Curran on the Wells report cover up

I think the longer this drags on and especially if it gets into a court room, the bigger the league's credibility problem will be.

Most people remember the stacking or pushing penalty assessed against the Patriots in 2013 that turned a missed FG by the Jets into the game winning FG. After the game, Belichick said his understanding was that a player couldn't come from the "second level" and push a teammate on the line. Curran wrote about how an article from early September on NFL.com was changed after the game to remove a mention of the "second level." The video accompanying that article still has Dean Blandino specifying that players can no longer push from the second level.

When this happened, it got some attention from Patriots fans, but not much more. It was dismissed as some sloppy editing by the league, but the correct application of the rule. Knowing what we know now, though, about how the league office operates, is it hard to imagine that someone like Kensil telling the officials before the game that the Patriots always do this and to watch the Patriots for this kind of penalty, especially when you consider that the officials missed the Jets doing the same thing earlier in the game?

There are going to be more key, late game penalties in the future, but now people are going to wonder if they were good calls or if someone in the league office favored one team or disliked another.

So much for the "integrity of the game"..League office must have taken ethics with the FIFA people.........
That sounds like a very probable scenario and I would like to see any interviews with the ref..Who was it???
Edit- Jerome Boger..why am I not shocked???

Remember how Boger got selected to work the Super Bowl even though he did not have requisite past playoff experience that was required......Just the NFL changing the rules to suit themselves....
http://deadspin.com/5979862/is-the-...-put-an-unqualified-referee-in-the-super-bowl

It is really sad how the NFL* has destroyed it's credibility. I used to love watching the NFL* but now it is so tainted that I can never see it the same way again.

When this off-season started I was looking forward to the Pats being vindicated and their image being restored. I was expecting to swap high picks with the Rats for the Revis tampering as well as receiving a pick or two from the Colts for their assault on the Pats' integrity, as well as see someone like Mike Kensil fired and his duplicitous actions exposed for all to see.

I never imagined that the Pats would be the ones being hammered with penalties, but that was the old me who saw a league that had integrity and would honestly investigate the issues the Pats were involved in and would try to get it right.

My naivete is gone and I no longer expect fair treatment from the league as it's agenda is now apparent, and we get to see where Bob Kraft's loyalties really lie.

I don't anticipate watching the NFL* any more as it is no longer legitimate. How much I watch the Pats remains to be seen. Old habits die hard and I really loved watching them; a lot may hinge on how much light Brady can shine on the league's malfeasance in a lawsuit.

In any event, unless the wrongs effected against the Pats are righted, then any future NFL* championship is tainted, since the best run team is not being allowed to compete on a level playing field.

OK, this is going to make me look like I'm from Wackoville...
The billionaires want parity...apparently at the expense of credibility and integrity.
There will be no parity while Bill Belichick is coaching in the NFL.
I fear for his life.

Captain Cliche said:

OK, this is going to make me look like I'm from Wackoville...
The billionaires want parity...apparently at the expense of credibility and integrity.
There will be no parity while Bill Belichick is coaching in the NFL.
I fear for his life.

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I don't think BB needs to fear for his life, but if the Pats keep insisting on winning, the Pats next "violation" will see BB suspended.

Enough is enough!

Captain Cliche said:

OK, this is going to make me look like I'm from Wackoville...
The billionaires want parity...apparently at the expense of credibility and integrity.
There will be no parity while Bill Belichick is coaching in the NFL.
I fear for his life.

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Count me as one of those who believe that there are many in the NFL Exec Office who want BB out of the NFL- period. He is a non-conformist. He craps on the league lackeys when he can. His team-building philosophy runs counter to the ideology of the league salary cap and competitive structure. Its been that way for 14 years and I think the NFL has had enough.

IMO the penalties delivered by the NFL to the Patriots (picks and suspension for Brady) were purposed to accelerate BB's decision to decide how long he wishes to stay in the game. IMO using Spygate as one of the justifications for making the penalties so harsh was used for that very reason- run BB out of town. Going after Brady was a shot below the belt. Its like in The Godfather...shooting Santino on the causeway. They didn't care about him...they wanted to hurt Don Corleone.

Bob wants BB no question. However, I do think that if another coach/GM came along that was close to BB's equal and the benefit was winning AND losing the stigma of a "cheater" he'd take it.

On the other hand, the NFL might like BB where he is as the Pats/BB are a perfect "black hat" and America loves hating the villain and has a hard time looking away from the awfulness they cause.

When I listen to that, I get even angrier at Kraft for not at least pursuing an Appeal. I'm not saying he should necessarily have been ready to go to Court as, without knowing what would have come out during an Appeal I have no way of making a judgment about that, but I am saying that he should have gone through with the Appeal to expose the process that the NFL followed.

The question is how far will Brady be ready to take this? If his Suspension isn't completely overturned will he be willing to go to Court and force Discovery? That could be really ugly and drag on for a long time.

Bobsyouruncle said:

Did that guy say the ideal gas law is nonsense?

And then say explain why he would go to the bathroom?

That's some weapon's grade stupid.

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It's a perfect picture of this entire episode. The science completely explains the ball deflation. Completely. No other entity is needed. See Occam's Razor.

If they understood this from the very beginning, this would have gone NOWHERE.

