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Props to Joker, he was way way way out in front when it comes to the dynamic of a Jets run league office conspiring against the Patriots. Good call JoeKerr.
 
I don't see any value in retiring numbers........maybe he doesn't want it retired
 
Just heard from Zo that Kensil's office at 345 Park has been relocated?
 
No offense guys, but I didn't start this thread for it to be a discussion of Andre Tippett and retiring numbers. Fine topics, but should have its own thread on that topic.
 
One of the obligations and responsibilities that comes with an executive position in any organization is to protect and leverage the assets. These assets include the management positions in the organization. The responsibility of the executive is to fill those roles with the absolutely best people available, using bojective performance criteria, and pulling from the entire population of potential personnel.

So, the Jets have been a breeding ground for managerial excellence over the past decade, so much so that after an exhaustive, professional search, NFL positions get filled by former Jets employees to a higher than normal extent?

Who woulda' thunk it?

Along those lines Woody Johnson Jets owner was just named Jeb Bush's finance guy. I guess that proves your point! :)
 
Someone needs to photoshop BB into that.

Here you go.

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All of these connections just add to the "circumstantial evidence" that should lead any media source or individuals to conclude that it’s “more probable than not” that Goodell, Kensil, et al at the NFL set up a failed sting operation and have it out for the Patriots

(indeed, Brady's penalty is because he "failed to cooperate with the NFL" - likely by NOT deflating the footballs!)

How do we know this? There’s a LOT of circumstantial evidence.

Not only did the NFL offices leak FALSE information and leave it hanging for MONTHS when they responded to misinformation yesterday IMMEDIATELY…

Add to that the fact that NFL Senior VP David Gardi actually SENT A LETTER with the false information to the Patriots on 1/19 saying that NONE of the footballs were properly inflated and one was even 2 lbs low

Is it any wonder Brady appeared on edge in his press conference, likely wondering WHO on his staff had done that?

Turns out no one had

Then Dean Blandino is caught in a LIE about knowing about the deflation allegation and the sting operation… Not to mention all the lies and admissions by Grigson and others, and the connections between an angered Harbaugh, and his former DC Pagano wanting to set up the Pats or at least throw Brady off kilter at halftime..

Then Kensil, the Jets GM Belichick jilted at the altar, is boasting to the Pats they’re “in big f’ing trouble” because “we weighed the footballs”

Then Wells himself says he’ll investigate the League itself – then refuses to do so and purposefully omits all the above information and more that show the Patriots to be innocent

Yes, there’s TONS of circumstantial – and direct evidence showing that Goodell and the NFL front office personnel have been fabricating this scandal all along…

Or, should I say “more probable than not” that the NFL ran a failed sting and has it out for the Patriots even though no deflation occurred.
 
All of these connections just add to the "circumstantial evidence" that should lead any media source or individuals to conclude that it’s “more probable than not” that Goodell, Kensil, et al at the NFL set up a failed sting operation and have it out for the Patriots

(indeed, Brady's penalty is because he "failed to cooperate with the NFL" - likely by NOT deflating the footballs!)

How do we know this? There’s a LOT of circumstantial evidence..

I'll go to my grave thinking it was a sting and Wells is a friggan weasel of a man when asked the question. By definition, a sting is when a member of law enforcement orchestrates an effort to simulate or observe criminal activity that is taking place in the hope of catching someone engaged in the activity. On Jan 19th, the NFL claims it did not "orchestrate" but observed. Semantics.

Not only did the NFL offices leak FALSE information and leave it hanging for MONTHS when they responded to misinformation yesterday IMMEDIATELY…

Add to that the fact that NFL Senior VP David Gardi actually SENT A LETTER with the false information to the Patriots on 1/19 saying that NONE of the footballs were properly inflated and one was even 2 lbs low

Is it any wonder Brady appeared on edge in his press conference, likely wondering WHO on his staff had done that?

Turns out no one had

I'm not as hard on Brady as others. There were 200+ members of the press in that room from all over the country hammering Brady on everything. He stood there for 50 minutes and answered every single stupid question the best he could. Brady is well spoken and does fine speaking in public but the only person who could have handled that situation with the level of grace and profession-ism is the WH Press Secretary.

