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While Allen makes some great points there about what the Wells report should have concluded about which gauge was used (base on the very report!!) does anyone laugh at the fact that this so-called higher Patriots gauge had 3 different measurements?

I mean, the range between 11.35 and 11.75 is .4, and that's roughly the range between the logoed and non-logoed gauges.

And that means this whole thing is absolutely bonkers.
 
The only reason we needed a Wells report to begin with was because they re-inflated the Pats footballs at half time instead of keeping them as evidence.

that would have been pretty hilarious if they kept them as evidence and switched to back up balls, only to find their evidence miraculously at 12.5 later that night --- the re-inflator!!
 
The only reason we needed a Wells report to begin with was because they re-inflated the Pats footballs at half time instead of keeping them as evidence.
And it was such a big deal they left the balls behind with the Pats after the game. I wonder if anybody bothered to gauge them again when they returned to room temperature?
 
And it was such a big deal they left the balls behind with the Pats after the game. I wonder if anybody bothered to gauge them again when they returned to room temperature?
Imagine if they did, and Brady holds that very data, waiting for his court case.

Imagine if they video recorded the re-gauging, and almost all the balls was between 12.1 and 12.5. I doubt this happened, but it's funny to think about.
 
Their is a lot of info there. It wouldn't hurt to e-mail the link of that site to Kessler, Yee or anyone else that might be able to gleen some food for thought from it.

If anyone has an e-mail address to those or other possible interested parties....please forward it to them or send me an IM and I will send an e-mail myself.

Thank you...

Zum
Should tweet this to bedard who came up with his own logic of calculating averages of PSI on MMQB
 
Good thing you pointed this one out since I am really trying to cut myself to one gauge related article a day.
 
The science of this whole matter has been closed for some time, to me. If not for Beavus' and Butthead's texts and Brady's cell phone, this would be a long gone matter. Goodell hung his hat on those items and should be embarrassed for doing so. But, he's not.[/QU

20 MILLION will make a whole lot of embarrassed go away!
 
Imagine if they did, and Brady holds that very data, waiting for his court case.

Imagine if they video recorded the re-gauging, and almost all the balls was between 12.1 and 12.5. I doubt this happened, but it's funny to think about.


They couldn't have. The NFL, with all their wisdom, decided to re-inflate those footballs and put them back in the game. Why do we even have the need for back up footballs?
 
Should tweet this to bedard who came up with his own logic of calculating averages of PSI on MMQB
I read that, I know he's a writer and maybe not strong on math skills but that was one of the more illogical ones I've read. I read a few where they just say the Colts balls didn't deflate as much so that's their answer. A good report would have explained all that instead it left things out and didn't explain things it should have and now people are just applying their own reasoning.
 
Great analysis.

He claims they must have used Anderson's gauge, just like Anderson remembers. But Wells thinks the opposite. The article analyzes the data to show Anderson is right.

Here is a different way, using the principle of conservation of energy, why Anderson is not only correct, but also that the broken, lower gauge is broken (and not reverse).

If you start with the wrong gauge, you think, wow all 24 of Pats and Colts footballs are .38 PSI below what the teams like. That's a lot of consistency between the balls of both teams, and consistently below the pressure the quarterbacks asked for. 12.12 and 12.62 instead of 12.5 and 13, by the same number.

As a referee, do you re-inflate all the footballs, especially the Patriots (as they're not even legal)?

Or it’s more probable than not, you try Anderson’s gauge!

Amazing, the balls are 12.5 and 13, exactly what the teams asked for. And the same as they claimed! And the least amount of work for me, as a referee!

Yes! I’d rather believe the gauge that requires me to do the least work. Measuring each ball, declaring it under inflated, inflation it, measuring it again, removing some air because it’s beyond legal or beyond what the QB’s asked for… No way. Only the broken, lower gauge makes me do this.

In summary, the reason Anderson suspects he used the Anderson’s gauge is because he knows the one that reads lower information was broken, and would require a lot of work to adjust 24 balls, and doesn’t fit the most logical answer that teams submitted the balls with their own gauges at their preferred pressure. Besides that, if you use the broken gauge, each team purposefully under-inflated their balls by .4 below their preferred pressure, and then lied to the referees they were 12.5 and 13 and they want to keep it that way, while the broken gauge says 12.12 and 12.62? No, you throw out the broken gauge.

Much simpler to try the other gauge, "oh yes, 12.5 and 13, exactly how the teams submitted the footballs, and how they asked them to be inflated, this gauge makes way more sense and we don't have to do any inflation/re-measuring work."

The funny thing is, the referees never had reason to measure anything again for the rest of the season, so Anderson just tossed both gauges into his bag.

For this reason, I also want to speculate that Anderson said he used the gauge reading the higher number, not the way it looked (logo/no logo).
 
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Wow. Clear science errors in the report. Hope the media picks the up.


Yeah I admire your hope but after listening to these guys stumble over the basic principles of the ideal gas laws for the last 3 months I highly doubt they are going to grasp onto this.
 
Great analysis.

He claims they must have used Anderson's gauge, just like Anderson remembers. But Wells thinks the opposite. The article analyzes the data to show Anderson is right.

Here is a different way, using the principle of conservation of energy, why Anderson is not only correct, but also that the broken, lower gauge is broken (and not reverse).

If you start with the wrong gauge, you think, wow all 24 of Pats and Colts footballs are .38 PSI below what the teams like. That's a lot of consistency between the balls of both teams, and consistently below the pressure the quarterbacks asked for. 12.12 and 12.62 instead of 12.5 and 13, by the same number.

As a referee, do you re-inflate all the footballs, especially the Patriots (as they're not even legal)?

