Big Ben Wants Brady to Play

FourierSeries said:

enjoys raping women... Nice to see he still has respect for Brady.

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Most players privately support Brady.
It is in their interest as a class of employees.
They all have their own beef with the current setup.

Men that have already been through the grinder have a finer understanding of things.
We may joke or wink, but their name after the blender ride always comes with a new free shot.
True or not, it does not matter.

So Ben says, don't let this happen, Tom.
Or it is just Ben the first class competitor speaking out of pride.
Both, more probable than not.

lillloyd said:

Maybe this is too soon, but is there any part of Pats nation that is kind of excited to see Jimmy G get real starts? He seems like the type of guy who would have success under BB (good football IQ etc.)

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Yeah, after Brady's gone. I want another SB win. I'll take my chances with Tom Brady. You can have Jimmy G., whom I like and think will be good. He won't be Tom Brady.

lillloyd said:

Maybe this is too soon, but is there any part of Pats nation that is kind of excited to see Jimmy G get real starts? He seems like the type of guy who would have success under BB (good football IQ etc.)

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I'd rather see Brady on opening night, but if the suspension is not lifted, I am quite confident about how the Patriots will do with Garoppolo at the controls. He was quite impressive last season as a rookie. So much so, that no one was unhappy when Ryan Mallett was let go.

Garoppolo has a quick release, can make the throws and will definitely benefit from getting pre-season and regular season snaps with the first unit, if that comes to pass.

The Patriots are going to be one very pi$$ed off team come opening night whether Brady is under center or not. This is a circle the wagons time for a team that just won the Super Bowl. Let's not forget how much talent there is on this team, and how battle-tested they are after last season's ups and downs, and all of the distractions they're having to work through. Make no mistake about it, the Patriots are one very dangerous team coming into 2015.

Bill Belichick knows how to prepare teams for situations like this. With a full summer to prepare for a few games without Brady, I expect that Garoppolo will have the right game plan to execute what he can do well, and his teammates will support him every way they know how.

The defense will be fun to watch unfold as they utilize the speed, depth, youth and aggressiveness that front seven will be able to unleash.

We're all looking forward to seeing what the secondary looks like. There's a big group of defensive backs battling for spots along side Butler, McCourty and Chung. We know that Ryan and Harmon can play, and they're coming into their 3rd year, and the mix of guys they brought in is interesting. Watch to see if CBs Justin Green and Bradley Fletcher can prove that they are over the injuries that short-circuited their time with Dallas and Philadelphia, respectively. Both were promising coming into the NFL.

Jackson 2 said:

Yeah, he saw through all the BS in Milledgeville. He's a scumbag.

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Read his ESPN article...He gives Brady his due, Big Ben made his mistakes, we all know that, but he turned his life around. He is Blue Collar, just like us here in Beantown...

Bobsyouruncle said:

I don't follow the logic here. The league can't be anti-Patriots because being anti-Patriots would mean not punishing the Patriots for the good of the NFL?

I don't get it. By this logic the league has anti-Patriot bias, even to the extent of hurting league interests.

Regardless, no conspiracy is necessary. We recognize every fan base that follows the NFL has its own bias but somehow league people who invest their whole lives in the NFL don't have a rooting interest. They are cut from a different cloth than all other Americans?

I would consider the idea the league employees have no bias to be the most far fetched concept in this charade. The fact that they haven't taken steps to ensure such bias isn't balanced is the incompetence we see.

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Let me clarify -- I was trying to say bias/conspiracy as is a much less likely reason than incompetence, in taking an action that actually results in real pain for the league. Given the NFL's recent history with league discipline, I think it's far more likely that they bumbled their way into a situation with significant negative consequences, than they actively chose that situation due to heavy anti-Pats bias (whether individual or conspiratorial) in the league office.

I don't doubt that league executives retain rooting interests in teams that they have been affiliated with. It's certainly plausible (if maybe a bit cynical) to suppose that a handful are so petty and unprofessional that they let these rooting interests guide their thinking on league matters.

