Volin's Sunday Football Column

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

Volin is now writing headlines for Associated Press stories, apparently:

LOL...

aquaman!

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By land or by sea!

rochrist said:

Yeah, speaking of guys who other media people hate, Minihane seems to -really- get up people's backsides.

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Ro, I don't know if you ever heard Minihane before he became a regular, but when he was a part-timer, he was fabulous, in my opinion. He was quirky like now, but he had the ability to laugh at himself, he wasn't a contrarian to any great degree and he was entertaining and informative. He'd be on some Saturday afternoons with Dale Arnold after Dale had lost his full-time gig, and they were great together. Now, he's become this self absorbed, confrontational jackass.

james87654 said:

i wish people werent so hard on him.....he is getting better

he is my 2nd cousin.......my grandfather and his grandmother are siblings

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This doesn't even slightly surprise me. Makes a lot of sense, actually.

PatsDeb said:

Dear Ian - maybe you should send this link to Ben Volin:

http://thornography.weei.com/

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For reference that video has and always will be on boredfilmgrads.com. Screw YouTube

Ian said:

I read all of the Sunday columns and I usually enjoy his as well because there tends to be a few little bits of information that are interesting.

I've gone back and forth with him a few times over email and he's been a great guy. But I was kind of surprised to see this bit this morning:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...quarterback/ihhIAb6oJJdUrFS8V8w7uJ/story.html



I think the opinions have more to do with the fact the home fans don't believe Brady did enough (or anything) to deserve the suspension, and that the science isn't definitive enough to prove one way or the other that there was any wrongdoing. So I don't think today's attempt to give fans "a reality check" is going to accomplish anything.

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We all know that Volin got mud on his face with bad reporting on the "Kraft Foundation"

It appears that instead of taking his mistake like a man, he's now gone out of his way to find someone who will take a swipe at the AEI Report

Even here Volin has been forced to twist his "expert's" findings to make it sound like the AEI conclusions are in doubt when even his own "debunker" won't support the findings of Wells/Exponent and in fact affirms that AEI's conclusions - if not their methodology - are correct.

But if Volin was trying to save face and credibility with this report, it's a FAIL of epic proportions

I'd have given him a pass if he simply accepted his mistake and pledged to learn from it - but Volin appears to be taking an approach in which he now thinks he needs to find the Patriots culpable if he's to maintain his credibility

In showing himself as a biased, self-serving reporter he's done exactly the opposite

james87654 said:

i wish people werent so hard on him.....he is getting better

he is my 2nd cousin.......my grandfather and his grandmother are siblings

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My deepest sympathy.

Guys, it's not swipe at AEI report. The statistician is doing precisely what is supposed to be done in a peer review. He points out where and why he feels that AEI should have been able to replicate the Wells #s. It's not a refutation of conclusions. It would be great to read a response from AEI but I doubt it may happen as their report was a spare time hobby, not a paid for product. We'll see.

PatsWickedPissah said:

Guys, it's not swipe at AEI report. The statistician is doing precisely what is supposed to be done in a peer review. He points out where and why he feels that AEI should have been able to replicate the Wells #s. It's not a refutation of conclusions. It would be great to read a response from AEI but I doubt it may happen as their report was a spare time hobby, not a paid for product. We'll see.

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I agree 100%. Nothing at all wrong and we don't know if AEI even wrote back and what they said. I would love to hear from this fellow and have no problem with him at all. It is what his email is being used for by others which is the problem.

robertweathers said:

Kevin Mannix and Joe Fitzgerald used to piss people off. But not like Volin.

Borges started to become a real jerk in the early 90s but not like Volin.

Willie McDonough pissed off Ray Clayborn. If that had happened in 2015 hell would have exploded.

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Volin is a poor journalist, and nothing special as a writer. Most of his sources are what people said on ESPN. or ideas he picked up here. And if Joker hates him, that's good enough for me.

Mannix and Fitzgerald were good writers and had some great sources for information. They were annoying, but always worth reading.

Borges is a whole other kettle of rotting fish. He hates the fans, and he hates the people he covers. His bitterness oozes through his columns and usually makes the pages of the Herald stick together.

goheels22002 said:

Volin is a poor journalist, and nothing special as a writer. Most of his sources are what people said on ESPN. or ideas he picked up here. And if Joker hates him, that's good enough for me.

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I agree. I usually go along with Joker's assessments 90% of the time.

goheels22002 said:

Mannix and Fitzgerald were good writers and had some great sources for information. They were annoying, but always worth reading.

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I was ok with Fitzy. I hated Mannix but yes- he is at least credible whilst Trollin' is not.

goheels22002 said:

Borges is a whole other kettle of rotting fish. He hates the fans, and he hates the people he covers. His bitterness oozes through his columns and usually makes the pages of the Herald stick together.

