Why I think Kraft caved in.

Ivan · May 31, 2015

I think it went down like an episode of Oz, when Bobby sat down at the cafeteria table to have a little prime rib and Lobster the other owners all got up and walked to another cafeteria table and turned their backs to him. He went back to his penthouses cell, had a good cry, then realized he would forever be the outcast and no longer the MAN WHO SAVED FOOTBALL, so he went down to Emerald City and lay prostrate at the feet of the 31 and begged forgiveness. They informed him there was only one way to get back into the club, he would have to throw his team and fans under the prison bus and allow the buzzards who follow the other 31 to have at it. Bobby asked if that was all and they said they would also take money and a really good prospect as acts of full contrition. Bobby readily agreed and was allowed back at the cafeteria table.

XLIX · May 31, 2015

goz421 said:
Upon contemplating the sudden turn of events I starting to think The owners and Goodell decided to take this approach. I'm sure they told Kraft all of next season the balls will be measured before and after games. That if if shown the balls can naturally deflate to the level they did in Colts game then then penalization of the draft picks will be revisited.

IMHO, with or without some sort of agreement, they should be doing that anyway. Considering all the time, effort and energy wasted on this ridiculous situation, conducting a few in-game measurements to see what really happens to NFL balls subjected to NFL action in NFL weather would be a valuable insight indeed.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
Not the same thing.

That's right. He's an owner with the ability to influence things in the future, in a league where everything is fixed and the commissioner has gone power mad.

I guess he could have pissed all over the league and lost his appeal [a foregone conclusion] while isolating himself so the other loser owners gain more power.

Marinlik · May 31, 2015

RayClay said:
He preferred to be demonized by thousands of Patriot fans. yeah, that makes sense.

Well the difference is that the other owners are his direct business partners in a way, and he will work with them directly. Whereas the fans are indirect, and he doesn't have direct contact with them, and they will most likely still go to the games.

Patriot Missile · May 31, 2015

It was like a rerun of Deliverance. It must not have been cozy for Kraft.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

Marinlik said:
Well the difference is that the other owners are his direct business partners in a way, and he will work with them directly. Whereas the fans are indirect, and he doesn't have direct contact with them, and they will most likely still go to the games.

And he and the other owners pick, or depose the commissioner. Getting brownie points from Castle Island won't do that.

Patters · May 31, 2015

goz421 said:
Upon contemplating the sudden turn of events I starting to think The owners and Goodell decided to take this approach. I'm sure they told Kraft all of next season the balls will be measured before and after games. That if if shown the balls can naturally deflate to the level they did in Colts game then then penalization of the draft picks will be revisited.

All Kraft spoke about was fairness. This would have been the most logical fair conclusion the owners meeting could draw. Maybe it is not all nefarious and perhaps the Pats ball people did deflate the balls.

The Brady issue is a completely different thing.

I don't think we'll know if Kraft caved until after Brady's appeal. If Brady's suspension is cut 2 or more games, it's quite possible that there was some sort of backroom deal to protect the NFL and the Pats. I think Kraft, like Belichick, is more focused on next season than anything else.

History will record Deflategate as a scandal that was irrelevant to any outcomes and had more to do with trying to make the League competitive at the expense of the Pats than anything else.

PlainOldEd · May 31, 2015

goz421 said:
Upon contemplating the sudden turn of events I starting to think The owners and Goodell decided to take this approach. I'm sure they told Kraft all of next season the balls will be measured before and after games. That if if shown the balls can naturally deflate to the level they did in Colts game then then penalization of the draft picks will be revisited.

All Kraft spoke about was fairness. This would have been the most logical fair conclusion the owners meeting could draw. Maybe it is not all nefarious and perhaps the Pats ball people did deflate the balls.

The Brady issue is a completely different thing.

If this was the case why would they not say so?

The Boston Patriot · May 31, 2015

Opinions are like....

flasox27 · May 31, 2015

This is the funniest thread I have seen in months. Its obvious Kraft is in this for the money with his relationship with his partners a close second. The team and its fans are not even in his picture. He did even try to sugarcoat it in his pathetic news conference.

flasox27 · May 31, 2015

RayClay said:
And he and the other owners pick, or depose the commissioner. Getting brownie points from Castle Island won't do that.

