Reports: Brady wants entire suspension removed, and is seeking to be fully exonerated

flasox27 · Jun 19, 2015

shmessy said:
How did Kraft "throw BB under the bus" in 2007? If anything, BB had to apologize profusely to Kraft back then for being (in Kraft's words) " a schmuck" for disregarding the written point of emphasis.

BB, as anyone knows, is his OWN man and will leave the very moment he feels his owner is not behind him. Do you believe he is someone who will stick for 8 more years and hug someone he feels threw him under a bus?

Anyone who knows one scintila about Bill Belichick knows that would never happen.

You seem more upset of BB's treatment by Kraft than BB is:

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Apparently you are one of the people who thinks that Goodell's handling of the camera placement incident was appropriate and Kraft's failure to support BB's explanation was justified. I consider that to be the first step on the road of destruction of the Pats reputation by Kraft which has continued to this day. It is your right to join Kraft in putting the commissioner and the League ahead of the team and its fans. As for the pictures of BB and Kraft, sometimes you have to take pictures with the man who signs your checks. What I don't understand is the multitude of pictures of Kraft hugging Goodell as he gets screwed.

shmessy · Jun 19, 2015

flasox27 said:
Apparently you are one of the people who thinks that Goodell's handling of the camera placement incident was appropriate and Kraft's failure to support BB's explanation was justified. I consider that to be the first step on the road of destruction of the Pats reputation by Kraft which has continued to this day. It is your right to join Kraft in putting the commissioner and the League ahead of the team and its fans. As for the pictures of BB and Kraft, sometimes you have to take pictures with the man who signs your checks. What I don't understand is the multitude of pictures of Kraft hugging Goodell as he gets screwed.

You must have been overseas in 2007. Belichick never put up any argument whatsoever and merely said he misinterpreted the rule. Kraft had nothing from Belichick to undercut.

And your explanation of "sometimes you have to take pictures with the man who signs your checks" is ridiculous. You HAVE heard of Bill Belichick, no? This is the most sought after coach in ANY sport in the United Statea of America. Bar none. Are you actually going to write on this forum to the thousands of members here who know better that Belichick had no recourse to other options in going to other teams for the last 8 years??????

Are you actually going to try to claim that Belichick has been tied to Kraft for the last 8 years against his will?

He has been here and continues here because he appreciates Kraft just as much as Kraft appreciates him. You don't think other teams (hi Danny, hi Jerruh) would offer him more money???

flasox27 · Jun 19, 2015

shmessy said:
You must have been oversees in 2007. Belichick never put up any argument whatsoever and merely said he misinterpreted the rule. Kraft had nothing from Belichick to undercut.

And your explanation of "sometimes you have to take pictures with the man who signs your checks" is ridiculous. You HAVE heard of Bill Belichick, no? This is the most sought after coach in ANY sport in the United Statea of America. Bar none. Are you actually going to write on this forum to the thousands of members here who know better that Belichick had no recourse to other options in going to other teams for the last 8 years??????

Are you actually going to try to claim that Belichick has been tied to Kraft for the last 8 years against his will?

He has been here and continues here because he appreciates Kraft just as much as Kraft appreciates him. You don't think other teams (hi Danny, hi Jerruh) would offer himore money?????

Don't you remember the Kraft's good buddy Goodell put a gag order on the Pats that Kraft was more than happy to enforce and required BB to apologize. Perhaps you didn't hear BB's response to the question by Curran this year concerning the camera placement incident. He didn't sound like a man who agreed with the punishment. I will concede that neither you nor I know the motivations of BB. Maybe being working with a championship caliber team with a HOF quarterback appealed to him rather than starting over. Maybe BB is a man who shows loyalty to a team unlike the man who owns it. I will also grant that the term throwing BB under the bus was incorrect . It should have read throwing the team and its fans under the bus which is much more appropriate.Since this incident was the beginning of the destruction of the Pats reputation for which Kraft has been an ongoing participant in his support of the POS.

shmessy · Jun 19, 2015

flasox27 said:
Don't you remember the Kraft's good buddy Goodell put a gag order on the Pats that Kraft was more than happy to enforce and required BB to apologize. Perhaps you didn't hear BB's response to the question by Curran this year concerning the camera placement incident. He didn't sound like a man who agreed with the punishment. I will concede that neither you nor I know the motivations of BB. Maybe being working with a championship caliber team with a HOF quarterback appealed to him rather than starting over . Maybe working for someone who is interested in the welfare of 31 other teams was attractive to him. I will also grant that the term throwing BB under the bus was incorrect . It should have read throwing the team and its fans under the bus which is much more appropriate.Since this incident was the beginning of the destruction of the Pats reputation for which Kraft has been an ongoing participant in his support of the POS.

There was no gag order. That is a figment of your imagination.

BB had a full national TV sit down about his view of Spygate with Armen Ketayian on CBS' 60 Minutes after the season.

How is that a "gag order"?

RelocatedPatFan · Jun 19, 2015

Joker said:
The ones who have to fight back are US, Patriot fans.

Goodell uses absolute prevarications as "evidence". We should do the same.He has brought shame and anguish into OUR lives with contempt for us and our families. We should show him the exact same contempt.

Be interesting drive for him into Foxboro. He'll probably request armed security or a helicopter ride into the stadium.

flasox27 · Jun 19, 2015

shmessy said:
There was no gag order. That is a figment of your imagination.

BB had a full national TV sit down about his view of Spygate with Armen Ketayian on CBS' 60 Minutes after the season.

How is that a "gag order"?

Per haps you failed to remember that the Pats were forbidden to speak about it during the season per Goodell and Kraft under the threat of further punishment Do you really think BB would not have told what was on the tapes that Goodell destroyed or that many teams especially the Jets did the same thing or explained that it had nothing to do with cheating but only placement of the camera, if he was allowed to speak freely. Obviously you and I have different definitions of a gag order. We have had our discussions before and I know you have an unshakeable belief in Kraft and his actions which I don't share. That is your perogative.

Wax Frog · Jun 19, 2015

flasox27 said:
What I don't understand is the multitude of pictures of Kraft hugging Goodell as he gets screwed.

In before reference to Stockholm Syndrome

flasox27 · Jun 19, 2015

Wax Frog said:
In before reference to Stockholm Syndrome

Kraft is brainwashed like the Manchurian candidate. He just needs Goodell to whisper "it's good for the shield" and he complies.

RobertWeathers · Jun 19, 2015

Wax Frog said:
In before reference to Stockholm Syndrome

...as in Helsinki, Sweden.

Reports: Brady wants entire suspension removed, and is seeking to be fully exonerated

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