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I truly believe that Borges hit a pothole in life and just became this entitled, bitter, angry person that lost a passion for his profession. I remember in the 80s and reading his "Boxing Notes" in the Sunday Globe sports section. I was really into boxing (Hagler, Paz-manian Devil were the local heros) and I lived for him column. What a shame.

Volin was, is, and always will be an idiot. What's sad is I suspect he'll be on the blasted twitter feed long after I'm done as a poster here. As long as the surrounding media that he's whining about support him, this kind of idiocy will continue. As long as there's clicks, conversations, etc. it just increases his job security every day. He's every bit as bad at what he does as Goodell is an NFL commissioner. Both have permanently tarnished my enjoyment of the league to an absolutely unacceptable point. Let's throw Kraft in there too- haven't ranted about that in a week.

They're all bums. Sad part is Volin isn't even the king of them.

RobAllan said:

Volin was, is, and always will be an idiot. What's sad is I suspect he'll be on the blasted twitter feed long after I'm done as a poster here. As long as the surrounding media that he's whining about support him, this kind of idiocy will continue. As long as there's clicks, conversations, etc. it just increases his job security every day. He's every bit as bad at what he does as Goodell is an NFL commissioner. Both have permanently tarnished my enjoyment of the league to an absolutely unacceptable point. Let's throw Kraft in there too- haven't ranted about that in a week.

They're all bums. Sad part is Volin isn't even the king of them.

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Our hope is that Volin becomes persona non grata with the Pats like Tomashole and is useless as a beat writer for the globe. Then they can put him on the soccer beat and he will be never heard of again.

FUA. Interesting initials.

robertweathers said:

I agree. I usually go along with Joker's assessments 90% of the time.



I was ok with Fitzy. I hated Mannix but yes- he is at least credible whilst Trollin' is not.



I truly believe that Borges hit a pothole in life and just became this entitled, bitter, angry person that lost a passion for his profession. I remember in the 80s and reading his "Boxing Notes" in the Sunday Globe sports section. I was really into boxing (Hagler, Paz-manian Devil were the local heros) and I lived for him column. What a shame.

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I agree. I can't read his stuff or look at his **** on TV or listen to him on the radio. But, to give the devil his due, there was a time when he could really write well. He sucks.

and he is pretty harsh on pats fans. When someone tweeted that his tweet was a clickbait to a soft article

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolin Jun 28
@Dante_Carnevale pretty sure I delivered exactly what I tweeted, but whatever. Attack the messenger like a typical Pats fan

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Dr Pain said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/aeis-debunking-reportedly-gets-debunked/

Now Florio is reporting on dumb Ben's claims. Please let Florio know

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Better yet, remember this.

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Perhaps that’s why DeSarno added, “I still don’t place any faith in [Wells’s] conclusions.”

I continue to place no faith in the conclusions, either, for one very important reason. During the 95-year history of the NFL, the question of whether air pressure inside a football changes during game conditions never registered as even a faint blip on the league’s radar screen. Officials inflated the footballs before kickoff and then they played the games, oblivious to the fact that footballs at the high end of the 12.5-to-13.5 range on a warm day would quickly rise above the limit, and to the fact that footballs at the low end on a cold day would quickly shrink below it.

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Then, suddenly, the NFL gave the topic of air pressure an extreme degree of importance, treating any deviation below the minimum not as the result of atmospheric conditions but as presumptive proof that someone was cheating.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/aeis-debunking-reportedly-gets-debunked/

Never mind guages and ideal gas, this thing is, and always was, horse s**t. The VP of officiating comments on the vikings game where they are shown warming up footballs and there are zero charges or punishment.

If it wasn't for this, the pats would have been punished severely for having the wrong length shoelaces or something else.

SVN said:

and he is pretty harsh on pats fans. When someone tweeted that his tweet was a clickbait to a soft article

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Attack the messenger like a typical Pats fan

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That's pretty ridiculous. What fans does he write for?

juny said:

don't read his columns, but from what i have seen from his twitter feed (on the right side of this page), he takes jabs at every chance he can get at the pats. as i have seen here, ben trollin, is a more suitable name for him.

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How do you turn on the tweeter feed? I don't have it on the right side of my page>

RayClay said:

That's pretty ridiculous. What fans does he write for?

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Write for or troll for?

RayClay said:

That's pretty ridiculous. What fans does he write for?

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Mommy and Daddy.

raduray said:

How do you turn on the tweeter feed? I don't have it on the right side of my page>

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Shows up on a decent sized desktop screen, won't show up on laptop or mobile