In His Sick Mind, Fixing Games and the Draft is OK because of Parity.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

Yes, having the worst draft pick, a salary cap and whatever scheduling advantages exist [though I'm not sure easy schedules for losers still happens] are all meant to foster "parity."

By this strategy, winning teams get older and less talented, while lousy teams have all the young and prime talent and become competitive.

Whether this makes for better games or not is debatable. I like to see the absolute best teams, not the least crappy that year, but I'm all right with a slightly tilted field because the cream usually rises to the top anyway. New york conspiracies aside, and i don't rule them out, It seems goodell, seeing we have one of the youngest, most talented teams and the best quarterback and coach. Has decided to...

Fix games by disabling our quarterback and fix the draft by, well, fixing the draft.

There is no appeal, there is no fair play or reason. The Patriots will be disabled bit by bit until they can't out compete other teams that already have every league mandated advantage.

The only force in football capable of taking on this Spanish inquisition is the players association, which makes me wonder why goodell is doing this and whether he'll just fold so he doesn't have to take on the union.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

Competitive balance was evident in 2010 with two small-market franchises represented in the Super Bowl. For the 15th consecutive season, at least five teams made the playoffs that did not advance the year before.

“There are systems that we have to make sure that we maintain,” said Goodell. “When you come into a season, every fan thinks that their football team has a chance to win the Super Bowl and that’s what I believe the 32 clubs are working towards. There are several issues that need to be addressed (regarding competitive balance) in (negotiating) this Collective Bargaining Agreement.”

and when the systems don't work and a young dynasty seems possible? [with a qb that looks and acts like he's 18]

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/articl...e-Parity/eebe6aca-6e49-4f96-a903-bcf8022fc480

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...zed-dream-of-parity-has-given-every-fan-hope/

Every team must have hope, but if some are truly hopeless, we must destroy those teams that dare win and reload despite all the disadvantages built in already.

PatsFanInVa · May 31, 2015

I'm telling ya dude, Rollerball.

Patstopia · May 31, 2015

Well, if we must talk conspiracy, how about the refs over inflating the balls at the Jets game? Why was the one game the balls get overinflated at, is against the team Goodell has a "Woody" for!

RayClay · May 31, 2015

Patstopia said:
Well, if we must talk conspiracy, how about the refs over inflating the balls at the Jets game? Why was the one game the balls get overinflated at, is against the team Goodell has a "Woody" for!

I guess when you've crossed the line of fixing games and the draft to hurt teams, why not help yours? Where are our draft picks for tampering?

tuckeverlasting · May 31, 2015

RayClay said:
Yes, having the worst draft pick, a salary cap and whatever scheduling advantages exist [though I'm not sure easy schedules for losers still happens] are all meant to foster "parity."

By this strategy, winning teams get older and less talented, while lousy teams have all the young and prime talent and become competitive.

Whether this makes for better games or not is debatable. I like to see the absolute best teams, not the least crappy that year, but I'm all right with a slightly tilted field because the cream usually rises to the top anyway. New york conspiracies aside, and i don't rule them out, It seems goodell, seeing we have one of the youngest, most talented teams and the best quarterback and coach. Has decided to...

Fix games by disabling our quarterback and fix the draft by, well, fixing the draft.

There is no appeal, there is no fair play or reason. The Patriots will be disabled bit by bit until they can't out compete other teams that already have every league mandated advantage.

The only force in football capable of taking on this Spanish inquisition is the players association, which makes me wonder why goodell is doing this and whether he'll just fold so he doesn't have to take on the union.

this is what i've been saying to my friends forever. just like stern fixing nba games with the refs and fixing the draft so it benefits ny and hurts boston. what do goodell and stern have in common besides being corrupt, lying hypocrits. both born and bred new yorkers. raised to love their ny teams and despise boston teams. i can not stand the new nba and i'm about to drop the new nyfl.

RayClay · Jun 1, 2015

I do wonder if the giants or jets [guffaw] were to put together a few good teams in a row. I betcha parity would go out the window then.

I think we just have to accept that there's no fair deal or appeal available to eliminate this fix. The NFLPA. on the other hand, has the standing, the track record and the incentive to use Brady's case to rip apart the relationship with the owners in their favor, which is why I absolutely think goodell might come up with some excuse to eliminate the 4 game suspension for fear the union and Brady could take this all the way to the courts.

Aßßynormal · Jun 1, 2015

Why isn't this criminal?

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 1, 2015

Aßßynormal said:
Why isn't this criminal?

IANAL, but part of the problem with sports leagues and the law is that a league with a draft must, in a sense, incorporate collusion normally prohibited by anti-trust law.

