PFF's secret superstar

from a series on hidden gems from each team

yeah, I know some of you ppl hate pff, but you can cram it with walnuts

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/06/18/secret-superstars-new-england-patriots/

I think it was the MIA game at home that clearly showed Seal outplaying VW by a decent margin.

The dude can flat out play. As the article says....can he stay healthy?

Interesting piece. Perhaps the DT grouping of Siliga, Brown, Easley and Branch (and probably Jones) will be good after all. I think Siliga and Branch would be a decent pairing, but add in Brown, Easley and Jones and you can have a potentially very good rotation, especially considering the guys should be kept pretty fresh.

Pair that DT rotation along with a likely frequent rotation at DE, and I hold out hope that the defensive line will be great this year.

That's my boy!!! Love this kid

Concussion Protocol said:

That's my boy!!! Love this kid

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Me too. As RobertWeathers says, "I hope he can stay healthy". That's the key right there. otherwise, I have no reservations about him, and although I hated to see Big Vince move on, I really believe that the D-Line will be fine.

Pats DL could be beastly if everyone stays healthy......Lots of youth also.....

Gwedd...what is it they say about brilliant minds ..

Gwedd said:

Me too. As RobertWeathers says, "I hope he can stay healthy". That's the key right there. otherwise, I have no reservations about him, and although I hated to see Big Vince move on, I really believe that the D-Line will be fine.

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He's big, thick, stout, has surprising pass rush ability, and plays with passion. My only concerns for Siliga are health and him playing so well that he can't be re-signed. He turned the entire run D around when he replaced Rollerskates Vellano in 2013. He's just very very good and under appreciated.

Siliga is a very good player. Not a superstar, but a very good player. And that is alright. Hell of a find by Beli and Nick.

Really, really like Siliga. Looking like a Ninko find, we will see tho.

Dude is a bit underrated by Pats fans that is for sure.

eom said:

yeah, I know some of you ppl hate pff, but you can cram it with walnuts

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I think the only reason people hate PFF is because at one point they put out some data that concluded one of Belichick's drafts wasn't all that bad.

Danger Zone said:

I think the only reason people hate PFF is because at one point they put out some data that concluded one of Belichick's drafts wasn't all that bad.

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I think there is a tendency to overstate PFF's rating of how good (or bad) a player really is.

It's data that should be part of an overall analysis...not represent the conclusion.

Danger Zone said:

I think the only reason people hate PFF is because at one point they put out some data that concluded one of Belichick's drafts wasn't all that bad.

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The whole Tom Brady is **** is one of the many drivers pushing my disdain for PFF.

robertweathers said:

I think there is a tendency to overstate PFF's rating of how good (or bad) a player really is.

It's data that should be part of an overall analysis...not represent the conclusion.

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Agreed, they should probably throw a little regression to the mean in there.

Siliga is a beast!

Danger Zone said:

I think the only reason people hate PFF is because at one point they put out some data that concluded one of Belichick's drafts wasn't all that bad.

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It was probably more the year that #12 became the first unanimous MVP in league history, and they said he wasn't even a top 5 QB, or whatever.

This is how I equate to PFF's ranking:

You walk into a bar, you see one guy get smacked in the mouth and you tell the other guy he's an *******. Yet you didn't see or hear why the guy decided to hit the other guy.

You can't pass judgement unless you know the whole story.

Flawed analysis based on incomplete data.

Whatever you think of PFF's other work or even the rest of the article, I agree with the following passage:

Having twice shown that he can be quite an effective player for half a season the next step for Siliga is to sustain his performance over a full season. And with Wilfork gone the Patriots more than ever will be counting on him to do so. The honeymoon period of being a surprisingly effective player is over, now Siliga will be counted on to perform consistently and lead a defensive interior that is comprised completely of young or unknown players.

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Meanwhile, from http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/boston/chat/_/id/51853,

On Easley, he still isn't 100 percent.

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IMO, PFF is not well liked because they try to quantify very subjective team info into what they call "meaningful statistics"... for many of us it just does not translate all that well.

Prefer my own personal, "eyeball" method..

DarrylS said:

IMO, PFF is not well liked because they try to quantify very subjective team info into what they call "meaningful statistics"... for many of us it just does not translate all that well.

Prefer my own personal, "eyeball" method..

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My biggest problem with PFF is that a lot of people take their word as an absolute fact, just because they put a number to their opinion. What they do is instead of saying "This player is really good", they say "this player is an 8/10", when they are the same thing. And people take this second saying as a fact, and the first one as an opinion, when they are both opinions.

eom said:

... I know some of you ppl hate pff, but you can cram it with walnuts

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If I handed you a cup of sh!t, how many walnuts would it take to make it a sundae?

ausbacker said:

The whole Tom Brady is **** is one of the many drivers pushing my disdain for PFF.

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If your metric determines Tom Brady is the 18th best QB in the league then your metric is wrong. I can see not #1. I can see, but not agree with, Luck, Rodgers, Manning etc., but when I see Colin Kaepernick* and Dalton...
(*It was over a season ago.)