Beyond Kensil: More Questionable NFL - Jets Connections

signbabybrady said:

I asked Andre Tippett about the hardest he ever hit someone.

His response was that he had knocked Ken O'Brien out of a game once. At the time he didn't know it but at the pro bowl a Teammate of O'Brien told Andre what went down that day. After the hit they were trying to figure out if O'Brien could get back in the game but when they asked him about the plays he was giving the wrong answers as it turned out he was reciting plays from his high school playbook. Tippett knocked him back to high school.

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Andre Tippet, maybe my favorite patriot player of all time. On another note how can the owners allow the jest front office to run the league? they couldn't even run one team without it being a disaster. It boggles the mind.

reflexblue said:

Andre Tippet, maybe my favorite patriot player of all time. On another note how can the owners allow the jest front office to run the league when they couldn't even run one team without it being a disaster? It boggles the mind.

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It's why I've 180ed on Bob Kraft from admiration & respect to...

robertweathers said:

I'm racking my brain to think of who might have worn 56 after AT and I'm coming up empty.

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Ya, I think 56 and 73 are essentially off-limits, but I could be wrong.

reflexblue said:

Andre Tippet, maybe my favorite patriot player of all time. On another note how can the owners allow the jest front office to run the league when they couldn't even run one team without it being a disaster? It boggles the mind.

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I dunno, but it can't be a coincidence that the entire league office has become a rats' nest of nepotism, incompetence, and general jackassery since Jets alums took over.

Concussion Protocol said:

Ya, I think 56 and 73 are essentially off-limits, but I could be wrong.

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Yep. Hog Hannah is officially retired. 56 is not. That is the reason for the confusion.

BradyFTW! said:

I dunno, but it can't be a coincidence that the entire league office has become a rats' nest of nepotism, incompetence, and general jackassery since Jets alums took over.

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....and we aren't talking about the creme de la creme from Google, Harvard Business School and Facebook.

These are people who cleaned toilets and worked as cashiers at Pilots Truck Stop in Paterson, NJ.

Concussion Protocol said:

Ya, I think 56 and 73 are essentially off-limits, but I could be wrong.

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I agree. I did a quick scan and no one has worn 56 since AT in 1993.

JDSal45 said:

Another Goodell-Jets connection apparently is a guy named Neil Glat, who is the current President of the Jets. Worked under Goodell in the early 90s. Was rehired by Goodell to the NFL in the late 90s after law school. Was called Goodell's "Lieutenant" in this 2003 article:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2003/11/20031110/Forty-Under-40/Neil-Glat.aspx

Glat was hired from the NFL to be President of the Jets in 2012 by Woody Johnson.

So, the President of the Patriots chief rival was the right hand man of the guy screwing them for nearly a decade now?

And then there is this:

NFL in-house Attorney Todd David Gardi, who is the person who wrote the letter to Kraft shortly after the AFCCG claiming one ball was as low as 10.1 psi and all Colts balls were in compliance, is the son of the late Joe Gardi, defensive coordinator for the Jets and coach there from 1976-1985 and long time coach at Hofstra, where Todd David is also an alum of, presumably playing for his dad. Obviously the Hofstra program has had a long association with the Jets as well and the Jets training camp was and is there and has been for years.

I wonder what NFL team Todd David grew up a fan of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gardi

http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/

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And when you have an owner who won't say "boo!" to the league, who will stand up for the Pats against the Rats nest?

Koma said:

Anything objective or pro-Patriots is examined to see if that source has any extra "motivation" behind their viewpoints. The Nobel prize winning physicist? The Kraft's made an investment in his company. The AEI guys? They're from Massachusetts.

You never hear about how many prominent figures in the NFL front office are either former Jets employees or grew up in the NY/ NJ area rooting for the local teams.

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You mean other than here.

Time to call in the exterminators...

robertweathers said:

@Clonamery - bad experience with Tippett?

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I'm hoping it's just a smartphone mis-click. When I was young and naive, I still indulged in having a favorite player; AT was my first, so I don't want that memory tarnished.

JDSal45 said:

AD: I was the only girl in a family of many, many male cousins who lived, breathed, and died football, so I almost had no choice in the matter. I grew up in Queens, New York, rooting for the Jets"

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Child abuse.

They say those subjected to abuse as kids grow up to be abusers

Koma said:

Anything objective or pro-Patriots is examined to see if that source has any extra "motivation" behind their viewpoints. The Nobel prize winning physicist? The Kraft's made an investment in his company. The AEI guys? They're from Massachusetts.

