Official Brady Appeal Thread: D-Day Tuesday June 23rd

shmessy said:

Actually, it means alot.

The proceedings took place under oath and were recorded.

The civil courts will get to review what went down.

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Were they recorded?? That would make too much sense in light of the Ray Rice fiasco when notes were important to determine what was aid....

PatsFanSince74 said:

How the NFLPA agreed to this nonsense in the first place is beyond me.

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Because it's a job market where the earning potential is off the charts high, yet the average lifespan of the job is relatively low (3.5 years).

In other words, the high majority of the players want money, money, and more money--so they were willing to make some concessions in terms of issues that don't apply to more than a handful of players each year. About 99 percent of these players don't care one way or the other, since it will never happen to them.

It's spoken of in the link that I provided from Reiss' column/blog a few posts earlier.

Deus Irae said:

Munson's been wrong on just about everything relating to this case.

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at least Roger Cossack has a law degree....

Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran
Annnnnnd the skies open up as the appeal seems to be wrapping up...

https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/613469654397399040/photo/1

SVN said:

I wish schefter didnt work for ESPN. He probably knew mort was wrong with 11 of 12 PSI BS but had to keep quiet to protect his colleague.

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mort hasnt apologized at all. i wish he would come on one of the new england radio shows so they could ask him about his **** report.

sambam94 said:

well, we don't know he did absolutely nothing..now do we?

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It stretches all boundaries of common sense, because 2 of 12 footballs were deflated by 0.3-0.4 psi and 3 were overINFLATED by about that same amount, using gauges that lack sufficient precision to call such a small difference meaningful at all.

So if he did something, he said "Hey deflator, take almost nothing out of 2 balls, and then add almost nothing to 3 others, leaving the rest unchanged. I like it when I have no idea what my footballs are like, too high, too low, or in-between. I call it 'grab bag fun'."

IllegalContact said:

I agree.....but if it is just a fine, Brady would wind up spending more in legal fees to overturn

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It's not just Brady's call. He is a member of the NFLPA and they have a mandate to do what is in the best interests of ALL the players.

Brady will be counseled to play ball with them, since he has standing to litigate the issues that he NFLPA can use to wrest power from the Commissioner's office when it comes to discipline and sanctions against players.

rochrist said:

Right. The worst owner in football. Worse than Woody Johnson. Worse than Dan Snyder.

Get a grip.

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Yeah, worse than Art Modell. Oh, wait, he's dead

supafly said:

Mike Reiss' take with the two legal analysts from ESPN, Munson and Cossack (cue the ESPN *****ing):

Warning--they both paint a fairly bleak picture in terms of federal court involvement.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england...tom-brady-doesnt-get-appeal-result-he-desires

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I heard a 5 minute segment of an interview between Munson and John Clayton a few months ago.... holy ****. The guy was wrong about everything, even law oriented items that he should definitely know more than I. Needless to say, I'm encouraged by what he says here.

rochrist said:

I just think that no one ever talks to Greg 'League Spokesman' Aiello.

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In the future we should refer to him as Baghdad Bob.

SVN said:

I wish schefter didnt work for ESPN. He probably knew mort was wrong with 11 of 12 PSI BS but had to keep quiet to protect his colleague.

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I think he reports the truth pretty freely, even when it contradicts his colleagues. He was really quick to correct Kelly Naqi's inaccurate report.

JJC said:

It's not just Brady's call. He is a member of the NFLPA and they have a mandate to do what is in the best interests of ALL the players.

Brady will be counseled to play ball with them, since he has standing to litigate the issues that he NFLPA can use to wrest power from the Commissioner's office when it comes to discipline and sanctions against players.

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I'm not sure about that. If Goody says to TB12 that he is exonerated and he needs to pay the parking ticket and court costs at the door, he just might say yes and the NFLPA at the end of the day would have done its job and be happy with the outcome.

smurfalarm said:

I think he reports the truth pretty freely, even when it contradicts his colleagues. He was really quick to correct Kelly Naqi's inaccurate report.

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Shefter throws a lot of stuff out there but I can't recall him ever approaching Mort levels of inaccuracy.

robertweathers said:

I'm not sure about that. If Goody says to TB12 that he is exonerated and he needs to pay the parking ticket and court costs at the door, he just might say yes and the NFLPA at the end of the day would have done its job and be happy with the outcome.

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The NFLPA, from all reports, thinks this case is a gift from the gods. They'd obviously have to abide by Brady's decision, but I expect that they'd be pissed about losing such a golden opportunity to attack the CBA.

Aiello denying Schefter's claim, then Schefter playing the trump card (the actual letter) suggests that Schefter is working with a source from Brady's side. Otherwise the NFL would likely have known that Schefter might have that document.

This bears watching... maybe we will get some helpful leaks for a change, through Schefty.

supafly said:

Mike Reiss' take with the two legal analysts from ESPN, Munson and Cossack (cue the ESPN *****ing):

Warning--they both paint a fairly bleak picture in terms of federal court involvement.

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Yes, because the NFLPA has a bad record going against the NFL in court.

Oswlek said:

I heard a 5 minute segment of an interview between Munson and John Clayton a few months ago.... holy ****. The guy was wrong about everything, even law oriented items that he should definitely know more than me. Needless to say, I'm encouraged by what he says here.

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Munson also stated that what someone or someone's in the St Louis Cardinals organization did wasn't really illegal.

Rights. There is more evidence of moronic activity at every turn. I am wondering how you can be a legal expert with ideas such as that. In short, don't listen to one thing this Munson has to say. He knows nothing. Meanwhile, McCann doesn't get the national pub he deserves.

Munson's lost it. He used to be informative, but now he is just addled.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

Aiello denying Schefter's claim, then Schefter playing the trump card (the actual letter) suggests that Schefter is working with a source from Brady's side. Otherwise the NFL would likely have known that Schefter might have that document.

This bears watching... maybe we will get some helpful leaks for a change, through Schefty.

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Even better would be if the leak was in house and this is palace coup attempt trying to get Goodell to lose...again.

Munson is almost always wrong. He's not a "legal analyst" so much as "legal poor dart thrower."