What makes anyone think that Kraft wants to depose the POS. I don't think he minds getting shafted or he would have done something about it years ago.

Rob0729 · May 31, 2015

I can see Roger Goodell now:

"Robert, you were right. The weather did cause the deflation. Oh, I am not giving you back your draft picks or your million dollar or making a public statement to this, but enjoy the satisfaction of being right."

Sorry, Kraft backed down for one reason. All the other owners told him to suck it up and take his punishment (same thing Kraft told Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder a few years back) and that is why Kraft did.

The Pats will never be exonerated by the NFL, EVER. The draft picks are gone forever. Never coming back.

The only hope we have is Brady getting a truly independent arbitrator and they call out the Wells Report for the sham it is. At best, he/she will rescind Brady's entire suspension.

Canuck · May 31, 2015

Caved-in. That say's it all. No glorious fight in face of certain defeat. Just whoops my bad, so sorry got to go, you are on you own. I'm going to go play with my 31 other friends.

Ring 6 · May 31, 2015

Ivan said:
I think it went down like an episode of Oz, when Bobby sat down at the cafeteria table to have a little prime rib and Lobster the other owners all got up and walked to another cafeteria table and turned their backs to him. He went back to his penthouses cell, had a good cry, then realized he would forever be the outcast and no longer the MAN WHO SAVED FOOTBALL, so he went down to Emerald City and lay prostrate at the feet of the 31 and begged forgiveness. They informed him there was only one way to get back into the club, he would have to throw his team and fans under the prison bus and allow the buzzards who follow the other 31 to have at it. Bobby asked if that was all and they said they would also take money and a really good prospect as acts of full contrition. Bobby readily agreed and was allowed back at the cafeteria table.

Why would the other owners tell him he can't appeal?
Jones, Snyder and Spanos all did.

flasox27 · May 31, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
Why would the other owners tell him he can't appeal?
Jones, Snyder and Spanos all did.

He was afraid he would be ostracized by Rooney and Mara and he couldn't bear that. The other owners you mentioned put their team first unlike Kraft.

IllegalContact · May 31, 2015

Bob Kraft did what Bob Kraft does.......take care of Bob Kraft

he can't call himself a fan of this team outside of being a fan of making money

the 'we are all patriots' quote after the SB win seems more fake than ever.

smelling a little like collusion to me

Ivan · May 31, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
Why would the other owners tell him he can't appeal?
Jones, Snyder and Spanos all did.

Really Andy? You are going to take that literally?

I guess my answer is that they didn't want to see him thrown in the hole.

Ivan · May 31, 2015

RayClay said:
That's right. He's an owner with the ability to influence things in the future, in a league where everything is fixed and the commissioner has gone power mad.

I guess he could have pissed all over the league and lost his appeal [a foregone conclusion] while isolating himself so the other loser owners gain more power.

What the league meetings showed was that Kraft has absolutely no power and that anything he has done for the league is past history. The Wells Report concluded b that the team did nothing wrong and they were punished with a million dollar fine and loss of a first rounder, if you have power that doesn't happen. Time for Robert Kraft to pass the torch.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

flasox27 said:
What makes anyone think that Kraft wants to depose the POS. I don't think he minds getting shafted or he would have done something about it years ago.

So you're saying he wants his successful team to be singled out and punished every year for something they didn't do but others [heated balls] did live on TV and got no punishment.

Maybe his new twinkie is a dominatrix and he enjoys getting punished.

For some reason, I don't think that's the logical explanation.

Remember, as ridiculous as it might have been, they did technically break a rule in 2007. Belichick and Kraft admitted as much.

RayClay · May 31, 2015

I can't help but equate the less than two weeks giving up on Kraft to some of the talk the beginning of last season about Brady and the team. Four full weeks into the season and it was all over and Brady was washed up. Never changes.

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