Mike Florio: Goodell Underling(s) Were Out to Get the Patriots

eom · Jun 24, 2015

Ended kind of abruptly - is there a link to part 2?

On my phone, so maybe I'm missing it

Dr Pain · Jun 24, 2015

Ivan said:
The NFL gave up their non profit status.

Not sure if it has gone through yet but they were non profit then.

Brady_to_Moss · Jun 24, 2015

Going along WITH the Pats? Full moon?

Dr Pain · Jun 24, 2015

eom said:
Ended kind of abruptly - is there a link to part 2?

On my phone, so maybe I'm missing it

All I am comfortable sharing. Point is NFL lied, provided false data which any reasonable person can see would affect the Patriots ability to prepare for the Super Bowl, the most gambled upon event in the US. Was this an attempt to influence the Super Bowl? With legalized gambling coming, we can't risk not knowing and the AG needs to ask the NFL some tough questions on this and let the public know that the game is clean. Do any of us know if someone placed a big bet on Seattle at the start of the year and this misinformation was an attempt to cut the Patriots off at the knees?

eom · Jun 24, 2015

I think the file was labeled pt1 - could I get a pt2 direct link?

IcyPatriot · Jun 24, 2015

Jlaff said:
"Ted Wells' work in this investigation is sufficiently shoddy, that it would make sense to go back and look at what he did in the Dolphin's case..." - Florio in interview.

Ted Wells taking a hit to his reputation on definitely big on my wish list in all this. Dr. Pain, can't wait to hear that scoop you have!

But how could his work be good if there was nothing to begin with?
So he got paid 5 million to be a schill ......

IcyPatriot · Jun 24, 2015

Dr Pain said:
All I am comfortable sharing. Point is NFL lied, provided false data which any reasonable person can see would affect the Patriots ability to prepare for the Super Bowl, the most gambled upon event in the US. Was this an attempt to influence the Super Bowl? With legalized gambling coming, we can't risk not knowing and the AG needs to ask the NFL some tough questions on this and let the public know that the game is clean.

I like this line of thinking ... I am naturally a conspiracy theory person anyways but this is a great point.

cmasspatsfan · Jun 24, 2015

Maybe Florio will be the one to scoop the bigger story here, the corruption in the NYFL front office and blow this thing wide open.

Dr Pain · Jun 24, 2015

IcyPatriot said:
I like this line of thinking ... I am naturally a conspiracy theory person anyways but this is a great point.

These are words that may resonate with the AG who does have the right to send a letter to the NFL telling the NFL to explain what they did. There are literally billions of gambling dollars at stake in the Super Bowl and no reasonable person can deny that the false information the NFL presented, would not have negatively affected the Patriots preparation. The first Casino in Massachusetts opened just today.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Jun 24, 2015

Florio got a degree in engineering from Carnegie Mellon before law school and before becoming a writer/reporter. Delving into the scientific aspects of psi & temperature did not scare him and he recognized BS when he saw it in the Wells Report. He wasn't pro-Patriots in any way until the Wells Report came out. It wasn't a matter of deciding to like us, or deciding to pile on the NFL, or anything other than the BS detector of a (former) scientist working like it should.

eom · Jun 24, 2015

Ohhhh nvm pt 2 comes out tomorrow so stay tuned

Silver Blue&Red · Jun 24, 2015

I couldn't be more thrilled that the truth is finally coming out. I (like many of us) have been so adamant from the beginning of the innocence of the Pats. I've had many, very heated discussions about this with local friends and acquaintances. To the point of them not wanting to discuss it anymore. It pisses me off. They just hear mainstream media, (BSPN, NFLN....) crap. . And here we are, just as we've insisted, ad nauseam. One day they will get a HUGE "Told you So, dumb asses". "Your all just jealous". "Now YOU STFU". ....It feels good to be right. Now hopefully they get it through their thick skulls.

VectorPrime · Jun 24, 2015

eom said:
Ohhhh nvm pt 2 comes out tomorrow so stay tuned

Part 2 of what? Florio's report?

eom · Jun 24, 2015

VectorPrime said:
Part 2 of what? Florio's report?

Pt 2 of the interview on audio

There's a player embedded in that article for the audio of pt 1 of the interview - check it out don't just read excerpts

ViperGTS · Jun 24, 2015

Dr Pain said:
I just wrote to the Massachusetts Attorney general at [email protected]

I linked to the NFL letter http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/ Explained the letter stated 10.1 when the later Wells report http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Deflategate.pdf showed the lowest was 10.85. "

"The significance of this is that the drop in pressure from 12.5 to 10.85 is explainable by atmospheric conditions and a cold rain during the AFC Championship game while a drop from 12.5PSI to 10.1PSI was not. The NFL had the correct measurements yet provided the false number of 10.1 which could have only come about by human intervention. This resulted in the Patriots having to spend a considerable amount of time dealing with a scandal that did not exist when they should have been dedicated to preparing for the Super Bowl. That the Patriots ultimately won the Super Bowl should not diminish the severity of this act by the NFL.

