live with it.

This is one of the many areas where Genomics will benefit my kids when they are in their 30's and 40's. By that time, medical science will be at a "Star Trek" point that will allow doctors to develop treatments specific to each individual tumor. At that point, the science behind Dr. McCoy's Tricorder will no longer be the stuff of science fiction.
 
The hatred I had for Stabler and the Raiders in the mid-70s makes my current feelings for the Jets look like a love-fest.

I agree 100%. The Jets are perennial pretenders while Kenny and the Raiders were a force. I hated/feared them with a passion I just can't quite match for the Jests.
 
Agreed. Who wants to rest peacefully for eternity? I'd rather be doing things in the afterlife.

I want to start my Afterlife the way Seth Rogan, Craig Robinson et al started theirs in This Is The End.
 
We older Pats fans remember the Sugar Bear phantom roughing the passer call against Stabler and Oakland. To Stabler's credit, I remember reading a story shortly after the game in which he stated he didn't think the minimal contact warranted a penalty flag. I never held it against him as he didn't try to "sell" the play to Ben Dreith. I wonder if Dreith would have called it a penalty if it was played in Foxboro. The NFL knew the call was such BS, I don't believe they ever let Dreith ref a Pats game again. If any of you have a tape or DVD of that game, notice how many penalties went uncalled against Oakland. Almost every play on defense, our linemen were tucking their jerseys back in after being held by Upshaw, Shell, and the rest of the offensive linemen. Of course, the worst non-call in that game was the blatant interference by LB Phil Villipiano against TE Russ Francis late in the game when the Pats were trying to run the clock out or kick a FG to go up by 7. An official was five yards away watching Villipiano pull Francis' arms down from behind well before Grogan's pass got to him. As blatant an interference as I've ever seen. This would have given the Pats a first down and seriously allowed the Pats to burn clock and kick a chip shot FG. Don't forget, the Patriots gave the Raiders their only loss that year, blowing them out 48-17 at Foxboro. I'm firmly convinced the Patriots would have won the SB that year.
 
Ghost to the Post broke my heart in the Raiders Colts playoff game on Christmas eve Overtime. Stabler was one hell of a QB.. RIP
 
My Dad got Colon Cancer and ha a god bit of his colon removed. He survived another year. Get tested if you are over 40. It's painless, takes about a day of prep (at home) and test is about an hour.
 
At least Snake admitted back in the day that it should not have been roughing the passer.

Dude lived and played hard. Heck of a QB who doesn't get the respect that he probably should. From someone who loathed the Raiders.... RIP
 
We older Pats fans remember the Sugar Bear phantom roughing the passer call against Stabler and Oakland. To Stabler's credit, I remember reading a story shortly after the game in which he stated he didn't think the minimal contact warranted a penalty flag. I never held it against him as he didn't try to "sell" the play to Ben Dreith. I wonder if Dreith would have called it a penalty if it was played in Foxboro. The NFL knew the call was such BS, I don't believe they ever let Dreith ref a Pats game again. If any of you have a tape or DVD of that game, notice how many penalties went uncalled against Oakland. Almost every play on defense, our linemen were tucking their jerseys back in after being held by Upshaw, Shell, and the rest of the offensive linemen. Of course, the worst non-call in that game was the blatant interference by LB Phil Villipiano against TE Russ Francis late in the game when the Pats were trying to run the clock out or kick a FG to go up by 7. An official was five yards away watching Villipiano pull Francis' arms down from behind well before Grogan's pass got to him. As blatant an interference as I've ever seen. This would have given the Pats a first down and seriously allowed the Pats to burn clock and kick a chip shot FG. Don't forget, the Patriots gave the Raiders their only loss that year, blowing them out 48-17 at Foxboro. I'm firmly convinced the Patriots would have won the SB that year.
Agree. That 76 team was the best team we had until 03 or 04.
 
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And R.I.P., Kenny. He should be in the HOF, IMO.

Only player on the All Decade Team of the 1970's not in the HoF. Won 100 games nearly as fast as Tom Brady....on my short list of QBs I'd want in the last two minutes. Maybe the knock is he was not as good in Houston and off field stuff.
 
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My Dad got Colon Cancer and ha a god bit of his colon removed. He survived another year. Get tested if you are over 40. It's painless, takes about a day of prep (at home) and test is about an hour.
Every 5 years and you'll die from something but it won't be colon cancer.
 
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