Or it’s more probable than not, you try Anderson’s gauge!

Amazing, the balls are 12.5 and 13, exactly what the teams asked for. And the same as they claimed! And the least amount of work for me, as a referee!

Yes! I’d rather believe the gauge that requires me to do the least work. Measuring each ball, declaring it under inflated, inflation it, measuring it again, removing some air because it’s beyond legal or beyond what the QB’s asked for… No way. Only the broken, lower gauge makes me do this.

In summary, the reason Anderson suspects he used the Anderson’s gauge is because he knows the one that reads lower information was broken, and would require a lot of work to adjust 24 balls, and doesn’t fit the most logical answer that teams submitted the balls with their own gauges at their preferred pressure. Besides that, if you use the broken gauge, each team purposefully under-inflated their balls by .4 below their preferred pressure, and then lied to the referees they were 12.5 and 13 and they want to keep it that way, while the broken gauge says 12.12 and 12.62? No, you throw out the broken gauge.

Much simpler to try the other gauge, "oh yes, 12.5 and 13, exactly how the teams submitted the footballs, and how they asked them to be inflated, this gauge makes way more sense and we don't have to do any inflation/re-measuring work."

The funny thing is, the referees never had reason to measure anything again for the rest of the season, so Anderson just tossed both gauges into his bag.

For this reason, I also want to speculate that Anderson said he used the gauge reading the higher number, not the way it looked (logo/no logo).

This is a fantastic point. Five stars. Two thumbs up. Winner winner chicken dinner. Great post.
 
Mike Reiss and Christopher Price, I know your lurking here somewhere...comment, blog, do that crazy voodoo that you do.
 
"Are we now saying that Jim McNally only tampered with three footballs, and even then only took tiny amounts of air out of each?"

this is a point that is undeniably true, very important, and inconsistent with tampering

why would TB want three levels of FB pressure? he wouldn't
 
They couldn't have. The NFL, with all their wisdom, decided to re-inflate those footballs and put them back in the game. Why do we even have the need for back up footballs?
Oh right. Damn it. Really why the hell did they do that if it wasn't a sting? It's nonsense... Get the numbers then destroy the evidence.
 
This analysis is a very to the work done by , headsmart labs, Our own PBPF and Drew Fustin.

Thanks for posting.


Sadly most of the sports media is too stupid/ not interested in science just the scandal narrative.

What these studies demonstrate is that Wells intentionally created a scandal where none existed to protect The Park age crew who executed the sting.
 
I haven't read this yet, but I just wanted to comment on something that has kind of annoyed me throughout the whole process.

back when the report was that the patriots balls were pretty uniformly 2 lbs short there was maybe something to look at or investigate, regardless of how relevant any of it was to playing football, but since the actual numbers have come out we're apparently actually having all these discussions to maybe track down a third of a pound here or there.

I really hope the general public understands that these are fairly generic ball gauges and not ****ing electron microscopes.
you cannot use these tools to accurately measure air pressure to the tenths or hundredths of a pound anymore than you would try to preheat your oven to 350.36 degrees.

to be generous, these gauges are manufactured with an error range of around +/- .2 pounds, and maybe even more.

just read the article and wanted to give myself a little shout out on this point ^^
I had pulled that error range out of my ass after talking to a mechanical engineer buddy of mine who has used and calibrated gauges.

turns out there was actually a portion of the exponent appendix that tested this, and found about 75% of these gauges were within +/- 0.1 psi with the other 25% just a tenth or 2 outside that range.
I think +/- 0.2 is pretty close for a made up number.

as for the guy's article, it's pretty long, and he put a lot of effort into it, so I don't want to detract from it in any way, but I think it's just a rehash of the argument over gauges, which I find fairly irrelevant.
there's another point made further down that's just a rehash of something already covered in the exponent appendix starting around page 42, which he apparently says he hadn't seen --- the bit explaining why the colt balls lost less pressure (they had warmed up).
to answer the guy's question, about 10 min indoors accounts for the discrepancy, according to exponent.

the guy argues for the logo gauge to be the original gauge based on the premise that the pat's gauge showed certain readings on the intercepted ball, but the problem with this theory is I don't think it mentions the conditions that ball was measured under -- ie was it brought indoors?

anyway, as I mentioned in my quoted post above ^^ this all becomes entirely irrelevant and bordering on crazy homeless ranting when you really look at it, as the 'worst' case gauge (non-logo) apparently asks us to explain a discrepancy of about a third of a pound on something like half the balls, which would be a pretty insane rant for you to accuse me of sneaking off to the bathroom to let a third of a pound of air out of these balls, and this is with gauges that might read 0.15 psi light on one read and 0.15 psi over the next, for a net difference of 0.3 psi of uncertainty in just normal gauge to gauge usage out of the factory, before we even get into a gauge that's established to be 0.4 psi 'off', and before we get into measuring under conditions that are rough estimates and approximations of actual conditions.
I understand people see numbers in a report on the internet, but these are made up approximations that have a greater degree of error than what we are actually measuring.

if anybody ever gives you any crap about this nonsense report just challenge them to tell you exactly how much air 'the deflator' was letting out --- all the measurements are right there in the report.

ps

there was one interesting takeaway I got from the couple pages of the exponent index I just browsed --- apparently, colts balls were kept in garbage bags, while pat's balls were out and exposed to the rain.
they then go on to say that the wet balls not only show around a 0.2 psi (yes, I'm an ******* for making a 0.2 psi distinction) drop from the dry balls, but they also take longer to re-acclimate to the warmer indoors.
so, the point remaining that all these little 0.2's here and there add up, and the entire range of numbers is insignificant.
 
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