PatsFans.com Menu
PatsFans.com - The Hub For New England Patriots Fans

Sally Jenkins again hammers Goodell and Wells Report


Status
Not open for further replies.
Come on Aus, just say what we already know. Most of us PatsFans posters are smarter and way more on top of things :).
In all seriousness, on Deflategate some of the fairest and most thoughtful reporting on it has come from this board. Sure, we have seen plenty of homer posting too, however, considering we have understandable and obvious bias/motivation, it makes the lack of official reporting by a profession 'dedicated' to reporting/asking questions even more shameful (though being ashamed requires awareness -- the profession seems to completely lack 'professional' awareness).
It must be the Bahston edumucations ya'll get ;).

Following Deflategate has been more following collective idiocy more than anything. I like to think of myself as a reasonable and fair person who when presented with new and compelling evidence, is capable of making a rational judgement call to update and switch my position if necessary. Throughout this whole farce, I've said I'd be ok with the Patriots being punished if it was conclusively proven the organisation deliberately cheated. Instead, we've been treated to a circus, a carnival designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. The worst thing is, the frenzy isn't just isolated in the States, it's giving people something HERE to talk about. Evidently, Australian journalists are every bit as lazy and stupid as American journalists.

The most upsetting thing is I would never knowingly put my name to anything that had the potential to ruin the reputation of an organization or person without an extremely high confidence level. What we've seen is a race to see who can pump out the most **** as fast as possible to see what sticks without regard for the reputations of others. I hate the notion of generation now and how everything in society is working toward filling the 3-7 seconds you to capture someone's attention with rubbish.
 
Last edited:
It must be the Bahston edumucations ya'll get ;).

Following Deflategate has been more following collective idiocy more than anything. I like to think of myself as a reasonable and fair person who when presented with new and compelling evidence, is capable of making a rational judgement call to update and switch my position if necessary. Throughout this whole farce, I've said I'd be ok with the Patriots being punished if it was conclusively proven the organisation deliberately cheated. Instead, we've been treated to a circus, a carnival designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. The worst thing is, the frenzy isn't just isolated in the States, it's giving people something HERE to talk about. Evidently, Australian journalists are every bit as lazy and stupid as American journalists.

The most upsetting thing is I would never knowingly put my name to anything that had the potential to ruin the reputation of an organization or person without an extremely high confidence level. What we've seen is a race to see how can pump out the most **** as fast as possible to see what sticks without regard for the reputations of others. I hate the notion of generation now and how everything in society is working toward filling the 3-7 seconds you to capture someone's attention with rubbish.

That's disappointing to hear the same lack of journalistic professionalism is international. I don't seek out/read international news sites often -- but I had hoped this kind of thing might only be overwhelmingly prevalent in the US (I assumed it was there - just not to the U.S's. hyper-level).

When the target fits the 'optimally to be sold as the bad guy' bill, the more the assumption of guilt is treated as fact without question. I think that, largely, has always been the case. Yet when the facts supporting the case are this clearly questionable, I would have hoped the AEI report kicked some journalistic professionalism in -- with at least a solid few thoughtfully questioning the assumption of guilt. Since it hasn't happened at all (couple of exceptions noted) my expectation for a sliver of journalistic professionalism kicking in was embarrassingly foolish (though it could have been a 7n7 week :) fueling this)
 
Sally is, and has been her entire career, a journalist of integrity... The fact that she has been on the Patriots' and Brady's side in this from the beginning speaks volumes.

I would suggest that she was simply on the side of truth. The fact that Brady and the Patriots were always being truthful in their denials of wrongdoing is what led her to write on this issue as she has. As we've seen, most "journalists" and TV talking heads care less about the truth than the story and their (often ill-considered) opinions.
 
I always thought reporters tried... until 1991. OT: I ran a quick chess tournament. (G/15 if anyone knows what that means, and we are talking old style analog clocks with flags.) Reporter who showed up, played, and was there for the whole thing, did not just get it wrong, got it so absurdly wrong you wondered if she was ******ed or something.

Was it so bad that it can't be blamed on an idiotic copy-editor?

I have had a copy editor change something to the opposite of my meaning, under circumstances where a typical reporter wouldn't have had the opportunity to change it back.
 
Tom E. Curran ‏@tomecurran 2h2 hours ago
Tom E. Curran retweeted Bart Hubbuch

In what publications did their work appear relative to this issue? I'll hang up and listen.

Tom E. Curran added,

Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch
Right, because a right-wing "think tank" and Lance Armstrong apologist Sally Jenkins are such huge sources of heat. https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/611242580131627008…

Ahh our old friend Fart, the guy that thinks skinheads represent the average patriots fan.
 
Well, MSN online has her piece as one of the featured stories this morning. Click it.
 
Allowing those leaks to remain unaddressed when they had the correct data all along and even going as far as providing NE the numbers on the condition that they could not share them until the report came out is far worse than the simple existence of misinformation.

Since we cannot assume ignorance on Pash's part, we must conclude that he is deflecting.
That is how I interpret the NFLs behavior as well.
 
Exponent's report shredded and authors said to be imcompetent or worse. Curious that they remain silent.
 
Jeff Pash dismissed the leaks as "eventually the correct numbers was released and there was a lot of misinformation out there" to tom curran.

I think more than goodell, the nfl office set the pats up and had goodell forced to show his stupid self. They took advantage of an idiotic commish and boss.

Goodell is accountable for the actions of the NFL front office.........Pash can dismiss whatever he wants within the confines of the NFL, but as I said in another thread, in a larger world, this constitutes fraud and can't be dismissed
 
Exponent's report shredded and authors said to be imcompetent or worse. Curious that they remain silent.
They don't care, they did what they were paid to do. Jesus, the head guy couldn't come up with a single study they conducted that didn't support whoever was paying for it.
 
