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Do we really want our "elected officials" involved? Remember when Senator Specter tried to stick his nose into Spygate? We just want justice.

That was sour grapes. This isn't about keep the Pats out of the Super Bowl. They deliberately didn't clear up bad information that caused this entire event to blossom into what it has. That is the major difference in the case.
 
Lol no I'm just working on the facebook page on my laptop which i usually don't do. 99 percent of the time I use my iPad. I have made and deleted 3 pages so far and think this one might be finally right

Just teasing you :p

My understanding of your post was that you felt #TheBigLie could work out as a social media tool. But you wanted other people's input first, and maybe another hashtag idea....did I read that right?
 
Just teasing you :p

My understanding of your post was that you felt #TheBigLie could work out as a social media tool. But you wanted other people's input first, and maybe another hashtag idea....did I read that right?

Sure it would be fine. Just have to make sure like Pain says it at least currently dovetails into the Change.org petition. Adding those as photos to the facebook page would be fine to start. Can you see the page btw?
 
Sure it would be fine. Just have to make sure like Pain says it at least currently dovetails into the Change.org petition. Adding those as photos to the facebook page would be fine to start. Can you see the page btw?

Sorry, I can't access the page.

There's a feature on Change.org that allows me to send out email updates to the signees. Once we get the facebook page up and running, I'll send them a notice and encourage them to "like" the page.

I'll also attach link on the petition page, that will re-direct people to the FB page, and include a bit more about the #TheBigLie hashtag promotion.
 
Sorry, I can't access the page.

There's a feature on Change.org that allows me to send out email updates to the signees. Once we get the facebook page up and running, I'll send them a notice and encourage them to "like" the page.

I'll also attach link on the petition page, that will re-direct people to the FB page, and include a bit more about the #TheBigLie hashtag promotion.


hmmm..probably because its not published. hold on I'll publish it and maybe then you can see it..

Edit: Try it now. Also i wouldn't link until we are all in agreement of the page
 
Here's another hashtag promotion we could try: #BiggerThanFootballs

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hmmm..probably because its not published. hold on I'll publish it and maybe then you can see it..

Edit: Try it now. Also i wouldn't link until we are all in agreement of the page

It works now. Nice job!

The first line on the opening post should start with something like: WHY ARE WE SEEKING ACCOUNTABILITY? in capitalized letters
 
@ViperGTS Is there are way to assign multiple authors to manage the FB page?
 
I need your email addy. PM it to me
 
My $0.02: I really like #TheBigLie. I don't know if you could get it trending, but its bold and intriguing. I think it works better than anything with Pats in the name, because as soon as something like #ThePatsGotScrewed pops up you lose the haters. #TheBigLie sounds interesting.
 
When would McNally be left alone in the officials locker room? Where are the officials? trying to fit into a little car to drive into the stadium.

If I recall the Wells report correctly, he ordinarily was. The officials left the locker room to do stuff, while he stayed there and watched over the place.
 
Or why did the Patriots suspend Jas and McNally if they did nothing wrong?
Their texts show plenty of things they did wrong, even if that doesn't include illegally deflating footballs.
 
If I recall the Wells report correctly, he ordinarily was. The officials left the locker room to do stuff, while he stayed there and watched over the place.

That's discouraging.
 
That's discouraging.

It's why the point about road games is so important. The original source of the accusation seems to have been Colts opining about intercepted balls in Indianapolis.
 
It's why the point about road games is so important. The original source of the accusation seems to have been Colts opining about intercepted balls in Indianapolis.

Absolutely true. Didn't they also claim that the ball in Indy was at like 10.5 PSI? Since it was in a dome that would have been where it had started, meaning if it was deflated it would have been deflected down to that level. But in the ACFCG the balls, at minimum, were 12.0 PSI at the start of the game and decreased due to the weather. So why would the pre-game deflating be done at vastly different levels?
 
1.) Why, when the PSI of the Patriots footballs was known at halftime, did the NFL choose to hide that through the Super Bowl and only released the info AFTER the Wells Report had done it's best to cherry pick information to make the Patriots look guilty?