You never hear about how many prominent figures in the NFL front office are either former Jets employees or grew up in the NY/ NJ area rooting for the local teams.

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Yes you do...from ME...the last 8 years!!!! I wrote nonstop on these threads for years....YEARS...about this scummy Jet cabal in the NFL offices...yeah, but I was crazy. No way the NFL was biased, no way was Goodell pushing a hidden agenda...nah...it was all just a big COINKY DINKY. Remember??? "oh Joker, this is just a coincidence...and that is just a coincidence...and this is another coincidence...NFL and Goodell PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW!!!!"

Turns out I was RIGHT about everyhting and guess what...I have still MORE documented scumbaggery that has yet to see the light. Remember Goodell claiming publicly that he was a Redskin fan and grew up in Western NY? I have RESPONSES from his high school classmates that directly contradict THAT lie and state for the record he was, in fact, a HUGE Jet fan as a three sport "star" at Bronxville High School...in EASTERN NY just before the Connecticut state line. That and MORE....please, if there is a God, PLEASE let this shamgate get to federal court in Boston...PLEASE!...I will burn this cokksukker DOWN.

Wax Frog said:

Time to call in the exterminators...

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Someone needs to photoshop BB into that.

I still await, some national author, to connect all these dots and present a meaningful synopsis on that organized crime syndicate that is aka the NFL league office at 345 Madison Ave...

These fockers who occupy 345 Madison Ave, can fool some of the people some of the time.. but not all of us all of the time..

Joker said:

Yes you do...from ME...the last 8 years!!!! I wrote nonstop on these threads for years....YEARS...about this scummy Jet cabal in the NFL offices...yeah, but I was crazy. No way the NFL was biased, no way was Goodell pushing a hidden agenda...nah...it was all just a big COINKY DINKY. Remember??? "oh Joker, this is just a coincidence...and that is just a coincidence...and this is another coincidence...NFL and Goodell PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW!!!!"

Turns out I was RIGHT about everything and guess what...I have still MORE documented scumbaggery that has yet to see the light. Remember Goodell claiming publicly that he was a Redskin fan and grew up in Western NY? I have RESPONSES from his high school classmates that directly contradict THAT lie and state for the record he was, in fact, a HUGE Jet fan as a three sport "star" at Bronxville High School...in EASTERN NY just before the Connecticut state line. That and MORE....please, if there is a God, PLEASE let this shamgate get to federal court in Boston...PLEASE!...I will burn this cokksukker DOWN.

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Okay, ya sure, but just because you were right about everything doesn't mean you're not crazy. I eagerly await your new web site: "NFLcontext.com"

One of the obligations and responsibilities that comes with an executive position in any organization is to protect and leverage the assets. These assets include the management positions in the organization. The responsibility of the executive is to fill those roles with the absolutely best people available, using bojective performance criteria, and pulling from the entire population of potential personnel.

So, the Jets have been a breeding ground for managerial excellence over the past decade, so much so that after an exhaustive, professional search, NFL positions get filled by former Jets employees to a higher than normal extent?

Who woulda' thunk it?

robertweathers said:

Something is up with that. One of the all-time great Patriots and Top 3 OLBs in NFL History and the only team he has played for still has his number in circulation....doesn't add up.

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Retiring numbers is crazy. It is like the Bolsheviks officially expunging the memory and existence of their Gulag occupants, making them "unpersons".

At most some special modification of the uniforms bearing their number is more likely indicated. That way every time a present occupant of that number makes a play, it will likely be obvious that a famous player used to wear that number, and his historical exploits maybe recalled.

All the Pats retired numbers should be un-retired, and so treated with a special recognition such as a patch with the HOF players name included on that jersey. Futhermore only Canton HOF players numbers should be so treated. (I would prefer outlining the numbers in Gold with the HOF players name, in small script placed somewhere on the Uniform.).

As for inconsistency, why is HOF Buoniconti's # 85 not retired? He was a Pats player longer than the years he served as a Dolphin, after stupid Clive Rush traded him there, for the equivalent of a handful of Jack's beanstalk "magic beans". Buoniconti was the MLB captain of the "No Name" Defense that went an entire season unbeaten and untied.

AzPatsFan said:

Retiring numbers is crazy. It is like the Bolsheviks officially expunging the memory and existence of their Gulag occupants, making them "unpersons".

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WTF? That's... a stretch.