Flynn at QB?

nabwong · Jun 12, 2015

All I can say is thank god Tebow is signed to another team.

DarrylS · Jun 12, 2015

Preparing and planning for every situation and contingency, is the real "Patriot Way"..... despite what the mediots want you to think.

tombonneau · Jun 12, 2015

BobDigital said:
That is an understatement. He is one of the true elite back up QBs.

If that were true he would not have been on his couch. I think he is a great QB3 and backup should Brady really miss time, but les not pretend he is some sort of elite backup just because he's a Pat now. He's merely serviceable vet with plenty of real experience.

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 12, 2015

tombonneau said:
If that were true he would not have been on his couch. I think he is a great QB3 and backup should Brady really miss time, but les not pretend he is some sort of elite backup just because he's a Pat now. He's merely serviceable vet with plenty of real experience.

He's the closest thing they could find to the 2006 Testaverde they brought in to mentor Cassel.

LJRomanoff · Jun 12, 2015

What concerns me about Flynn is that he's terrible whenever he's not wearing a Packers uniform. If you only look at his career in Green Bay, he's awesome. Everywhere else and he's a train wreck.

RobertWeathers · Jun 12, 2015

LJRomanoff said:
What concerns me about Flynn is that he's terrible whenever he's not wearing a Packers uniform. If you only look at his career in Green Bay, he's awesome. Everywhere else and he's a train wreck.

I don't think the numbers totally support your assertion.

In 2012 he backed-up Russell Wilson in SEA and barely played
He was with BUF but never saw the field
In 2013 he had one start w/ OAK and did fine for a backup (keep in mind....it was OAK)

BTTA · Jun 12, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
I'll leave it at "I can't, unless Goodell wants to prove the NFLPA right."

That's assuming he's acting rationally and thoughtfully. He will probably be controlled by the attorneys by then, but this entire episode is the result of him acting on one of the worst cases of executive immaturity I've ever seen.

BTTA · Jun 12, 2015

rochrist said:
Pretty sure you're wrong.

How can I be wrong when I'm simply thinking out loud about a possible scenario?

MassPats38 · Jun 12, 2015

Flynn has been a backup his entire career, even when on teams that had starting QB positions up for grabs.

Guys like Flutie and Testaverde were actual starting QBs before they went to the Pats. Flynn is a true backup QB - the sort you want on the pine other than in mop-up scenarios. If he is not camp fodder, then I hope he is the injury option to relieve JAG. Not a guy I'd want to see running the Pats offense anytime soon.

Kontradiction · Jun 12, 2015

robertweathers said:
He was outstanding on that Sunday night game in Foxboro a few years ago.

Their defense was pretty bad that year too. They lived and died off of turnovers. They had a bad pass rush and an underwhelming secondary.

RobertWeathers · Jun 12, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Their defense was pretty bad that year too. They lived and died off of turnovers. They had a bad pass rush and an underwhelming secondary.

Yep. IIRC GB was deep in Pats territory and Flynn got sacked and Wilfork recovered. Big play indeed.

That might have been the Dan Connolly 70 yd return game as well. Not sure though...

Kontradiction · Jun 12, 2015

robertweathers said:
Yep. IIRC GB was deep in Pats territory and Flynn got sacked and Wilfork recovered. Big play indeed.

That might have been the Dan Connolly 70 yd return game as well. Not sure though...

It was. And yes, Green Bay was driving for the lead late in the game and the Pats defense somehow mustered an uncharacteristic sack. A few weeks later, they made Sanchez look like Joe Montana as he knitted a sweater in the backfield, redirected Braylon Edwards, waited for Edwards to get open, then delivered the pass. I used to laugh when people defended that defense.

Patsfanin Philly · Jun 12, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
I should have been clearer: you need to prove damages in addition to proving that there was, in fact, defamation.

For example, let's just say, for the sake of argument, that an article in an obscure newspaper with a circulation of 75 defames a person. That person discovers the article shortly before the statute of limitations runs out; to the best of his knowledge, he had not suffered any harm as a result. He would have a hard time winning the suit and receiving damages, since he can't prove that he actually suffered any harm as a result of the defamation.

On the other hand, if the defamation constitutes defamation per se (for example, if they had falsely accused him of murder), he would not need to show that he suffered any harm; defamation per se is considered scandalous enough to warrant damages even in the absence of demonstrated harm.

We're in agreement. Defamation per se is considered so abhorrent as you write, you don't need to prove damages. It usually involves accusations of criminal activity, sexual misconduct (unchaste or having an STD) or a "person was involved in behavior incompatible with the proper conduct of his business, trade or profession ". That is the one that Brady would have to prove if he were to pursue it....

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 12, 2015

Patsfanin Philly said:
We're in agreement. Defamation per se is considered so abhorrent as you write, you don't need to prove damages. It usually involves accusations of criminal activity, sexual misconduct (unchaste or having an STD) or a "person was involved in behavior incompatible with the proper conduct of his business, trade or profession ". That is the one that Brady would have to prove if he were to pursue it....

Yeah, I don't think PSI is a loathsome disease.

chasa · Jun 12, 2015

robertweathers said:
Why would his absence from the team be longer than 4 games? What scenario do you envision unfolding for that to occur?

"Listen Tom, you can't sue the NFL!, I'm an owner, and if you sue the nfl its going to look back for the other 31. If you try and sue the league we are going to have to let you go Tom. Rodger told me if you sue the league then i wont be allowed at his cookout and saturday tom, please tom you are like a son to me don't sue the league!"

Brady sues the league,

Kraft forces BB to cut him.

Kraft releases a statement that It was because Tom was hurting the "team"

rochrist · Jun 12, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
He's the closest thing they could find to the 2006 Testaverde they brought in to mentor Cassel.

What?? Maybe he'd have to, I don't know, have some success himself as a starting QB before being anyone's 'mentor'. Testaverde had a 21 year career and started 233 games. Of the group of Matt Flynn, Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Cassal, Flynn has by far the lowest QBR over the past 8 years. In fact, it's the lowest of the 28 QBs who have played at least 50 games during that time span (per espn).

RobertWeathers · Jun 12, 2015

chasa said:
"Listen Tom, you can't sue the NFL!, I'm an owner, and if you sue the nfl its going to look back for the other 31. If you try and sue the league we are going to have to let you go Tom. Rodger told me if you sue the league then i wont be allowed at his cookout and saturday tom, please tom you are like a son to me don't sue the league!"

Brady sues the league,

Kraft forces BB to cut him.

Kraft releases a statement that It was because Tom was hurting the "team"

Its a scenario but I don't see that happening.

Dagg · Jun 12, 2015

We could do much worse than Flynn. This is a good signing for insurance purposes.

tasmlab · Jun 12, 2015

varjao said:
Sounds like insurance but BB has carried 3 QBs before, even 4. That could be the planning from the beggining with Brady starting the season at 38.

There was three QB's beside Brady in 2008. They may want three QBs on the roster who can be available for the first four weeks.

scout · Jun 12, 2015

Oh yea, then there is Matt's wife.

http://nesn.com/playlist/patriots-quarterback-matt-flynns-wife-is-a-former-miss-louisiana-photos/6/

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