Cost of being a True Patriot

IcyPatriot · Jun 5, 2015

Clonamery said:
Politicians........

This story is so sad and pathetic on the NFL's part I am really surprised it has not blown open.

Not like they needed the extra income to stay in business ..........

Kontradiction · Jun 5, 2015

Tunescribe said:
All these years, I just assumed those "displays of honor" for the military were patriotic initiatives by the Patriots. Now we learn they're paid for. And on top of it, the NFL markets its "salute to service" gear every season.

Not to mention pink jerseys, shirts, hats, etc. in the month of October while they allow guys like Ray Rice to knock his fiancee out cold in an elevator while they try to bury the story. Because integrity is what matters, right?

FirstAndGoal · Jun 5, 2015

Speaking as a Vet and a DAV, I can tell you that the expenditures are to get people to join. Want to honor a vet? For me, saying "Thanks for your service" makes a lot of us feel uncomfortable. I know you mean well but thank us by realizing what you have and live good lives. Thank us by funding the programs we need when we get out and hold Washington's feet to the fire when they don't.

The problem is that when you've done your service and the parade is over, the many are left to pick up the pieces of their lives and although there's nothing wrong with the recognition, the ones in the stands who served, know that the military isn't honoring us. They're raising their profile.

When friends can't get a 5, 000 dollar medical procedure paid for when it's a service related injury, the insult of that cancels 100 parades honoring us and degrades us. I've fired rounds that cost more than 10,000 each time I pulled the trigger.

I remember my father, a WWII vet broke his back when he was blown off the deck of his LST and although he slept on the floor most nights because his back hurt him and he stood the table when he ate because his back hurt him too much to sit for more than a few minutes. When his back got worse, he tried for years to raise his disability so he could get some extra medical attention but they rejected him each time until he was about 80. They finally signed off on it and I remember this clear as day. The rep. told us that they likely gave it to him because they figured he would be dead soon so it wasn't worth them fighting it anymore.... sad, but true.

Most of us don't wear veteran hats, have stickers on our cars, or vanity plates. Most of us just want to get back to our lives and appreciate what we have and what we lost. We're proud of our service but we've long ago lost our romantic attachments to the ceremonies. Our appreciation is personal and unshakable no matter how we're treated.

RobertWeathers · Jun 5, 2015

FirstAndGoal said:
Speaking as a Vet and a DAV, I can tell you that the expenditures are to get people to join. Want to honor a vet? For me, saying "Thanks for your service" makes a lot of us feel uncomfortable. I know you mean well but thank us by realizing what you have and live good lives. Thank us by funding the programs we need when we get out and hold Washington's feet to the fire when they don't.

The problem is that when you've done your service and the parade is over, the many are left to pick up the pieces of their lives and although there's nothing wrong with the recognition, the ones in the stands who served, know that the military isn't honoring us. They're raising their profile.

When friends can't get a 5, 000 dollar medical procedure paid for when it's a service related injury, the insult of that cancels 100 parades honoring us and degrades us when. I've fired rounds that cost more than 10,000 each time I pulled the trigger.

I remember my father, a WWII vet broke his back when he was blown off the deck of his LST and although he slept on the floor most nights because his back hurt him and he stood the table when he ate because his back hurt him too much to sit for more than a few minutes. When his back got worse, he tried for years to raise his disability so he could get some extra medical attention but they rejected him each time until he was about 80. They finally signed off on it and I remember this clear as day. The rep. told us that they likely gave it to him because they figured he would be dead soon so it wasn't worth them fighting it anymore.... sad, but true.

Most of us don't wear veteran hats, have stickers on our cars, or vanity plates. Most of us just want to get back to our lives and appreciate what we have and what we lost. We're proud of our service but we've long ago lost our romantic attachments to the ceremonies. Our appreciation is personal and unshakable no matter how we're treated.

Your post was very powerful. Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate and have a great amount of respect and admiration for your perspective.

I am very guilty of thanking military service men/woman

. I do mean it as my father was in Vietnam and was never thanked. For those like him who's sacrifice was not respected and acknowledged really bothers me. Not sure I can change but you have given me a lot to think about.

Thank you.

Kontradiction · Jun 5, 2015

FirstAndGoal said:
Speaking as a Vet and a DAV, I can tell you that the expenditures are to get people to join. Want to honor a vet? For me, saying "Thanks for your service" makes a lot of us feel uncomfortable. I know you mean well but thank us by realizing what you have and live good lives. Thank us by funding the programs we need when we get out and hold Washington's feet to the fire when they don't.