The Super Bowl is the largest sporting event in the United States and the amount bet on the Super Bowl is in the billions of dollars http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/31/7923869/super-bowl-2015-betting-prop-bets-gambling-wager-nfl . Any potential attempt to influence the Super Bowl by deception is something that the Attorney General’s office should look into. The NFL has yet to release any public explanation on how and why the NFL provided this inaccurate information to the Patriots at this pivotal point when in fact the NFL was the only organization with the proper measurements.

The NFL exists as a nonprofit organization under a Federal antitrust exemption and as such they should be held to a high ethical standard. It is shocking that they would engage in such actions which any reasonable person will clearly see would impact the most bet upon sporting event in the United States by distracting the Patriots who should have been solely focused on Super Bowl preparation.

I urge the Attorney General’s office to contact the NFL and determine how such a letter came to be and assess if there was any attempt to inappropriately influence the Super Bowl, the most gambled upon sporting event in the United States. With legalized gambling on the way in our Commonwealth, we cannot afford to allow activities such as this go unexplained in Massachusetts. If the NFL claims it was a simple error then the NFL must explain why they did not correct this error as soon as it was identified. I am certain that the electorate would be forever grateful for any clarity you can bring to the situation brought on by the NFL, a nonprofit organization under a Federal antitrust exemption."

Very well done sir!

I will be waiting to I see what if any response you receive. The gambling angle is quite interesting as I myself had not seen it from that perspective. Again, this situation is a slam dunk for a federal investigation. The powers that be most likely will not allow a such an investigation to take place. Kraft himself would do everything in his power to impede such an event.

I can't believe I actually wrote and believe that last sentence. Sigh.

VectorPrime · Jun 24, 2015

eom said:
Pt 2 of the interview on audio

There's a player embedded in that article for the audio of pt 1 of the interview - check it out don't just read excerpts

Oh. I was hoping that Florio had more info to unveil.

Soul_Survivor88 · Jun 24, 2015

Dr Pain said:
I just wrote to the Massachusetts Attorney general at [email protected]

I linked to the NFL letter http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/ Explained the letter stated 10.1 when the later Wells report http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Deflategate.pdf showed the lowest was 10.85. "

"The significance of this is that the drop in pressure from 12.5 to 10.85 is explainable by atmospheric conditions and a cold rain during the AFC Championship game while a drop from 12.5PSI to 10.1PSI was not. The NFL had the correct measurements yet provided the false number of 10.1 which could have only come about by human intervention. This resulted in the Patriots having to spend a considerable amount of time dealing with a scandal that did not exist when they should have been dedicated to preparing for the Super Bowl. That the Patriots ultimately won the Super Bowl should not diminish the severity of this act by the NFL.

The Super Bowl is the largest sporting event in the United States and the amount bet on the Super Bowl is in the billions of dollars http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/31/7923869/super-bowl-2015-betting-prop-bets-gambling-wager-nfl . Any potential attempt to influence the Super Bowl by deception is something that the Attorney General’s office should look into. The NFL has yet to release any public explanation on how and why the NFL provided this inaccurate information to the Patriots at this pivotal point when in fact the NFL was the only organization with the proper measurements.

The NFL exists as a nonprofit organization under a Federal antitrust exemption and as such they should be held to a high ethical standard. It is shocking that they would engage in such actions which any reasonable person will clearly see would impact the most bet upon sporting event in the United States by distracting the Patriots who should have been solely focused on Super Bowl preparation.

I urge the Attorney General’s office to contact the NFL and determine how such a letter came to be and assess if there was any attempt to inappropriately influence the Super Bowl, the most gambled upon sporting event in the United States. With legalized gambling on the way in our Commonwealth, we cannot afford to allow activities such as this go unexplained in Massachusetts. If the NFL claims it was a simple error then the NFL must explain why they did not correct this error as soon as it was identified. I am certain that the electorate would be forever grateful for any clarity you can bring to the situation brought on by the NFL, a nonprofit organization under a Federal antitrust exemption."

Have you thought about publicizing this letter? Or at least have people try to sign it?

Dr Pain · Jun 24, 2015

ViperGTS said:
Very well done sir!

I will be waiting to I see what if any response you receive. The gambling angle is quite interesting as I myself had not seen it from that perspective. Again, this situation is a slam dunk for a federal investigation. The powers that be most likely will not allow a such an investigation to take place. Kraft himself would do everything in his power to impede such an event.

I can't believe I actually wrote and believe that last sentence. Sigh.

Join in. If I were the Mass AG, what harm could come by asking the NFL. You have a plausible reason to ask now and it would endear you to the electorate, well at least a bunch of guys who are probably be less likely to vote for a democratic woman. If she does this, she has won me over forever.

Dr Pain · Jun 24, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Have you thought about publicizing this letter? Or at least have people try to sign it?

No, if anyone wants to try and clean it up and post it in its own thread I think that would be good. I whipped this up in around 20 minutes but don't have my usual proof reader. We are stronger together.

Soul_Survivor88 · Jun 25, 2015

Dr Pain said:
No, if anyone wants to try and clean it up and post it in its own thread I think that would be good. I whipped this up in around 20 minutes but don't have my usual proof reader. We are stronger together.

Amen brother! Let's figure out a way to do this

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