I'm not saying that what Goodell has done is justifiable either morally or legally, merely that it's a question that our lawyerly colleagues will have to address.

FCB02062 · Jun 1, 2015

I'm a big "the NFL is out to f#ck the Pats guy" and have been since 03-04 when it was clear the NFL and their media Jezebels openly fellated P Manning.
Back then and up to now I closely look at the NFL schedules - here's how the Pats get screwed.
The Patriots almost always have more stacked against em schedule-wise...playing more teams coming off byes, more teams w extra rest, more instances of 2/3 or 3/4 road games, shirt weeks, opening and closing on the road....
Goodell can't screw the pats w the opponents but he can with the timing and placement of the opponents

RayClay · Jun 1, 2015

Aßßynormal said:
Why isn't this criminal?

They are a private club of 32 member teams. As the poster above states, they have an anti-trust exemption and have given their commissioner dictatorial powers.

That's why Kraft appealing has no bite. He's one of 32 who agreed to give unlimited powers to meat head.

On the other hand, the NFLPA is an adversarial union to the NFLs management. If they start tugging at the legal thread through brady's appeal, and maybe lawsuit, they could challenge the anti-trust exemption, the salary cap, and the collective bargaining agreement which could put the league in a whole pile of snit.

Who says the league can legally prevent a player from making what the market says just because there's some artifical cap? OK by the private club, but as a citizen of the United states, probably unconstitutional. [wage fixing is illegal. 32 teams colluding to limit wages and mobility is illegal]

All of this only works because the union agreed to give up their rights to be in this "club." This is why Brady's appeal is the only one that matters. It carries much clout through the union.

livinginthe past · Jun 1, 2015

I've been on this bandwagon since the deflategate nonsense caught fire.

It all makes too much sense.

Football is an entertainment-based business product.

The best way to sell the product to as many people as possible is to give the idea that all 32 teams have a shot at winning the Superbowl, or at least winning their division once in awhile.

The Patriots have refused to buckle under the weight of the drive for parity.

On a positive note, this has added an extra layer of awesomeness to what the Patriots have achieved over the last 14 years - they have repeatedly bested, not just the odds, but the enforcement of parity.

DarrylS · Jun 1, 2015

Goodell is the typical large corp head, who has attained more and more power. So much so he becomes confused about his role and is influenced by his inner circle. Unfortunately along the way the owners have given him more power as he has generated more money..

The pendulum swings, and sooner rather than later it will come around... perhaps here, but probably someone in his inner office will run their mouths to the wrong person..

The recent incident by the Pats, got completely blown out of proportion as did the camera fiasco in the past.. Goodell's inability to control forces has compromised his ability to reign in the power.. the report indicates that "Brady did not cooperate", why would he have to turn over his private cellphone as McNally and Jeremsky turned into their Patriots Cell Phones... what more information could they possibly want..

The perverse result of unintended consequences.. as best we can tell he did not address the information that was leaked to Kravitz, Mort et al... that will be confusing to his minions and only embolden them to do more stupid things.. the clock ticks...

YOUGOTMOSSED · Jun 1, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
IANAL, but part of the problem with sports leagues and the law is that a league with a draft must, in a sense, incorporate collusion normally prohibited by anti-trust law.

I'm not saying that what Goodell has done is justifiable either morally or legally, merely that it's a question that our lawyerly colleagues will have to address.

If the league somehow losses it's anti-trust status over this I will feel vindicated. NYFL has entered the NBA/WWF zone to me-too ridiculous to take seriously, so I'd like nothing better than to see the greedy/selfish owners who ruined the sport take the financial hit as the sport blows up from government intervention and concussion litigation.

RayClay · Jun 1, 2015

DarrylS said:
Goodell is the typical large corp head, who has attained more and more power. So much so he becomes confused about his role and is influenced by his inner circle. Unfortunately along the way the owners have given him more power as he has generated more money..

The pendulum swings, and sooner rather than later it will come around... perhaps here, but probably someone in his inner office will run their mouths to the wrong person..

The recent incident by the Pats, got completely blown out of proportion as did the camera fiasco in the past.. Goodell's inability to control forces has compromised his ability to reign in the power.. the report indicates that "Brady did not cooperate", why would he have to turn over his private cellphone as McNally and Jeremsky turned into their Patriots Cell Phones... what more information could they possibly want..

The perverse result of unintended consequences.. as best we can tell he did not address the information that was leaked to Kravitz, Mort et al... that will be confusing to his minions and only embolden them to do more stupid things.. the clock ticks...

