The Official Brady Appeal Thread: Live Updates and Rumors

Ross12 said:

Wells was easily intimidated by a bunch of sports reporters on a remote conference call. He will get his ass handed to him by Kessler.

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Keep in mind that Wells is an incredibly successful lawyer. Highly paid and brings in big time $ to his firm not just from the NFL.

To put it in military terms, hes a Air Force Col. that flies generals around in Lear Jets.

Kessler flies combat missions for fun and leaves nothing living as a result of his presence.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

AEI’s Stan Veuger: Roger Goodell Can’t Uphold Tom Brady’s Suspension

http://nesn.com/2015/06/aeis-stan-veuger-roger-goodell-cant-uphold-tom-bradys-suspension/

AEI’s Stan Veuger doesn’t believe Brady’s suspension can stand after the Wells Report was discredited by the think tank’s research. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will hear Brady’s suspension appeal Tuesday. “I don’t think (Goodell) can sustain the punishment for Brady that he put in place in the first place because that punishment was based, at least in part, on a report that has been at least, in part, discredited, so you would expect the punishment to come down,” Veuger told NESN.com. “At the same time, of course, he put a lot of faith in this report. He paid a lot of money for it. Walking away from the report is tough, too, plus it opens him up to all sorts of new complaints from the Patriots camp.”

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So much for Fart Smreer's "AEI's report doesn't exonerate Brady". One of the guy's that authored the report says it does.

One good thing about wells being there means Kessler can go after him.

JMC00 said:

So much for Fart Smreer's "AEI's report doesn't exonerate Brady". One of the guy's that authored the report says it does.

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Of course. It's a little bizarre to say that a report maintaining footballs weren't deflated doesn't exonerate a guy being accused of knowing that footballs were deflated.

Wells showing up does set up a potential "under the bus" scenario for Exponent.

Deus Irae said:

Wells showing up does set up a potential "under the bus" scenario for Exponent.

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Yeah I can see it now, wells blames his bad report on exponent and walks away with no problems.

Matt Chatham ‏@chatham58 1m1 minute ago
NFL appeal sham-a-lamma features "independent" witness in Wells from the firm that defends the NFL in concussion cases. NOW we're neutral...

AndyJohnson said:

Its still not telling us whether Brady's team can question Wells.

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it would be interesting to know what the procedure for tomorrow 's hearing will be.

Shouldn't they have Exponent there to refute the AEI report as it's science related. If Wells didn't understand it to begin with, how can he defend/discuss the science?

Also, Brady didn't introduce the Exponent report and Kessler may have their own scientists along to break down the science part of the report. Oddly enough, I feel Brady wins regarless. if there's no reduction or even if Brady feels like taking it to task, then he takes the NFL to court. If Goodeel dismissed the charges, Brady plays.

One thing I'd point out about my earlier stance. Apparently, Goodell is tied to the Wells report and won't vacate the suspension or Wells (unless it's a roast and Ted+ 5million is good enough) is a scapegoat.

I feel good knowing that Kessler and his team will be the smartest guys in the room and I hope they can record it.

Darrone said:

Does anyone believe tomorrow even matters? Ever since Kraft walked in there furious, and left hugging, I've assumed Kraft agreed to take the team punishments in exchange for a reduction of Brady's suspension. There is just nothing that Goodell could have said to bring Kraft around without guaranteeing a reduction of Brady's penalty.

The handshake agreement exists. The rest is theater.

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Kraft too the penalty because kraft has no backbone.

Kraft woudl rather take the penalty now and swim in his giant pool of money they have to deal with the act of fighting the league that sends him all of this money.

Kraft doesnt care about the fans, or reputation of the team. all kraft cares about are the dollar signs.

JMC00 said:

Of course Smreer would throw in "doesn't exonerate Brady". Uh AEI's report kind of does exonerate Brady, dumbass. They nail the science which would basically say no-one was deflating balls which if no-one was deflating balls then that kind of does exonerate Brady

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It's almost cute that Breer tries to act like he's not an NFL employee.