The problem is that when you've done your service and the parade is over, the many are left to pick up the pieces of their lives and although there's nothing wrong with the recognition, the ones in the stands who served, know that the military isn't honoring us. They're raising their profile.

When friends can't get a 5, 000 dollar medical procedure paid for when it's a service related injury, the insult of that cancels 100 parades honoring us and degrades us when. I've fired rounds that cost more than 10,000 each time I pulled the trigger.

I remember my father, a WWII vet broke his back when he was blown off the deck of his LST and although he slept on the floor most nights because his back hurt him and he stood the table when he ate because his back hurt him too much to sit for more than a few minutes. When his back got worse, he tried for years to raise his disability so he could get some extra medical attention but they rejected him each time until he was about 80. They finally signed off on it and I remember this clear as day. The rep. told us that they likely gave it to him because they figured he would be dead soon so it wasn't worth them fighting it anymore.... sad, but true.

Most of us don't wear veteran hats, have stickers on our cars, or vanity plates. Most of us just want to get back to our lives and appreciate what we have and what we lost. We're proud of our service but we've long ago lost our romantic attachments to the ceremonies. Our appreciation is personal and unshakable no matter how we're treated.

Excellent post. You can always get a firm grasp on the moral fiber of a society by looking at how they treat their poor, combat veterans, and mentally ill. As a society, the United States is 0 for 3 these days.

FirstAndGoal · Jun 5, 2015

robertweathers said:
Your post was very powerful. Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate and have a great amount of respect and admiration for your perspective.

I am very guilty of thanking military service men/woman . I do mean it as my father was in Vietnam and was never thanked. For those like him who's sacrifice was not respected and acknowledged really bothers me. Not sure I can change but you have given me a lot to think about.

Thank you.

There's nothing to feel guilty about and lots of guys are comfortable with saying "thanks". I'm going to have some Vets come down on me now for saying that (lol). I'm just saying that if people care about Vets, then figure out what's what is really going on in the community.

Tunescribe · Jun 5, 2015

KontradictioN said:
Not to mention pink jerseys, shirts, hats, etc. in the month of October while they allow guys like Ray Rice to knock his fiancee out cold in an elevator while they try to bury the story. Because integrity is what matters, right?

The NFL's breast cancer awareness campaign is a self-congratulatory sham. Not a penny of the money raised through pink gear sales goes to cancer research. It has more to do with pandering to women saying, "Hey look -- we 'care' about you. Please buy our gear, watch our games and patronize our advertisers."

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-nfls-pink-october-does-not-raise-money-for-cancer-research

fair catch fryar · Jun 5, 2015

IcyPatriot said:
This story is so sad and pathetic on the NFL's part I am really surprised it has not blown open.

Not like they needed the extra income to stay in business ..........

Not surprising when you have the Patriots to splay open over 1.0 lbs of air pressure.

RobertWeathers · Jun 5, 2015

Tunescribe said:
The NFL's breast cancer awareness campaign is a self-congratulatory sham. Not a penny of the money raised through pink gear sales goes to cancer research. It has more to do with pandering to women saying, "Hey look -- we 'care' about you. Please buy our gear, watch our games and patronize our advertisers."

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-nfls-pink-october-does-not-raise-money-for-cancer-research

Not only that, the program that the claim to support has been proven not to reduce breast cancer rates.

MitchKumstein · Jun 5, 2015

Koma said:
I knew this sounded familiar. It will be interesting to see how much attention this month old story gets now that the Patriots are attached to it.

In the CNN article about it, the Patriots are the first team mentioned.

"In a statement, the senators said the National Guard paid NFL teams nearly $7 million for marketing and advertising over the last 3 years, including $675,000 to the New England Patriots, which included the team's "True Patriot" promotion. .."

That's the way its going to be from now on. Whenever a negative story is written about the NFL, the Patriots will be mentioned to help spread the anger.

Patsfanin Philly · Jun 5, 2015

MitchKumstein said:
In the CNN article about it, the Patriots are the first team mentioned.

"In a statement, the senators said the National Guard paid NFL teams nearly $7 million for marketing and advertising over the last 3 years, including $675,000 to the New England Patriots, which included the team's "True Patriot" promotion. .."

That's the way its going to be from now on. Whenever a negative story is written about the NFL, the Patriots will be mentioned to help spread the anger.

When you wear the black hat AND are the defending champ, it is understandable. I don't like it (especially where the original article had 16 other teams but not the Pats)taking money....
I'd love to see some journalist go as Edward Murrow/Joseph Welsh did to Joe McCarthy on the Commissioner for letting it happen on his watch,
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

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IcyPatriot

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RobertWeathers

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Kontradiction

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Tunescribe

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fair catch fryar

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RobertWeathers

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