Mike Florio: Goodell Underling(s) Were Out to Get the Patriots

1960Pats said:

I think I'd like to be a lawyer representing the two ball attendants.

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I bet you'd like to give two ball attendants your complete attention.

We are hopefully watching Goodell-gate start to unfold

But mainly this is Florio in self-promotion though admittedly he was one to first latch on to the glaring omissions of fact and science in the Wells Report

What interests me, is that IF the media does actually do their job and focus on the CLEAR instances of anti-Patriots bias in the League office (I mean NFL Senior VP Dave Gardi actually sent a LETTER to the Patriots with the "11 of 12" BS documenting that the NFL knowingly gave the PATRIOTS false information) one has to wonder what a long hard look at Kensil's role might reveal - not just in this one instance, but in the PAST as well!

Is it a coincidence that the balls were inflated to 16 PSI for a Jets home game?

Is it a coincidence that the new sideline taping rule is introduced IMMEDIATELY after Kensil joins the League Office? Is it a coincidence that it was ultimately enforced (in a HUGE over-reaction by Goodell just like in this situation) in a game against the Jets?

The good news is that Florio does offer a degree of cover and flexibility in the media to cover this story - and I'll bet Florio wants to take every high profile interview he can (indeed he'll be marketing himself over this) so let's keep our fingers crossed and see if GoodellGate finally gains the traction it deserves

But once it's established that indeed there is not just bias but sabotage attempts taking place from the League office, Spygate deserves a fresh look with Mike Kensil's role in particular demanding attention

robertweathers said:

If what I heard today is true, Mike Kensil no longer has an office at 345 Park. Hes quiet

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No, he's still there. There was a twitter back and forth about how he was spotted coming out of the building at around 5:45pm during the appeal and someone thought it was odd for him to be there. Breer or Volin or someone answered - - not odd, that's his office location.

shmessy said:

No, he's still there. There was a twitter back and forth about how he was spotted coming out of the building at around 5:45pm during the appeal and someone thought it was odd for him to be there. Breer or Volin or someone answered - - not odd, that's his office location.

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I misspoke. He is still employed by the NFL but his office of several years at 345 is no longer occupied.

With that said they just as easily could have moved in an office reconfig. Dont know.

robertweathers said:

I misspoke. He is still employed by the NFL but his office of several years at 345 is no longer occupied.

With that said they just as easily could have moved in an office reconfig. Dont know.

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RW, the twitter convos were all about that he worked THERE, hence the reason he was exiting that office building on Tuesday at 5:45pm.

shmessy said:

RW, the twitter convos were all about that he worked THERE, hence the reason he was exiting that office building on Tuesday at 5:45pm.

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We are talking about something different. The feeds say he left at 545. I get that. I am saying that he still works for the NFL and was present during the hearing but is not occupying the same office as he had.

What am I wondering? If he was demoted during this mess. I do tend to doubt it though.

Other than Robert Kraft everybody this side of my golden retriever knows this was a setup and that his capitulation still leaves the Patriots with a massive issue in the league office. The next time they're taking a PR hit good old Bobby will get bent right back over.

everlong said:

Other than Robert Kraft everybody this side of my golden retriever knows this was a setup and that his capitulation still leaves the Patriots with a massive issue in the league office. The next time they're taking a PR hit good old Bobby will get bent right back over.

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Absolutely correct about the Patriots and the NFL office. Common sense and the typical course of events would lead one to conclude that most people would look at this fiasco and think that the league screwed this up, the Patriots/Brady took a hosing and things will be better for them from now on. Wrong. The media everywhere, including here, the fans everywhere outside of NE and the general public think what happened was just and deserved. This franchise is f###### for the foreseeable future. I wish that weren't the case, but it is.

Here's another thought. If ...IF as reports indicate, Goodell is willing to cut the suspension but only if Brady waives his right to sue, it seems unethical. Then it becomes a negotiation, not an appeal. The appeal should be, " we looked at the evidence and feel the punishment should stand or be lessened" not " hey we will shorten the punishment but only if you don't sue." That was what Browner agreed to and got a full year reduced to 4 games. If you're Brady and innocent you use that when you go to Federal Court. I do 't it is anywhere in the CBA that the player can be coerced into giving up his rights on appeal.

everlong said:

Other than Robert Kraft everybody this side of my golden retriever knows this was a setup and that his capitulation still leaves the Patriots with a massive issue in the league office. The next time they're taking a PR hit good old Bobby will get bent right back over.

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Golden Retrievers are all-knowing, masters of the universe and invented the concept of the Ideal Gas Law as it makes it easier to grab large balls in their mouths in cold weather.

Lapping dirty dishes in the dishwasher, barking at shadows and being scared of thunder is a ruse.

Full disclosure- I have 2 GRs

Patsfanin Philly said:

Here's another thought. If ...IF as reports indicate, Goodell is willing to cut the suspension but only if Brady waives his right to sue, it seems unethical. Then it becomes a negotiation, not an appeal. The appeal should be, " we looked at the evidence and feel the punishment should stand or be lessened" not " hey we will shorten the punishment but only if you don't sue." That was what Browner agreed to and got a full year reduced to 4 games. If you're Brady and innocent you use that when you go to Federal Court. I do 't it is anywhere in the CBA that the player can be coerced into giving up his rights on appeal.

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Settling out of court is a common occurrence but I agree, this doesn't sit well with me either. They are negotiating on the premise that TB12 is guilty- not innocent.

However the response by TB12 should be, "Ok, I won't sue as long as my suspension is vacated, the commissioner publicly exonerates me and says nothing happened and the team reduces/eliminates the sanctions vs the Patriots. If this is not reasonable, I will see you in court.".

