The Official Brady Appeal Thread: Live Updates and Rumors

Dr Pain said:

You can't PM someone on Twitter unless they follow you

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You could try PMing him here on Patsfans, here's his username: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/members/prentice-mccray.19061/

Looks like he hasn't signed in in a while though, so probably wouldn't help.

Dr Pain said:

You can't PM someone on Twitter unless they follow you

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Link to it on here. Tweet him that it's in this thread.

Dr Pain said:

There is another surprise coming Mr Wells way too he does not have a clue about. Can't say more but it will be very fun for all of us when I can say anything.

If anyone has any email addresses for any truth friendly Media please PM me. Can't twitter them cause is a file.

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Such a tease! But I'm ready to give you the benefit of the doubt...but, it better be good and you'd better send us all a link to it once you "can say anything" or you will be "credibility challenged".

Deus Irae said:

Link to it on here. Tweet him that it's in this thread.

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Agreed.

Deus Irae said:

Link to it on here. Tweet him that it's in this thread.

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Will do. Good idea. Thanks

Dr Pain said:

Will do. Good idea. Thanks

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Holding my breath! Don't leave us in suspense.

Dr Pain said:

Will do. Good idea. Thanks

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Another option might be to make a new thread and put the link in the O.P. That might make it easier for him.

obgod3 said:

"On if Brady’s argument will change in the federal court as opposed to the appeal: “They’ll attack everything just to point out how bad the process is. Even though, when you go to court to challenge the outcome of an arbitration proceeding, the bar is pretty high. Judges like it when private parties decide on their own to work out their differences with an arbitration. Judges don’t get paid by the case and they don’t get paid by the hour. They’re on salary. And anything out there that reduces the workload of the court system in this country is a good thing. That’s why there’s a federal arbitration act that encourages these proper arbitrations. It’s a high bar to get there."

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This is what interests me. I am assuming nothing is going to change from the appeal this week. So how high is this bar to get a judge to hear this case? I like Brady's chances in an independent court, but what are odds it will get that far?

SVN said:

Thats all volin has been doing ever since he became a "journalist"- try and find any -ve with the pats .

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fixed that for you

Dr Pain said:

There is another surprise coming Mr Wells way too he does not have a clue about. Can't say more but it will be very fun for all of us when I can say anything.

If anyone has any email addresses for any truth friendly Media please PM me. Can't twitter them cause is a file.

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I know you said no twitter, but you could twitter some of these people just to get the addy
matt chatham's been tweeting a steady stream of denouncements
steph stradley isn't actually media, but she's probably a higher profile blogger, maybe, very sympathetic to the cause - lawyer, too
mike reiss, of course
curran, of course
rich hill

juny said:

This is what interests me. I am assuming nothing is going to change from the appeal this week. So how high is this bar to get a judge to hear this case? I like Brady's chances in an independent court, but what are odds it will get that far?

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I'm not any kind of labor lawyer, but a lot of ppl are constantly citing the cba and I think maybe they lose track of the fact that the cba is only very specific and limited language pertaining to the nflpa's agreement with the nfl --- there's still a ton of bigger picture labor law baked in that nobody really mentions.

I think it'll go to court if brady and the nflpa choose to go that route after the appeal.

juny said:

This is what interests me. I am assuming nothing is going to change from the appeal this week. So how high is this bar to get a judge to hear this case? I like Brady's chances in an independent court, but what are odds it will get that far?

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The Bountygate case cleared the bar at least high enough that Federal court was in play until the 3 man appeals panel ruled in favor of the players, and Peterson's case cleared the bar enough that he won in Federal court.

Suspension will be upheld by Goodell and it will go to court. They will lose in court like they did with Peterson and Bountygate - but no one will care. That's my prediction.. Goodell makes enough money so that a few court losses won't bother him.

Its up to Kessler to make this one 'count' so to speak.. Hopefully we see a creative and far reaching lawsuit from him and turn this typical scenario around..

juny said:

This is what interests me. I am assuming nothing is going to change from the appeal this week. So how high is this bar to get a judge to hear this case? I like Brady's chances in an independent court, but what are odds it will get that far?

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100% chance of it happening. Brady wants the suspension removed, not a reduction.

JMC00 said:

100% chance of it happening. Brady wants the suspension removed, not a reduction.

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how can u be so sure?

BigPeteG said:

Suspension will be upheld by Goodell and it will go to court. They will lose in court like they did with Peterson and Bountygate - but no one will care. That's my prediction.. Goodell makes enough money so that a few court losses won't bother him.

Its up to Kessler to make this one 'count' so to speak.. Hopefully we see a creative and far reaching lawsuit from him and turn this typical scenario around..

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Not a lawyer, so exposing myself to sounding like (more than normal?) an idiot here....

To the point above - every suspension that has been brought to court had been overturned, and Goodell/ the owners haven't cared about it because there has been no monetary damage to the NFL as a result. Is there any possibility for Kessler to (successfully) argue bad faith abuse of authority as part of a lawsuit for a separate arbitrator? That this suspension/appeal, and the consistent pattern of previous inappropriate NFL behavior - could constitute bad faith abuse of authority and therefore could allow the judge to impose punitive damages on the NFL even before awarding an independent arbitration hearing to Brady? The courts do not want these cases in front of them; they want internal arbitration to handle it. Continually having lawsuits filed due to that process - and continually having only one side be at fault - completely defeats that purpose.

Would anyone be surprised if goodell doesn't announce the result of the appeal 1 week before the regular season ? Its almost a month since greg hardy's hearing.

Dr Pain said:

You can't PM someone on Twitter unless they follow you

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You don't have to pm, just tweet.

Just really got into twitter recently and I've gotten answers back from Chatham on a couple questions

Hammer of Thor said:

Not a lawyer, so exposing myself to sounding like (more than normal?) an idiot here....

To the point above - every suspension that has been brought to court had been overturned, and Goodell/ the owners haven't cared about it because there has been no monetary damage to the NFL as a result. Is there any possibility for Kessler to (successfully) argue bad faith abuse of authority as part of a lawsuit for a separate arbitrator? That this suspension/appeal, and the consistent pattern of previous inappropriate NFL behavior - could constitute bad faith abuse of authority and therefore could allow the judge to impose punitive damages on the NFL even before awarding an independent arbitration hearing to Brady? The courts do not want these cases in front of them; they want internal arbitration to handle it. Continually having lawsuits filed due to that process - and continually having only one side be at fault - completely defeats that purpose.

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Just a note: The NFL won with the Starcaps case and suspensions.

Deus Irae said:

Just a note: The NFL won with the Starcaps case and suspensions.

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Thanks, forgot about that one. Idiot it is then!