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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.You're right on the PR angle. And tom didn;t help himself with the initial press conference when he answered the did you cheat question with an "I don't think so" answer." But I understand why that was. It's because the NEP only had the false PSI info in it's possession. They only had the Mortensen 10.1psi and 10 of 11 2 psi under the limit numbers from the NFL. Even they were questioning themselves.Brady and his camp haven't done much to dispel the solidified public opinion that he is guilty. perhaps they are remaining silent to not antagonize Goodell until after his ruling.
by remaining silent, and nit picking the legal-eses of the case, Brady is not winning hearts and minds.
how about
"i didn't do it, i don't know what they are talking about"
"i didn't give them my phone because they had all my texts. would you give them your phone?"
"our guys tell me they didn't do anything"
the lack of straight out denials by anyone involved in the case makes this whole situation stink.
and i will add that Kraft never made the straight out denial either.FFS. he said
"i believe tom"
"the amount of money spent on this is ridiculous"
"there is no clear evidence etc"
even kraft never said -- we didn't do it
I have been wanting to say this the entire week, but I wasn't sure where to post it, so I started a new thread to get it out. If a mod wants to move it to a more appropriate thread, feel free. But we are kind of in our POV is is obviously biased, even if our evidence is sound.
Early in the week I happened to catch a new show on the USA network called Mr Robot. It's about a socially damaged young brilliant hacker, who is a tech geek by day, and by night hacks bad people land makes them pay. It is actually a very good show with a interesting premise and I recommend it highly. But that's not why I'm posting.
In the opening set up the kid is narrating his view on the world. It's about how the big corporations really control things.....and control us, the one percent of the one percenters. How nothing is what we perceive it to be. About how our heroes are often deceivers, Then they flash to pictures of Lance Armstrong, Bill Cosby...... and TOM BRADY.
So despite a complete lack of evidence, based on premise that 1 or 2 PSI of a football actually IS cheating,, an artfully orchestrated smear campaign, and the suspension of belief in science, fairness, and justice, Tom Brady is now firmly ensconced in pantheon of cheaters and liars. He has now become an epitome of deception and cheating, so much so, he can be used on TV as a prime example.
I don't know. Maybe the writer is a Jet fan. But the point is, if Tom even contemplates a future where the first thing anyone associates with him isn't "deflategate cheater", then he HAS be COMPLETELY cleared of this slander, if not by the league, then the courts. He CANNOT accept anything less. A 1 game concession might seem in the short run the best solution, but THAT won't take that picture off the TV show. ( BTW - nwhen the day comes that he IS finally exonerated, I will write a letter to that show demanding they cut the reference, and make a public apology to Tom.)
I'm actually surprised his father's head hasn't exploded by this league orchestrated smear campaign. (included the "league source" who stated the other day that Tom's responses weren't convincing) You had to be expecting that one.
Any choice other than to fight to the end on this is to admit to cheating. One game is an admission of cheating. An admission of cheating forever taints his legacy and that of this entire Superbowl run and all of the players who were part of it.
Innocence isn't an option, it's simply to what degree of guilt he thinks he can get away with when it comes to punishing Brady yet it's allowed to continue.
I remember the report that came out about him being in the bathroom and making fun of the league's "person of interest" when they found out that person was in there for 90 seconds. Now that's what's convicting him...unreal.And they've moved the goal posts multiple times to achieve that bare minimum. When the report was completely demolished by academics with a hell of a lot more credibility than those who made up the report, the text messages became the evidence. Now that the texts have been shown to be clearly out of context and completely unreliable for court we are basically stuck with the whole 'refusing to comply' stuff. The media will continue to use all of that no matter without worry about credibility. We're going to hear 'I think he did it' as the reason people think he did it. Nothing more. They think he did it. All that matters.
It's not even about "one person" - it's that the percentage of our fan base that would participate isn't enough to hurt the league without also hurting the club, and the amount of damage that would be inflicted wouldn't be enough. Not to mention it would drop off immediately once Brady came back and people got over it. It's irritating but I think it's going to ultimately come down to the final ruling before being able to potentially put something together.@Ian, We should have all boycotted the NFL after the whole Ray Rice incident. The way they handled it proved how morally corrupt they are. I wanted to boycott the NFL but like you said if it's just one person it doesn't really do anything. I will stop watching the NFL after Brady and Belichick retires though.
But "it is what it is" and as much as I'd love to coordinate boycotts, etc., and I've explored a few different strategies, I don't feel it's realistic because you can't hurt a billion dollar behemoth unless it's a league-wide movement. Here's the problem, the only people who would likely get hurt is the club itself, which doesn't solve anything and obviously wouldn't be the intent. When you look at the percentage of people who would partake vs the dollar amount that would we could affect, we'd really need to coordinate a bigger effort in cooperation with other clubs to pull it off and obviously the 31 other clubs aren't on Brady's side. So it's not a battle that I think would have a reasonable outcome, although that hasn't stopped me from exploring other options because we obviously have a medium to help make something happen..
I know Brady's camp doesn't want to publicly show their hand, especially before an official ruling on the appeal has been made, but I wish they would throw us fans a bone. Even just a post on Brady facebook saying how he immensely appreciates all the support he's receiving and he promises to do whatever he possibly can to prove his innocence. Brady had a friend post something candid weekly on his facebook all season, why not now?
I know, I feel the same way.
However, I think that might not be the smartest thing to do if they are planning to challenge this in court. Think about the old adage "watch what I do, not what I say". Brady is saying NOTHING. Jastremski and MacNally were obviously interviewed by Patriot lawyers because they talk about it in the Wells Report Context. But, publically, they've said NOTHING. The Patriots are saying NOTHING.
That's just what a lawyer would want them to do.
What are they doing? What do they really think? Well, Belichick says nothing, but Linda Holliday (BB's GF) has Tom Brady as her Twitter GIF. The Patriots have not only not taken down the Wells Report Context, they've continued to update it.
The league must be watching, too. They must know this won't go away after the decision. They must know they are going to be called to answer for why they leaked and failed to correct false information. They must know they are going to have to answer why Vincent and Kensil were at the AFC championship trying to catch the Patriots red handed. They must know any internal emails plus those between them and Wells' firm are going to be subject to discovery. And, they must know if a case if filed in Federal Court in Massachusetts there will be public pressure to not just reject it out of hand. And, the NFL must know that even if they win, the public loves to take down Goliath. Once the Patriots are dealt with, Goodell and the corrupt NFL offices are the new Goliath.
Nobody's talking....but a lot of things are happening. I don't expect this to go away anytime soon.
About how our heroes are often deceivers, Then they flash to pictures of Lance Armstrong, Bill Cosby...... and TOM BRADY.
I know Brady's camp doesn't want to publicly show their hand, especially before an official ruling on the appeal has been made, but I wish they would throw us fans a bone. Even just a post on Brady facebook saying how he immensely appreciates all the support he's receiving and he promises to do whatever he possibly can to prove his innocence. Brady had a friend post something candid weekly on his facebook all season, why not now?