Felger is a provocateur, a contrarian, a troll.

It angers me almost as much as deflategate does that people still can't see Felger for what he is and continue to tune in to give him ratings and success.

Just go find some clips from the Comcast sports net post-superbowl show where he was with Ty Law, Dan Koppen and someone else... The Patriots just won the Superbowl in amazing fashion about 10 minutes earlier and everyone is smiling, etc... everyone except for 1 person... Felger.. who looked MISERABLE and just had a look on his face like he just saw a ghost or something.

He was genuinely irritated and upset that the Pats won the SB, because he knew it would be harder for him to spew all of his BS about the team and BB's decisions now that they won a 4th.

How anyone who calls themselves a Pats fan can listen to the sewage that comes out of that guys mouth is beyond me. He's a pathetic, weasely troll that DOES NOT LIKE the Patriots, even though the Pats are what has created and sustained his entire career.

STOP LISTENING TO THAT PIECE OF SH*T! For the love of God just excersize some discipline and stop making that guy more money! PLEASE!
 
Last edited:
Wells knew what he was doing in fabricating an investigation - he just did a very bad job of it because the overwhelming evidence SUPPORTED Brady... so when the "best recollection" of the official is that no deflation occurred, Wells and Goodell and Co. simply assert that the 25 year old NFL veteran official who's word they took earlier in the report became senile in the interim of his previous recollection

The AMAZING thing is that owners and fans alike are looking at these backflips of illogicity and mindlessly - or mindfully - nodding their heads in agreement... "yeah, that sounds about right!"

Either that or the NFL Competition Committee was able to quickly re-write the Laws of Physics

I jest but I believe Goodell thinks he has the power to do that!

When you think about it, Goodell does have that power, look at the majority result. True Pats fans and honest media which is about as rare as a Solar eclipse are emotionally invested enough to put in the time and the effort to find the Truth. Everyone else hears the sound bite and has a 20 minute climax equal to what they believe winning a Superbowl would feel like. We really do live in a culture which is sadly getting sicker and sicker with no cure in sight.
 
When you think about it, Goodell does have that power, look at the majority result. True Pats fans and honest media which is about as rare as a Solar eclipse are emotionally invested enough to put in the time and the effort to find the Truth. Everyone else hears the sound bite and has a 20 minute climax equal to what they believe winning a Superbowl would feel like. We really do live in a culture which is sadly getting sicker and sicker with no cure in sight.

and this is a huge part of why the NFL front office has such a low success rate when the issue leaves park avenue........the rest of our country does not do so well with the random nature of a dictatorship
 
Exponent's report shredded and authors said to be imcompetent or worse. Curious that they remain silent.
They've pocketed their dough and are merrily moving on down the avenue whistling their favorite tune - "Money" by Barrett Strong...
 
Exponent did what they were paid to do, try to make chicken soup using chicken sh@t.
 
Ironic that goodys was always saying we have to get it right no matter how long it takes, who knew getting it right meant railroading the Pats, integrity my ass Roger.
 
if goodell is terminated after all this, it might be all worth it.

Goodell won't be terminated. If he can survive the Ray Rice thing, he will survive this. There are millions of people who want him gone, but there are about 28-32 people (NFL owners) who want him to stay and those are the people who really only matter.
 
Exactly. I've been saying for years that the media is the prime culprit in everything wrong. They aren't journalists, they are paid shills to drive agendas. It's in politics, sports, financials etc. The media today TELLS you what to think rather than putting put facts and letting you decide. I partially blamed the 24/7 news cycle for these issues. However, I see the incredible lukewarm reaction to the Cardinals as proof that it is agenda driven.

For instance the only ones of consequence I keep in Boston would be Curran, Howe, Reiss, DHT, and thats about it. Bertrand was on my list until last night went he was laughing hysterically about the Cardinals and how it is no big deal. Outed himself as a fraud.
Winner, Winner chicken dinner!
Don't want to get too political but I get the feeling most of the media stands outside of Obama"s bathroom and discusses whether it smells like roses or lilacs, a scary thought when they portray themselves as guardians of the truth. I know for a fact that there is a McCarthy type of hysteria throughout New York about the Patriots that has spread throughout the country.
 
It angers me almost as much as deflategate does that people still can't see Felger for what he is and continue to tune in to give him ratings and success.


I stopped listening to the DB a few months ago when I noticed that he spent 3 weeks bashing the Patriots over Revis' departure after he spent about 2 days talking about the Super Bowl win.

However last week I was auto-scanning radio channels in my car when it landed on DBs show. Literally in the 4 seconds that my radio was on The Sports Hub I heard him say "...and the sooner that Brady accepts his 4 game suspension the better off the team will be for it..."

Why people still chose to listen to his shtick I'll never know
 
Status
Not open for further replies.


MORSE: Patriots Draft Needs and Draft Related Info
Friday Patriots Notebook 4/19: News and Notes
TRANSCRIPT: Eliot Wolf’s Pre-Draft Press Conference 4/18/24
Thursday Patriots Notebook 4/18: News and Notes
Wednesday Patriots Notebook 4/17: News and Notes
Tuesday Patriots Notebook 4/16: News and Notes
Monday Patriots Notebook 4/15: News and Notes
Patriots News 4-14, Mock Draft 3.0, Gilmore, Law Rally For Bill 
Potential Patriot: Boston Globe’s Price Talks to Georgia WR McConkey
Friday Patriots Notebook 4/12: News and Notes
Back
Top