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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Sally Jenkins has been saying the same thing in the Washington Post and all the newspaper who syndicate her column.I'd love to see this re-run as a guest commentary on some mainstream national outlet if there's any way to submit it
The players have been winning cases where they're clearly guilty, Brady's innocent so I'd say this won't be the case that they finally lose. This may be the case that does permanent damage to Goodells reign of terror.It is a good question by the OP. I'm not convinced this is going to be easy.
At some point judges are going to start getting more particular about the cases they take firm NFL players, it will happen. Also its just a matter time when and NFL player loses.
If Brady takes this to court the concern would be that he ends up serving a suspension late in the season or playoffs. That would be devastating to the team.
I'll have five or six guys here disagree but I just have a bad feeling about all this and if he does two games then what's the big deal. Don't say "exonerate" because in the public eye it is too late for that.
It is a good question by the OP. I'm not convinced this is going to be easy.
At some point judges are going to start getting more particular about the cases they take firm NFL players, it will happen. Also its just a matter time when and NFL player loses.
If Brady takes this to court the concern would be that he ends up serving a suspension late in the season or playoffs. That would be devastating to the team.
I'll have five or six guys here disagree but I just have a bad feeling about all this and if he does two games then what's the big deal. Don't say "exonerate" because in the public eye it is too late for that.
Is Brady's Appeal Against the NFL a Fight He Can Even Win?
It's not getting reduced at all. Goodell wants to make it contingent on Brady waiving his right to sue and that ain't happening.....unless Goodell vacates the entire suspension.........then there is no reason to sue....
Its not totally too late for some measure of exoneration, but that will disappear forever if Brady accept a compromise. I think the NFLPA wants to go all in with this case, which is good news for Brady.
Huh?At some point judges are going to start getting more particular about the cases they take firm NFL players, it will happen. Also its just a matter time when and NFL player loses.
Throw this through the internet typese translator:Huh?
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At some point, judges are going to start getting more particular about the cases they takefirmfrom NFL players, it will happen. Also its just a matter timewhen anduntil an NFL player loses his case during the Federal appeal process.
Sure, it can be in the interpretation of the contract. For instance, the CBA says the players will "reasonably cooperate" in the investigation. At no point is it specific to turning over personal cell phones. A player could argue that the answered all questions and since they had the other parties cell phones, they knew of any and all text communications and with the history of leaks from the NFL, he had a reasonable fear that personal non relevant information of a confidential nature would leak in to the public domain.....Not sure if a Federal Court can overrule a union contract agreed to by both sides.. but there seems to be so many constitutional violations in this process, maybe they can.. stay tuned.
Felger and Mazz believe Brady's phone contained incriminating communication with BB.Brady will also need exoneration as well... the crux seems to be that he did not turn over his cellphone, but the question I pose is why did he need to do that if they had the cellphones of Jeremski and McNally??? They did not need Bradys cell. Was the NFL seeking ammo for TMZ???
Roger will have to save face, as he spent a lot of cash on this whitewash and subsequent legal proceedings.. so I do not see this happening. OTOH Roger probably fears Federal Court and due process issues which are obviously violated here..
Not sure if a Federal Court can overrule a union contract agreed to by both sides.. but there seems to be so many constitutional violations in this process, maybe they can.. stay tuned.
Felger and Mazz believe Brady's phone contained incriminating communication with BB.
Sure, it can be in the interpretation of the contract. For instance, the CBA says the players will "reasonably cooperate" in the investigation. At no point is it specific to turning over personal cell phones. A player could argue that the answered all questions and since they had the other parties cell phones, they knew of any and all text communications and with the history of leaks from the NFL, he had a reasonable fear that personal non relevant information of a confidential nature would leak in to the public domain.....
A good reading of the law of the shop and some of the hurdles Brady faces if it goes to court were written in Judge Doty's decision in the Peterson case..detailing general labor law.Ppl go on and on about the cba but they forget there's a to of labor law baked into that which isn't explicitly spelled out -- the language in the cba doesn't override any of this more general labor law
From Doty's ruling: "Henderson simply disregarded the law of the shop and in doing so failed to meet his duty under the CBA." Henderson refers to the NFL arbitrator. Brady and the NFLPA will argue that the Favre $50K fine for non-cooperation and the warning given to teams that had warmed up balls in cold weather all constituted precedent that make up law of the shop.A good reading of the law of the shop and some of the hurdles Brady faces if it goes to court were written in Judge Doty's decision in the Peterson case..detailing general labor law.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/257166733/Doty-Peterson-Ruling
Nothing for me to get over.It's a forum not a memo, get over it