Globe looks stupid, again

50-yard-line said:

TOM BRADY PAID 170G TO SPEAK AT SALEM STATE

- Herald headline, June 17

Very nasty article:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/19/state-school-paid-tom-brady-170k-to-speak/

The lede:

Salem State University paid New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady $170,000 for his speech at the school last month. All the money stuffed in the Super Bowl MVP’s pocket still could not get the quarterback to open his mouth much on the subject on everybody’s mind.

And here's a GREAT bit of reasoning, right?

"Based on the school’s listed tuition and fees, which run about $15,000 for in-state students, $170,000 could pay for a free ride for 11 local commuter students over the course of the coming school year."

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Yeah the report is released a day before when the event was planned months in advance and he had to stand up and talk about it ?

shmessy said:

After all expenses and Brady's payment, Salem State netted $40,000.

Without this event, they would have netted nothing.

Some folks at the Globe intend to keep public poor and on the plantation.

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That would be great. As someone who works with university budgets, I'd say that would be fantastic. But an arena selling $10 tix for students, $25 general seating, $40 and $50 for up front tix, and 4000 seats, would have to go a very long way to net $180k (not to mention all the support marketing, salaries, etc.) We have our own series at a much bigger school with 6.5k seating and we charge more for tix, and we're bringing the experiment to an end. As for endowments, they are fungible and dedicated. When we get endowment money, one of the first moves we make is to offset the annual amount to whatever department is meant to receive it. Most endowment money is encumbered and does not sit in the general fund. Translation: as long as you're using endowment money, you are essentially using public money.

Here's what I notice in Salem State's claims. They say they made a profit. AND they say the funds were taken from the endowment. That's a contradiction. If the series is self-supporting, it would have absolutely nothing to do with the endowment.

MitchKumstein said:

All Tom Brady ever wanted to do was to play football, win games and be the best quarterback that he could be.

He worked his @$$ of to get to where he is...the best QB in the history of the game

But it seems that living his dream has brought him nonstop false accusations, constant criticism, unjust punishment, no support from team ownership, and public mockery

Obviously he has also received accolades, millions of dollars and a supermodel wife, but I'm worried that Brady's going to reach the point where this this just isn't worth it anymore and he walks away

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I take comfort in the idea that Brady, BB etc don't pay nearly as much attention or care even a fraction as much as we fans do. I think things like this just pour more fuel onto that fire burning inside of him

Ivan said:

I used to buy both Boston papers every day but gave both up when they ran with the "Spygate" bullsh.t. and I have never gone back. Same goes for ESPN, I only turn it on when the Patriots are playing on it. And the same goes for the so called " news " channels, which are in fact just propaganda channels, F.ck all of them, life is much better without them.

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Yea I've only ever watched espn during Monday night football.. other than that I always watched the draft, etc on nfl networl.. but I'm torn now on canceling the NFLN... I'd have to crawl on my hands and knees to ESPN to get draft coverage

JMC00 said:

Apparently they were saying Brady was greedy for charging $170k for the Salem State speech. Being reported that Brady donated that to Best Buddies

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IDIOTS!!!!!!

vyrago said:

IDIOTS!!!!!!

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Isn't this the same paper that employs Ben Volin who, on several occasions, has let his mouth or computer keys outrun his brains??
Get your excrement together Globeys!!

oldrover said:

http://www.salemstatereasons.com/news-and-events/past-speakers/

Bill Clinton... Maya Angelou... Jimmy Carter... even George HW Bush... none ever had their fee mentioned.

But Brady... he deflated footballs.

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Come on. Clinton's fees get talked about ALL the time. I saw something just a week or two ago about it. Probably not GHW Bush, but I'm willing to bet that W gets talked about. Likely Carter too.

I get it that the newspaper article was atrocious and unfair to TB, but we don't need to make up an alternate reality to help defend him. Real reality is just fine.

upstater1 said:

That would be great. As someone who works with university budgets, I'd say that would be fantastic. But an arena selling $10 tix for students, $25 general seating, $40 and $50 for up front tix, and 4000 seats, would have to go a very long way to net $180k (not to mention all the support marketing, salaries, etc.) We have our own series at a much bigger school with 6.5k seating and we charge more for tix, and we're bringing the experiment to an end. As for endowments, they are fungible and dedicated. When we get endowment money, one of the first moves we make is to offset the annual amount to whatever department is meant to receive it. Most endowment money is encumbered and does not sit in the general fund. Translation: as long as you're using endowment money, you are essentially using public money.

Here's what I notice in Salem State's claims. They say they made a profit. AND they say the funds were taken from the endowment. That's a contradiction. If the series is self-supporting, it would have absolutely nothing to do with the endowment.

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Your post is downright Volinesque in misleading verbiage!

1) Where are you inventing this $180,000 net figure?

I wrote what the Globe reported. The event netted $40,000. There's a yawning gap between the net number that has been widely reported and the one you are now introducing.

2) Where in the world did you see that the ENDOWMENT was tapped for this?