Go figure, Ben Volin tweets out an email from a "professor" from University of Vermont (actually he is a statistician, not a professor) refuting the AEI report or at least part of it. The email doesn't actually refute the final results, but claims that they could replicate Exponent's experiment that AEI says is not replicable. The email actually states that he did not look at the final results from AEI, but only that part. But of course Volin uses it as proof AEI is wrong.

Right on cue, a U Vermont professor forwards me an email. Actually refutes some of the AEI report. Interesting

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https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/613043499852800000/photo/1

Here is the guy's Linkedin profile.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-desarno/7/249/352

I hope someone gets up to take a leak and Kessler times their absence to admit it as evidence. "Roger/Ted, would you say that it is more probable than not that man was taking a piss?"

Would also love to see them wheel in a refrigerator along with a bunch of regulation footballs to demonstrate the ideal gas law.

robertweathers said:

OK. Not sure about the Wells appearance. Might be Goody having both cards to play. If Wells kicks ass, nothing changes. If he crumbles like a cookie, Goody might reduce the penalty. Either way I think tomorrow this is a side show. Main event is in court.

With that said, imagine the ratings this would get if this was on prime time TV?

I bet a 40 share. Easy.

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I think that's a good point, inviting Wells might be a way to take some of the focus/pressure off Goodell. Wells has been paid tens of millions by the NFL, now he either sinks or swims. If Wells is destroyed like we all expect it'll be the out for Goodell to say 'we trusted Ted Wells to deliver us a solid investigation and report and he failed in that task.'

I don't know if this is likely, but it's at least possible that Goodell has invited Wells not as the independent investigator highlighting his findings but as a sacrificial lamb of sorts, throwing him to the wolves (Kessler/NFLPA) rather than putting himself in the crosshairs.

Well I was checking out BSPN patriots blog. I noticed a post "Ted Wells to attend Tom Brady hearing". With all the garbage on that blog now naturally I looked at the author and it was the Devil's Henchman himself...Chris Mortensen! He has surfaced!

Naturally I didn't read any of it.

Rob0729 said:

Go figure, Ben Volin tweets out an email from a "professor" from University of Vermont (actually he is a statistician, not a professor) refuting the AEI report or at least part of it. The email doesn't actually refute the final results, but claims that they could replicate Exponent's experiment that AEI says is not replicable. The email actually states that he did not look at the final results from AEI, but only that part. But of course Volin uses it as proof AEI is wrong.

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/613043499852800000/photo/1

Here is the guy's Linkedin profile.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-desarno/7/249/352

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Thats all volin has been doing ever since his kraft foundation crap fell through- try and find any -ve with the pats .

This is a pretty amusing tidbit from Florio on Wells.

And Ted Wells, whose displeasure with public criticism of his work resulted in one spirited conference call with the media and (per a league source) multiple calls to the league office pleading for stronger efforts to respond to those throwing darts at his work, likely will emerge from the process feeling angrier than ever.

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PFT

I have a bad feeling about this. I'm not talking about Goodell upholding the punishment since that would be a good thing since then this would go to court. I just feel something stupid is going to happen that will make this whole thing even more miserable.

Rob0729 said:

Go figure, Ben Volin tweets out an email from a "professor" from University of Vermont (actually he is a statistician, not a professor) refuting the AEI report or at least part of it. The email doesn't actually refute the final results, but claims that they could replicate Exponent's experiment that AEI says is not replicable. The email actually states that he did not look at the final results from AEI, but only that part. But of course Volin uses it as proof AEI is wrong.

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/613043499852800000/photo/1

Here is the guy's Linkedin profile.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-desarno/7/249/352

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This was my response on twitter

That guy isn't even a professor you f**king hack dolphins homer. You continue to show your anti-Pats bias. Source this a**hole

linkedin.com/pub/mike-desarno/7/249/352… "Statistician" not "Professor", another huge swing and miss from hack volin. go back to miami