Then Dean Blandino is caught in a LIE about knowing about the deflation allegation and the sting operation… Not to mention all the lies and admissions by Grigson and others, and the connections between an angered Harbaugh, and his former DC Pagano wanting to set up the Pats or at least throw Brady off kilter at halftime..

Then Kensil, the Jets GM Belichick jilted at the altar, is boasting to the Pats they’re “in big f’ing trouble” because “we weighed the footballs”

Then Wells himself says he’ll investigate the League itself – then refuses to do so and purposefully omits all the above information and more that show the Patriots to be innocent

Yes, there’s TONS of circumstantial – and direct evidence showing that Goodell and the NFL front office personnel have been fabricating this scandal all along…

Or, should I say “more probable than not” that the NFL ran a failed sting and has it out for the Patriots even though no deflation occurred.

They were under suspicion from get-go based on hearsay and rumors. To reinforce your point, why didn't the NFL have the initial assumption that their officials didn't pump up/measured the balls effectively before assuming the Pats were guilty? Why weren't the Pats notified before the game and say, "look, there are rumors about youz guyz molesting footballs. If you are- stop or be punished.". Is that so hard?

This is my problem with Goody. He is so goddam polarizing. If you are not with him, you are against him. Players, NFLPA,Owners, teams, coaches- even NFL employees. No interest in collaboration or accomodation. Everything is black and white. He is a Sith Lord.
 
Then Kensil, the Jets GM Belichick jilted at the altar, is boasting to the Pats they’re “in big f’ing trouble” because “we weighed the footballs”

This alone shows that the hiring of so many ex-Jet personnel cannot be based on merit. This dude is dumber than a dumpster full of stumps.
 
The sad part is they destroyed the evidence.

Because of the rain they prepped 24 balls for each team, they used 12 in the first half. All they had to do was impound the suspect balls, used the 12 that had been approved and locked in the refs dressing room. After the game measure the balls in question. The balls would have time to dry and return to room temp.

This would proven whether the balls were altered or not. I am guessing the morons were too stupid to understand the gas law.
 
I am guessing the morons were too stupid to understand the gas law.

It's all still so confusing.

You have intelligent people like BB and TB12 say they did not know about IGL until they were told what it is. You also have Brady saying that he "likes" the ball at 12.5 PSI. I can guess that BB and TB12 knew what happens to balls in hot/cold but may not know IGL. TB12 has never said that he knew what IGL is BEFORE this mess. I'd kinda like to know what his answer is. I do think that the 12.5 PSI preference is based on his feel for the ball as opposed to his foresight in allowing atmospheric conditions deflate the ball naturally. He may be manipulating the spirit of the rule, but he is not breaking the rule.

In fairness to Kensil-****, the Colts and the rest of those McJetsLuvin' idiots in the NFL office, I tend to think that they fell into that camp as well. The game temp was 49 deg so I assume they didn't think there would be much atmospheric deflating going on thus allowing them to have confidence in pouncing on poor Jaz and the Pats.

I hate all of this.
 
The sad part is they destroyed the evidence.

Because of the rain they prepped 24 balls for each team, they used 12 in the first half. All they had to do was impound the suspect balls, used the 12 that had been approved and locked in the refs dressing room. After the game measure the balls in question. The balls would have time to dry and return to room temp.

This would proven whether the balls were altered or not. I am guessing the morons were too stupid to understand the gas law.

The thing is, this highlights one of the major, major issues with this story: no one on the field--the refs, the Colts and their equipment manager, the NFL officials--knew about the impact of temperature on air pressure. The reason they pumped the balls 'back up' to 13.0 psi, rather than use the backup balls, is because they felt they had caught the Pats red handed. It's actually quite simple: Anderson measures the footballs at 12.5 before the game starts, the Colts bring one to you before halftime and you read it at 11.5 (on average)...wow, that's low! Then you gauge the rest of the balls at halftime and they're all coming in around 11.0-11.6. That's a slam dunk, they tampered with these balls! Colts balls come in around 12.5, maybe a little lower than before the game but whatever, close enough, and certainly not as low as the Pats balls, they must have cheated! Certainly the backups aren't reliable either, so rather than gauge those they pumped the Patriots balls 'back up' and told the Pats 'you f.cked up'.