Patsfanin Philly said:

Here's another thought. If ...IF as reports indicate, Goodell is willing to cut the suspension but only if Brady waives his right to sue, it seems unethical. Then it becomes a negotiation, not an appeal. The appeal should be, " we looked at the evidence and feel the punishment should stand or be lessened" not " hey we will shorten the punishment but only if you don't sue." That was what Browner agreed to and got a full year reduced to 4 games. If you're Brady and innocent you use that when you go to Federal Court. I do 't it is anywhere in the CBA that the player can be coerced into giving up his rights on appeal.

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I would go further and call it blackmail.

Keep wondering if this anger will ever go away?

I can't imagine Brady not getting suspended if he texted his junk to a female reporter.

What the consequences would be if the Pats pumped in crowd noise?

Salary cap violations?

Tampering? Right Woody?

Footballs in ovens?

The way this whole investigation/witch hunt went down?

It's all enough to fuel the hatred and give credence to the article.

I hate to take this us against the world mentality but it just seems like it is never going to end. Screw all them jealous ****s. I'm tired of the stupidity of it all and hope with my core that they come back and repeat. Stick it right up their cram holes So to speak.

That's right, every game from opening day when they announce the Patriots it will be preceeded by Super Bowl champions. Suck on that for the rest of the year into February the following year haters.

Greatness at its finest right before your eyes and most are too blind with jealousy to sit back and admire it. GFY and we will talk in another 10 years after it settles in how great Brady and Belichick were and we will compare the dynasties. Hopefully your heads will be clear by then and we may be able to have a relevant conversation.

Patriot Missile said:

Keep wondering if this anger will ever go away?

I can't imagine Brady not getting suspended if he texted his junk to a female reporter.

What the consequences would be if the Pats pumped in crowd noise?

Salary cap violations?

Tampering? Right Woody?

Footballs in ovens?

The way this whole investigation/witch hunt went down?

It's all enough to fuel the hatred and give credence to the article.

I hate to take this us against the world mentality but it just seems like it is never going to end. Screw all them jealous ****s. I'm tired of the stupidity of it all and hope with my core that they come back and repeat. Stick it right up their cram holes So to speak.

That's right, every game from opening day when they announce the Patriots it will be preceeded by Super Bowl champions. Suck on that for the rest of the year into February the following year haters.

Greatness at its finest right before your eyes and most are too blind with jealousy to sit back and admire it. GFY and we will talk in another 10 years after it settles in how great Brady and Belichick were and we will compare the dynasties. Hopefully your heads will be clear by then and we may be able to have a relevant conversation.

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First off, where its Fitzy when we need him with the GFY videos.

And this is what you get when Billionaire owners dont get there way in the past 14 years.

but but we paid the refs to throw the game.....

but but we paid the media to make the Pats look like cheaters

but but we made up an ENTIRE CONTROVERSY with DEFLATEGATE and the pats STILL WON THE GOD DAMN SUPERBOWL


bunch of whiney 3 year olds who need a nap....

Patriot Missile said:

Keep wondering if this anger will ever go away?

I can't imagine Brady not getting suspended if he texted his junk to a female reporter.

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I can't imagine a female reporter complaining about it if such a thing happened.

XLIX said:

I can't imagine a female reporter complaining about it if such a thing happened.

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I can't imagine the fanboys on the board complaining either....

robertweathers said:

We are talking about something different. The feeds say he left at 545. I get that. I am saying that he still works for the NFL and was present during the hearing but is not occupying the same office as he had.

What am I wondering? If he was demoted during this mess. I do tend to doubt it though.

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His office was moved but is in the same building, probably got a promotion, i mean this time he got us for a crime that didn't even HAPPEN at least #CameraHate happened.

Brady2Moss said:

His office was moved but is in the same building, probably got a promotion, i mean this time he got us for a crime that didn't even HAPPEN at least #CameraHate happened.

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The bleeping purulent Rats are miserable failures at anything involving success on a football field, but those bastages have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams at denigrating the Pats accomplishments.

The ex-rodent front office personnel haven't stopped the Pats from winning on the field, but they are succeeding in getting the playing field slanted in their direction with being allowed to tamper with, and steal star players from the Pats, as well as cause the Pats to be stripped of valuable player assets.

What sucks the most is that even as their slimy activities are coming more into focus, we have discovered that our owner will do nothing to stop the treachery and right the wrings the Pats have had to endure.

robertweathers said:

Settling out of court is a common occurrence but I agree, this doesn't sit well with me either. They are negotiating on the premise that TB12 is guilty- not innocent.

However the response by TB12 should be, "Ok, I won't sue as long as my suspension is vacated, the commissioner publicly exonerates me and says nothing happened and the team reduces/eliminates the sanctions vs the Patriots. If this is not reasonable, I will not sue. If this is not, see you in court.".

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This is exactly where I was going to go.

robertweathers said:

Settling out of court is a common occurrence but I agree, this doesn't sit well with me either. They are negotiating on the premise that TB12 is guilty- not innocent.

However the response by TB12 should be, "Ok, I won't sue as long as my suspension is vacated, the commissioner publicly exonerates me and says nothing happened and the team reduces/eliminates the sanctions vs the Patriots. If this is not reasonable, I will not sue. If this is not, see you in court.".

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This doesn't go far enough. The demand also needs to include an investigation of NFL* front office personnel as well as other teams, with compensation coming from other teams involved, as well as sanctions against league officials if wrongdoing is found.

If bias against the Pats is determined to have occurred, then the Rats tampering penalty needs to be revisited and the penalty adjusted, with at least one high pick going from Rats to Pats.