2.) Why, when false information was being leaked by NFL Headquarter sources, did the NFL choose NOT to IMMEDIATELY correct (or simply state it was false) the information as they so often do (and did when info leaked that Brady's hearing would be limited to four hours)

3.) Why, did the OFFICIAL NFL statement on the PSI of the footballs, AFFIRM this knowingly false information in a letter to the Patriots issued by NFL Senior VP David Gardi to the Patriots on 1/19, prior to Brady's press conference, stating that NONE of the footballs were properly inflated and one was even 2 lbs low - when the NFL KNEW that was not true.

4.) Why did Ted Wells and the NFL publicly affirm that the NFL itself would be included in the investigation, including an investigation to the sources of misinformation to the media and to the Patriots, as well as a look into their standard operating procedure relevant to football security, not to mention the road game, coincidentally against the Jets yet again, where footballs were reportedly inflated to a whopping 16 psi- and then avoided each and every one of those areas which could only make the NFL appear culpable?

5.) Why did and does the NFL (and the media) continue to decline to document football preparation protocols for EVERY NFL team, much in the same way that the NY Times did with the Giants in 2013. Note that the Skiba Brothers openly state that they would NEVER let the footballs out of their sight (which presumably includes taking them to the Men's room with them on Game Day) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/s...ings-footballs-are-months-in-making.html?_r=0

6.) Why, when the NFL and Ted Wells happily accept all of Walt Anderson's "best recollections" regarding his actions on that day, does Ted Wells and the NFL suddenly conveniently assume that his "best recollection" is wrong when Anderson, a 25 year NFL veteran official, says his best recollection is that he used a gauge with a Wilson logo on it?

6a.) Why, when NFL officials openly state they lacked the time to simply stick a needle gauge in all 12 Colts footballs during ALL of halftime, do they persist in promoting the belief that McNally, an individual who has compatriots on EVERY NFL team, was able to PERFECTLY DEFLATE 12 footballs in one minute 40 seconds?​

7.) Why did New York native and NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino LIE about being told before the game about the deflation allegation and sting operation which followed? (Blandino's statements conflict with the statements of Grigson, Harbaugh and Pagano (all of whom have their own close ties) and suggest at the very least a scheme to disrupt Brady's performance in the AFC Championship game, or at worse a scheme to libel and slander the Patriots in general

8.) Why did former Jet President and current NFL VP of Game Operations Mike Kensil, who was jilted by Belichick when he resigned as HC of the NYJs, and reportedly has always held a grudge against the Patriots, state to Patriots personnel that they were “in big f’ing trouble” because “we weighed the footballs” when the PSI of the footballs indicated there was no tampering?

8a.) What role did Kensil play in crafting the 2006 "sideline camera" rule which was implemented shortly after he left the Jets and joined the NFL, and what role did Kensil play in enforcing that rule in a game, coincidentally against the Jets, and what role did Kensil play in the NFL's (over)reaction to the violation of this new rule?​

9.) Why, once it had been established that no unusual deflation of the footballs occurred, was Brady's personal emails and cell phone data required by investigators - and why do they PERSIST on requiring that information now that numerous scientific analyses affirm that no unusual deflation took place, severely penalizing Brady and the Patriots well beyond previously established criteria that would be relevant ONLY if an infraction actually occurred?

10.) Why did the Wells Report conveniently ignore the statements, testimony and evidence presented to them, as outlined in the "Wells Report in Context" which, when combined with all the above information, prove that not only was it "more probable than not" that there was no deflation, but that it was "more probable than not" that there was a conspiracy at the highest levels of the NFL Headquarters to frame the Patriots?

Those are just the first 10 off the top of my head.

All of them paint a picture that I believe provides both direct and circumstantial evidence that special interests within the NFL headquarters have an anti-Patriots agenda that have altered or attempted to alter game outcomes (including the 2007 Super Bowl, as well as the 2014 AFC Championship) and undermine the integrity of the game.

Goodell is either party to that, or is ignorant of the activities of those who work for him. Either way the current state of Goodell's NFL presents a major crisis to the integrity of the game and strikes me as grounds to have Goodell and most if not all of his underlings, fired.
 
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If you want to equate all this to domestic abuse in which people are physically injured, that's problematic.

Now, a case can be made that, based on the magnitude of the punishments, the NFL has made the comparison. Fine. Refer to that if you want. But I wouldn't make the case in your own name.
 
Why haven't Jaz and McNally sold their story to TMZ?
 
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