Everything stemmed from the refs and NFL officials not knowing about the IGL when they measured those balls at halftime...they caught the Pats red handed! The injurious (and incorrect) Mort leak and misleading (and incorrect) Gardi letter are circumstantial evidence hinting at some bias/corruption, but end of the day this started because a bunch of donkey's didn't have the correct knowledge to properly measure and distinguish between 'legal' and 'illegal' footballs.
 
IMO it is a combination of stupidity and malice by the NFL.
 
It's all still so confusing.

You have intelligent people like BB and TB12 say they did not know about IGL until they were told what it is. You also have Brady saying that he "likes" the ball at 12.5 PSI. I can guess that BB and TB12 knew what happens to balls in hot/cold but may not know IGL. TB12 has never said that he knew what IGL is BEFORE this mess. I'd kinda like to know what his answer is. I do think that the 12.5 PSI preference is based on his feel for the ball as opposed to his foresight in allowing atmospheric conditions deflate the ball naturally. He may be manipulating the spirit of the rule, but he is not breaking the rule.

In fairness to Kensil-****, the Colts and the rest of those McJetsLuvin' idiots in the NFL office, I tend to think that they fell into that camp as well. The game temp was 49 deg so I assume they didn't think there would be much atmospheric deflating going on thus allowing them to have confidence in pouncing on poor Jaz and the Pats.

I hate all of this.
Re: the bolded, that's the conclusion you can draw from both the Wells report (texts and conversations that show Brady didn't know the 12.5-13.5 until it was pointed out to him after the Jets game, then him telling Jastremski to keep the balls on the low end), and his press conference (where he said he goes by feel, the texture of the ball). I think it's nuanced and you can spin what he said to imply he lied about knowing the rule, but the timeline actually backs his story up:
--no idea about psi before the Jets/16 psi game. The rule change in 2006 had nothing to do with psi, it was about QB's prepping balls the way they liked them, i.e. the 'feel' of the footballs. This is well documented.
--alerted to the 12.5-13.5 rule after the Jets/16 psi game, at which point he asks where the balls are generally pumped up to. When told 12.8-12.9 (or thereabouts), he said to start putting them at 12.5, the low end of the spectrum, and make sure the refs know the rule.
--none of the above implies a knowledge of the IGL, what game-time temps would do to the football. Brady wanted them at the low end of legal and there are multiple pieces of evidence point to this, there is nothing that implies he wanted them below the legal limit, nothing.

re: Kensil/Colts/NFL officials/refs, I agree completely (and just posted something to that effect). This all started because they, like Brady and Belichick, had no idea what a halftime football would read when it was outside in 49 degree, rainy weather for 2 hours. No one. They jumped to conclusions and ran with them. The leaks afterward belie a level of corruption since they were never corrected, but on gameday it's simple: no one knew their science.
 
I asked Andre Tippett about the hardest he ever hit someone.

His response was that he had knocked Ken O'Brien out of a game once. At the time he didn't know it but at the pro bowl a Teammate of O'Brien told Andre what went down that day. After the hit they were trying to figure out if O'Brien could get back in the game but when they asked him about the plays he was giving the wrong answers as it turned out he was reciting plays from his high school playbook. Tippett knocked him back to high school.
Thank you for that. That's some funny s#@!.
 
Just out of curiosity, is there even one Patriots friendly working at 345 Park Avenue?

In addition to the former Jets goofs comprising the executive positions there, I'm guessing that everyone else working there lives in the NY metro area and 99.9% are Jets or Giants fans (maybe a few Steelers fans sprinkled in for diversity). I have to think that sort of work environment has at least some influence on Goodell's decision making process.
 
Just out of curiosity, is there even one Patriots friendly working at 345 Park Avenue?

In addition to the former Jets goofs comprising the executive positions there, I'm guessing that everyone else working there lives in the NY metro area and 99.9% are Jets or Giants fans (maybe a few Steelers fans sprinkled in for diversity). I have to think that sort of work environment has at least some influence on Goodell's decision making process.
There might be a few but all are in mid-level mgt roles looking up at glass ceilings.
 
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