DAN MARINO ON MFB: ‘MY PERCEPTION OF [TOM BRADY] IS HE’S ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS AT THAT POSITIO

PatsFanSince74 said:

Not all that surprising when you think about it. I'm way too cynical to think that Marino is doing this out of any sense of "justice" and certainly not out of the goodness of his heart.

Aikman and Montana have both been critical of Brady throughout this farce, but they both hang their hats primarily on their SB wins and SB MVP's for their reputation and so are competing with him for recognition in that area. So, they are taking this as a chance to tear him down.

Marino relies for his reputation on his stats, where Brady, in a sense, isn't competing with him. So, Marino has no big stake in tearing him down. In fact, by building Brady up a bit, Marino helps his own case against the guys who played closer to his time.

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I really don't think that Marino needs any help from me, but I did see his entire career. He was so good that he makes most top tens even though he never won a title. I'd take him over any QB playing today except for Brady.

I know some might think I'm joking but I'm dead serious about one other thing. Dan Marino lost out when he went to one of the worst clutch coaches of all time, Don Shula. I don't think any HC in the history of the NFL has done less with more than Don Shula.

Shula coached for 32 years and for almost all of those years he had either Johnny Unitas, Bob Griese or Dan Marino, with a little Earl Morrall thrown in. And in all that time he won two titles, and those only came after he cheated to get to Miami.

He also coached a Baltimore Colts team that won multiple titles before and after he arrived, but none during his time there. The only time his Baltimore team made it to the SB they lost to, get this, the Jets. No really, they did.

All of that in spite of being on the competition committee and starting the Polian trend of rule changing that is more common today. You could say that Shula invented the strategy of changing rules to help his team.

Marino doesn't work for the networks anymore, go figure......

Marino was the Brady of his day in two other respects.

1. No one could move around the pocket better than he could, and that probably includes Brady, and Marino was even more immobile than Brady, especially when he was constantly wearing a boot on his plant leg.

2. Marino played with a bunch of receivers who he made great, but these guys probably would not have gotten much run elsewhere. Clayton was Deion Branch but with a lot more longevity while Duper was just a straight line fast guy. Marino turned average talents into stars.

Dan U da Man!

DarrylS said:

There is no statistical difference for Brady effectiveness at home (balls controlled by Pats Staff) and on the road ( balls controlled by the home team)... that alone is one of the most telling facts of this case.

Still need to pinch myself that this has gotten as big as it has, as in reality it is much ado about nothing... think there is silence among many current QB's as they do not want to suffer the wrath of Roger...

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There was a recent post showing all QBs in leagues home and away stats. If someone could let me know how i can find that i would appreciate it. i can not remember the name or the title. TY

1960Pats said:

It was amazing the way a pass rusher would come in untouched and Marino would still get his passes away with accuracy, even the longer passes. The guy was great.

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Marino seemed bigger in person. I'm in Delta Crown Room in the 90s and Dan and smurfs are there. Being a wise ass I go over to talk **** about Pats Just then Dan stands up looming much bigger than I thought. So I chickened. Out Kraft style and walked on by

PatsWickedPissah said:

Marino seemed bigger in person. I'm in Delta Crown Room in the 90s and Dan and smurfs are there. Being a wise ass I go over to talk **** about Pats Just then Dan stands up looming much bigger than I thought. So I chickened. Out Kraft style and walked on by

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At least you didn't also proceed to bend over like our owner

What happened in.the Crown room stays in the Crown room

Jackson 2 said:

Please don't put words in my mouth. I never described it as disgraceful. I said he was not as gracious as some seem to think. I also said I understood and would likely have reacted the same way.

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Wow apologies, I just reread it and have no idea how I interpreted that as disgraceful lol

JarOfMayo51 said:

Wow apologies, I just reread it and have no idea how I interpreted that as disgraceful lol

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Jar, no apologies necessary, but thanks. I didn't intend in any way to denigrate Bledsoe. I think his reaction was very human and understandable. I like Drew now and I did then.

upstater1 said:

It's pretty clear that Brady would not handle a demotion well either.

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Tom Brady was the starter during his junior year at Michigan. He was demoted to part-time player his senior year when Drew Henson burst on the scene. How did he handle that demotion? According to his coach, he went out and did his best. Not sure what information you have that says Brady would react any differently now than he did then.

TruthSeeker said:

Tom Brady was the starter during his junior year at Michigan. He was demoted to part-time player his senior year when Drew Henson burst on the scene. How did he handle that demotion? According to his coach, he went out and did his best. Not sure what information you have that says Brady would react any differently now than he did then.

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I could pull a half dozen quotes from Brady himself, but I don't have the interest in extending this.

upstater1 said:

Marino was the Brady of his day in two other respects.

1. No one could move around the pocket better than he could, and that probably includes Brady, and Marino was even more immobile than Brady, especially when he was constantly wearing a boot on his plant leg.

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In terms of navigating around the pocket, Montana was in his league but was also more athletic. Marino had that 6th sense and lightning quick release.

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2. Marino played with a bunch of receivers who he made great, but these guys probably would not have gotten much run elsewhere. Clayton was Deion Branch but with a lot more longevity while Duper was just a straight line fast guy. Marino turned average talents into stars.

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Yep. Dan's issue is that Shula did very little to help him offensively. Below average running games. Horrible defenses. Really didn't have that top-level offensive talent surrounding him throughout his career. Duper and Clayton were very good but once the late 80s and the 90s rolled around, he'd have good talent one year and very average receivers the year after.

TruthSeeker said:

He was demoted to part-time player his senior year when Drew Henson burst on the scene.

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IIRC, TB started EVERY game that year. Drew got rotated in for some possessions, but it was not a 50-50 time share or even close

found it...about a 3/1 split:
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/michigan/1999.html

for the year
Tom Brady 180-295 passing, 2217 yds
Drew Henson 46-89 passing, 546 yds