You work with university budgets?????? Given how fast and loose you played with the numbers and facts here, that is a very scary thought.

Let's be careful out there.

TommyBrady12 said:

I didn't think that brady would keep that money for himself. He's not peyton.

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The story was always suspicious. Tom Brady is PR savy enough to avoid such land mines. The expression..."Don't sh*t where you eat" aptly applies here. Pocketing 6 figures from a local university would have have been bad form. Donating 6 figures to a local charity is Bradyesque.
Making the Globe look petty and incompetent......priceless.

shmessy said:

Your post is downright Volinesque in misleading verbiage!

1) Where are you inventing this $180,000 net figure?

I wrote what the Globe reported. The event netted $40,000. There's a yawning gap between the net number that has been widely reported and the one you are now introducing.

2) Where in the world did you see that the ENDOWMENT was tapped for this?



You work with university budgets?????? Given how fast and loose you played with the numbers and facts here, that is a very scary thought.

Let's be careful out there.

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Holy cow, stop frothing.
$180k isn't the net, but the payment to the speaker. Jeez.
The article said the money came from the university foundation (otherwise known as the endowment).

PatsWickedPissah said:

Endowment money not taxpayer. Heard on the radio that they made a $40K profit from selling tickets.

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But apparently that's not enough. "Tom and Gisele make like a Billion dollars a year" was one of the comments. "Why is he flying a helicopter?" was another. "He is so Greedy"

People are just ridiculous sometimes.

If they could a bigger house they would buy a bigger house. If they could afford a better car they would buy a better car.

If your the Greatest freaking QB to ever play the game you fly a helicopter. If they're so jealous of Brady because he can afford to fly a helicopter then they can go write a best selling book titled "How unfair it is that Brady has more than me and oh yeah, he cheats" and then go donate 170,000 to Salem State. Better yet why don't they just cover the tuitions of all attending students.

If anyone is greedy it's Volin because there are many out there who writes about football for free, and who does it way better than him.

upstater1 said:

Holy cow, stop frothing.
$180k isn't the net, but the payment to the speaker. Jeez.

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Nice try - - you distinctly wrote the word "net" next to the 180K.

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".......But an arena selling $10 tix for students, $25 general seating, $40 and $50 for up front tix, and 4000 seats, would have to go a very long way to net $180k (not to mention all the support marketing, salaries, etc.) ........"
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Sorry, but YOU used the word "net". The actual articles being discussed all stated that the event netted $40,000. The payment to the speaker is an expense, not a net. So why change the numbers being discussed?

As Uncle Rico showed in Post #15, many of the ticket holders were paying $100 each (not the $10, $25, $40 or $50 for upfront tix as you were using).

....and the payment to the speaker was $170,000 not $180,000.

You weren't even close to the ballpark with your numbers. That was Exponent-like ("Exponential"?)

Manning (DirecTV, MasterCard, Papa John's, Chevy, Sony, other garbage products that break under pressure), Rodgers (State Farm), and Brees (Wrangler) love filming commercials for free in their spare time.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Manning (DirecTV, MasterCard, Papa John's, Chevy, Sony, other garbage products that break under pressure), Rodgers (State Farm), and Brees (Wrangler) love filming commercials for free in their spare time.

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Evidently that's not as egregious as taking a fee for charity from a public university while making it $40,000 richer.

shmessy said:

Nice try - - you distinctly wrote the word "net" next to the 180K.

Post #42 (bold and underline mine):
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".......But an arena selling $10 tix for students, $25 general seating, $40 and $50 for up front tix, and 4000 seats, would have to go a very long way to net $180k (not to mention all the support marketing, salaries, etc.) ........"
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Sorry, but YOU used the word "net". The actual articles being discussed all stated that the event netted $40,000. The payment to the speaker is an expense, not a net. So why change the numbers being discussed?

As Uncle Rico showed in Post #15, many of the ticket holders were paying $100 each (not the $10, $25, $40 or $50 for upfront tix as you were using).

....and the payment to the speaker was $170,000 not $180,000.

You weren't even close to the ballpark with your numbers. That was Exponent-like ("Exponential"?)

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Go on believing fairy tales. I work inside this biz. The fact a foundation was mentioned at all tells you what you need to know.

Bruce Allen ‏@bruceallen 2h2 hours ago
Bruce Allen retweeted Yahoo Sports

Globe tried to make it out to be a money grab in which all he did was deflect questions about the Wells Report.

Bruce Allen added,


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Tom Brady donated a $170,000 speaking fee to charity. http://yhoo.it/1Lqc4k8


Sadly the media already has milked the 170000 story . Even PFT did saying brady was paid so mcuh but didnt say a word about deflategate. This news from the globe that he donated it to charity comes to late after PR damage has been done. Very similar to this whole deflating football story itself.

SVN said:

Even PFT did saying brady was paid so mcuh but didnt say a word about deflategate.

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Yet last year PFT said Manning was well within his right to charge $105k for speaking at Oklahoma St and probably should have charged more.