I don't think there was any "incident." To this day, I'm reading that D'qwell Jackson made the interception, then told the coaches that the ball seemed under inflated. If you recall, he denied ever saying any such thing.

so, there was no "incident." there was a sting operation by two embarrassed loser teams and the league.

Until Jackson gets it back, though, he at least wants to make something very clear: He did not intend to prompt the investigation. Jackson says he actually did not even know the ball was taken or that the controversy existed until he was being driven home from the team's charter plane after the Colts had arrived in Indianapolis.

"I wouldn't know how that could even be an advantage or a disadvantage," Jackson said. "I definitely wouldn't be able to tell if one ball had less pressure than another."

Jackson also said he holds no bitter feelings toward the Patriots -- nor does he feel his team was cheated -- if indeed New England deliberately deflated the footballs.

"It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game," Jackson said. "They outplayed us. We didn't match their intensity. I don't feel slighted at all personally. They created turnovers, they ran the ball on us. They won that game because of their intensity -- not the pressure of a football."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ckson-i-didnt-know-football-had-less-pressure

Patsfanin Philly · Jun 1, 2015

RayClay said:
I don't think there was any "incident." To this day, I'm reading that D'qwell Jackson made the interception, then told the coaches that the ball seemed under inflated. If you recall, he denied ever saying any such thing.

so, there was no "incident." there was a sting operation by two embarrassed loser teams and the league.

That part ( sting) was actually supported by the Wells report. "At halftime a question was raised by the Colts as to the inflation level of the balls"...First we're told by the league that teams complain all the time and nothing happens but on this occasion a team complains and they interrupt halftime of a championship game to check the balls??? Yeah, this was a planned operation....
This weekend was my birthday and I received(thanks to the wife) the latest 3 games to glory...Watching the Colts game, they couldn't hold on to the football, on punt returns, on handoffs, on passes... Even with the weather, I wonder if they overinflated their own balls to make the Pats look bad in comparison and it came back to bite them in the butt.....In addition, they played like s*it in bad weather....

1960Pats · Jun 1, 2015

Patsfanin Philly said:
This weekend was my birthday and I received(thanks to the wife) the latest 3 games to glory...Watching the Colts game, they couldn't hold on to the football, on punt returns, on handoffs, on passes... Even with the weather, I wonder if they overinflated their own balls to make the Pats look bad in comparison and it came back to bite them in the butt.....In addition, they played like s*it in bad weather....

I was saying the same thing after I watched the AFCCG. Luck sailed a lot of passes that night.

pdangle · Jun 1, 2015

The schedule is pretty brutal against NE this season, for all your reasons (and a few others but won't quibble) mentioned below. If one looks at it objectively using these criteria for and against NE and the game day opponent, we definitely got screwed this year. Not sure if it was done purposely, but it surely make one wonder...

One in particular if I recall is the Indy game. We are not going to blow them out (by as much haha) I am afraid. NE on short rest, them having long week, at home plus something else. Even if NE can rise up, it'll catch up with them the following or the following week. With motivation (and this is serious motivation) a team can overcome scheduling negatives one week but it does catch up with you. By my count NE had like 7 negative weeks and 2 positive scheduling weeks this season.

FCB02062 said:
I'm a big "the NFL is out to f#ck the Pats guy" and have been since 03-04 when it was clear the NFL and their media Jezebels openly fellated P Manning.
Back then and up to now I closely look at the NFL schedules - here's how the Pats get screwed.
The Patriots almost always have more stacked against em schedule-wise...playing more teams coming off byes, more teams w extra rest, more instances of 2/3 or 3/4 road games, shirt weeks, opening and closing on the road....
Goodell can't screw the pats w the opponents but he can with the timing and placement of the opponents

tasmlab · Jun 1, 2015

i like all of the parity stuff. Makes for good television.

Next year make the Pats play barefoot. The next year only let them field 10 players. The year after that make them jump in potato sacks. Just see how much they can pile on that Bill can overcome.

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 1, 2015

pdangle said:
The schedule is pretty brutal against NE this season, for all your reasons (and a few others but won't quibble) mentioned below. If one looks at it objectively using these criteria for and against NE and the game day opponent, we definitely got screwed this year. Not sure if it was done purposely, but it surely make one wonder...

One in particular if I recall is the Indy game. We are not going to blow them out (by as much haha) I am afraid. NE on short rest, them having long week, at home plus something else. Even if NE can rise up, it'll catch up with them the following or the following week. With motivation (and this is serious motivation) a team can overcome scheduling negatives one week but it does catch up with you. By my count NE had like 7 negative weeks and 2 positive scheduling weeks this season.

The NFL controls when games are played, but not as a rule who plays who or where. That was set years in advance.

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