So you have uber morons saying things like Chris Russo did - that he didn't read the report but we KNOW the Pats did something wrong. Like Mike Francesa - don't give me the science, because we KNOW the Pats did something wrong. Like so many others who say the science is irrelevant, or why didn't the Colts' footballs deflate (god it's incredible that people say this), but HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THE "DEFLATOR" TEXT? Or "HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THE BATHROOM VISIT?" I mean, it's insanity. Utter, utter insanity.

Maybe BB has a food taster...
He could use Gronk, but my guess is, he could eat stuff that would kill mere mortals.

PatsFanSince74 said:

When I listen to that, I get even angrier at Kraft for not at least pursuing an Appeal. I'm not saying he should necessarily have been ready to go to Court as, without knowing what would have come out during an Appeal I have no way of making a judgment about that, but I am saying that he should have gone through with the Appeal to expose the process that the NFL followed.

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Yep- At the end of the day Bob feels that the wellsreportcontext did that. He decided that twisting the knife more wouldn't produce more blood or improve his situation. Not saying it's right. Just concluding what hiss logic might have been.

PatsFanSince74 said:

The question is how far will Brady be ready to take this? If his Suspension isn't completely overturned will he be willing to go to Court and force Discovery? That could be really ugly and drag on for a long time.

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Things have gotten interesting with TB12's appeal. The fact that they are deadlocked on who will hear his appeal is fascinating.

neuronet said:

http://www.csnne.com/video_content_type/curran-nfl-doesnt-want-you-know-how-much-prejudice-they-have

I am heterosexual, but right now I want to have sex with Curran and I don't care what you think.

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No worries!!! You're only gay if you like it.

robertweathers said:

Count me as one of those who believe that there are many in the NFL Exec Office who want BB out of the NFL- period. He is a non-conformist. He craps on the league lackeys when he can. His team-building philosophy runs counter to the ideology of the league salary cap and competitive structure. Its been that way for 14 years and I think the NFL has had enough.

IMO the penalties delivered by the NFL to the Patriots (picks and suspension for Brady) were purposed to accelerate BB's decision to decide how long he wishes to stay in the game. IMO using Spygate as one of the justifications for making the penalties so harsh was used for that very reason- run BB out of town. Going after Brady was a shot below the belt. Its like in The Godfather...shooting Santino on the causeway. They didn't care about him...they wanted to hurt Don Corleone.

Bob wants BB no question. However, I do think that if another coach/GM came along that was close to BB's equal and the benefit was winning AND losing the stigma of a "cheater" he'd take it.

On the other hand, the NFL might like BB where he is as the Pats/BB are a perfect "black hat" and America loves hating the villain and has a hard time looking away from the awfulness they cause.

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IMO the real enemy is not the NFL* Exec. but the 32 owners hiding behind the curtain. The NFL* Exec's are simply the visible extension and implementers of the whims and desires of the owners.
In my mind this makes the threat to our Pats far more serious than simply a group of biased Exec. which if eliminated would change things for the better.
I believe the playing field will continue to increase in its tilt against us and trumped up charges will in the future be brought until these BILLIONAIRES achieve what it is they desire. Never ever underestimate the sense of entitlement these BILLIONAIRES have and never ever think what we may perceive as beyond the PALE as being even a yeild sign in their world.

robertweathers said:

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Things have gotten interesting with TB12's appeal. The fact that they are deadlocked on who will hear his appeal is fascinating.

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I don't know whether there is or is not a "deadlock." That's all media speculation.

But it's not out of the question that Goodell understands that his "worst case" scenario is Brady taking the League to Court and dragging it through Discovery, win or lose. In many ways, that's the position in which Kraft left the League. Hmmm....

So, Goodell has to calculate whether reducing the Suspension to one game will get Brady to go quietly into the night or whether Brady will fight even one game. Because, if Goodell tosses the entire suspension, he has to admit that the Wells report is the crock of **** that we all know it to be. But, if he doesn't toss it, he faces the possibility that Brady will make his life living hell.

Roger's biggest problem is Brady's financial independence. He and Gisele have a ****wad more money (and earnings potential) than Goodell can dream about any day of the week.

Brady should play his cards very close to the vest. It might come down to who "blinks" first.

Goodell's 32 bosses have a lot of financial resources, though. Brady has deep pockets and can fight to the end, but RG isn't limited by expense. He's more limited by a desire to somehow keep his job when the Wells Report is exposed as a farce.

PatsFanSince74 said:

Because, if Goodell tosses the entire suspension, he has to admit that the Wells report is the crock of **** that we all know it to be.

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Why? He already has a 'win' because of the penalties the Patriots accepted. It's a win win for the masses so why would they question it. It would be the destroyed tapes all over again.

robertweathers said:

Bob wants BB no question. However, I do think that if another coach/GM came along that was close to BB's equal and the benefit was winning AND losing the stigma of a "cheater" he'd take it.

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Even if that's true, it's kind of a moot point, because there just isn't anyone else anywhere close to Belichick's level. There's no such thing as close to his equal, it just doesn't exist.

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! said:

Why? He already has a 'win' because of the penalties the Patriots accepted. It's a win win for the masses so why would they question it. It would be the destroyed tapes all over again.

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Yup, he could easily dish Brady a big ol' fine, throw Vincent under the bus for the original punishment being too harsh and be done with it