Howe: Butler missed flight, held out first three weeks of practice

patriot1136 · Jun 10, 2015

I'm glad he's busy watching film, the more the better. Hope he takes Derek Cox with him.

BTTA · Jun 10, 2015

This isn't a punishment. It is a voluntary practice.
Coach has a rule that the players who show up on time get to practice on the field.
Two day delays for 1000 mile trips along high volume storm pathways are not unusual anymore. Get there early. Heck, get there a week ahead of time if you have to.
Yes, flights out of Atlanta were cancelled. He still apparently had 36 hours to get to camp. Even if there were no other flights out of any other southeastern seaboard city available, he still could have driven. He's a young guy...c'mon, most of us have done that.
Given all of this, the coach has a simple rule: he's not going to get caught up in interpretations for unexcused absences.

Patstopia · Jun 10, 2015

This is nothing more than BB "pointing out" to a rookie, that the 15 minutes of fame he has been living on this summer is now OVER. Time to get your head out of the clouds and back into the game!

BTTA · Jun 10, 2015

Patstopia said:
This is nothing more than BB "pointing out" to a rookie, that the 15 minutes of fame he has been living on this summer is now OVER. Time to get your head out of the clouds and back into the game!

While also allowing the others new to the team to take notice.

fnordcircle · Jun 10, 2015

Seems dumb and overboard to me, but I'm sometimes suspicious that Belichick knows more about how to run a team than me so I'll give him a pass.

Todd Bradley · Jun 10, 2015

This is "Question the GOAT Coach" bait and I can't even bother taking it.

Bill will do what Bill thinks is best for the team, and so be it.

mb6592 · Jun 10, 2015

letekro said:
Since BB is not an idiotic tyrant, there's more to the story.

Maybe it's just as simple as sometimes life isn't fair? I remember an ice storm forced a bridge closure and everybody on the wrong side of the bridge showed up late. It didn't matter, those who did were punished. Unfairly? Has nothing to do with it. After graduation, the instructor told us the reason for the punishment. - life isn't always fair - deal with it.

In football many bad/unfair calls are made against you, but you must maintain your composure, you must learn to deal with the adversity. Maybe this is BB's way of giving that lesson.

Jimke · Jun 10, 2015

fnordcircle said:
Seems dumb and overboard to me, but I'm sometimes suspicious that Belichick knows more about how to run a team than me so I'll give him a pass.

Is your picture of Brady a prediction as to what will happen when Goodell cuts Brady's suspension
to 2 games after he hears the appeal?

Ross12 · Jun 10, 2015

SVN said:
meanwhile howe is mad at volin which is awesome

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 8m8 minutes ago
Jeff Howe retweeted Dan Lifshatz

Still waiting for Tebow to make the team, or Slater to get cut, or some credit on the Hightower story...

Jeff Howe added,

Dan Lifshatz @DanLifshatz
BAR FIGHT @jeffphowe https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/608729587313471490

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 8m8 minutes ago
Seriously, get like one story right before you start calling people out.

Yes!!!!!

Ice_Ice_Brady · Jun 10, 2015

This has been an awesome offseason.

SVN · Jun 10, 2015

halise manza young ‏@shalisemyoung 9m9 minutes ago
source confirms @jeffphowe report on Malcolm Butler - weather-delayed flight got him to Boston late for 1st OTA, BB kept Butler off field

shalise manza young ‏@shalisemyoung 9m9 minutes ago
"tough lesson learned" source said...but Butler has been in all meetings/workouts and is back on-field this week

is it really that big a deal ?

Deus Irae · Jun 10, 2015

mb6592 said:
Maybe it's just as simple as sometimes life isn't fair? I remember an ice storm forced a bridge closure and everybody on the wrong side of the bridge showed up late. It didn't matter, those who did were punished. Unfairly? Has nothing to do with it. After graduation, the instructor told us the reason for the punishment. - life isn't always fair - deal with it.

In football many bad/unfair calls are made against you, but you must maintain your composure, you must learn to deal with the adversity. Maybe this is BB's way of giving that lesson.

That would be an incredibly stupid "lesson" to be teaching in this manner, so I hope you're wrong.

You figure sports leagues should teach this same lesson for the same reasons? Maybe a delay because of a vehicle incident should cost a team 14 points, or something? Maybe players should have to play outside in thunderstorms, or inside during a complete power outage....

Ivan · Jun 10, 2015

fnordcircle said:
Seems dumb and overboard to me, but I'm sometimes suspicious that Belichick knows more about how to run a team than me so I'll give him a pass.

Same here. Petty draconian but you have to give Belichick slack on anything like this. No one does a better job of getting their team ready and on the same page, and the ways in which Belichick manages discipline plays a role in that.

Fencer · Jun 10, 2015

raduray said:
Doug Kyed@DougKyedNESN
That's a good question.

Mike@patsfan71284
@DougKyedNESN @MikeGiardi how can u be punished for something that isn't mandatory?

Is this an issue for the NFLPA?

Yes, the OTAs are optional. But they're optional for the team as well. So what would prohibit the "punishment"?

Fencer · Jun 10, 2015

DarrylS said:
Of course you all remember Richard Seymour being a day late from his uncle's funeral a few years back, when he entered the game 13 plays into it.. he was a one man wrecking crew..

No one player is bigger than the team.. bet he will not be late again.

On the other hand, he seemed to never forgive BB.

Betterthanmost · Jun 10, 2015

Bulter and Spikes have helped made the coaching staff's job very easy. Very good candidates to choose to set the standards. Damn... That is too harsh. It is almost Goodell like punishment. So arbitrary.

Betterthanmost · Jun 10, 2015

Fencer said:
On the other hand, he seemed to never forgive BB.

That was a **** move on BB's part. He was wrong for that. There is a time for everything.

Fencer · Jun 10, 2015

JDot said:
3 weeks for a missed flight? What's he suppose to do? it's not the jetsons, he can't jump up and fly.

Sometimes, it is thought that guys should take some of their large salaries and use them to charter flights, should scheduled flights not be available.

Or he could have paid a friend to drive him while he slept in the car.

Maybe that's what the team expects in such situations (which is not the same thing as saying we agree that's what the team should expect).

Brady6 · Jun 10, 2015

Butler allowed a 124.6 QB rating last season. So I don't think holding him out of practice is the best move.

fgssand · Jun 10, 2015

Deus Irae said:
I sure the hell hope that there's more to the story. A 3 week practice ban because a guy's flight, scheduled to have the guy in town a day early, was cancelled due to weather, is ridiculous.

Seems to me everyone else was able to plan to be there on time........next time, leave a day early Malcolm.

To all of those questioning BB, really????

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