But (in my personal opinion, anyway) it strains credulity to think that that the individual biases within the league office are 1) simultaneously strong enough to deliberately engage in actions that are detrimental to the league's image and bottom line (and in Goodell's case, potentially detrimental to his career) and 2) are so unified among all of the league execs that they can actually move in a coherent direction against a particular team.

Possible? Sure. Likely? IMHO, no -- again, I just think long-established incompetence is a far more likely reason for the league arriving at their 2015 kickoff without their biggest star, carrying a suspension length that puts a spotlight (again) on just how arbitrary and inept Goodell's team has been in instituting a coherent disciplinary policy.

Ultimately I agree the Pats got jobbed here -- the punishment doesn't fit the crime -- but I just think it was a natural outgrowth of long-running dysfunction with the league's disciplinary 'policy', rather than the Pats being somehow singled out.

not a big ben fan. i do like antonio brown though
steelers are really good at picking wr's in the later rounds.

goheels22002 said:

I'd rather see Brady on opening night, but if the suspension is not lifted, I am quite confident about how the Patriots will do with Garoppolo at the controls. He was quite impressive last season as a rookie. So much so, that no one was unhappy when Ryan Mallett was let go.

Garoppolo has a quick release, can make the throws and will definitely benefit from getting pre-season and regular season snaps with the first unit, if that comes to pass.

The Patriots are going to be one very pi$$ed off team come opening night whether Brady is under center or not. This is a circle the wagons time for a team that just won the Super Bowl. Let's not forget how much talent there is on this team, and how battle-tested they are after last season's ups and downs, and all of the distractions they're having to work through. Make no mistake about it, the Patriots are one very dangerous team coming into 2015.

Bill Belichick knows how to prepare teams for situations like this. With a full summer to prepare for a few games without Brady, I expect that Garoppolo will have the right game plan to execute what he can do well, and his teammates will support him every way they know how.

The defense will be fun to watch unfold as they utilize the speed, depth, youth and aggressiveness that front seven will be able to unleash.

We're all looking forward to seeing what the secondary looks like. There's a big group of defensive backs battling for spots along side Butler, McCourty and Chung. We know that Ryan and Harmon can play, and they're coming into their 3rd year, and the mix of guys they brought in is interesting. Watch to see if CBs Justin Green and Bradley Fletcher can prove that they are over the injuries that short-circuited their time with Dallas and Philadelphia, respectively. Both were promising coming into the NFL.

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Weird to say but it's actually a great environment for Garoppolo -- Pitt's D is very young (again, weird to say) and was near the bottom of league efficiency last year. He should have success.

Will be an interesting test for your secondary as well. Another interesting angle -- Ben struggles with up-the-gut pressure, so it will be interesting to see if Malcolm Brown gets snaps that early, and if he can push Pitt's interior OL (which can struggle with physical DTs) back to disrupt the passing game.

A shame though that the game will be missing so many players.

I kind of liken this to James Cormier calling out Jon Bones Jones after he's been suspended.

Now if you watch the MMA and you saw the fight between them in January you would laugh your **s off at his words to Jones after he won the vacated belt. Like you had a chance after he just mopped the canvas with you 5 months ago? Big talk from someone that's not there to defend it.

However it is possible Ben is sincere with his wishes for Brady. That is a very small club they are in being multiple SB winning QBs daboot.

lillloyd...two words...Mike Kensil.

Google his league history as well as his father's with the JETS and then Google Kensil hates Belechick and READ the despicable scumbaggery this mutt put out in the media...THEN tell me there's no conspiracy. You mean you're gonna quit being the chief operating officer of an NFL team to take a position out of sight under a commissioner in NFL offices?...C'mon, man....it's a duck.

Doesn't matter who you play Ben..you're starting off 0-1

lillloyd said:

A shame though that the game will be missing so many players.

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I think that's all part of the "show" here, and hardly a coincidence. Goodell has been referred to as "the enforcer" many times in the past. Didn't he even have a magazine cover with that heading? He's making yet another statement:

"Look---all of these star players are suspended for the opener. I told you that I wasn't going to tolerate any funny business."

Brady_to_Moss said:

Doesn't matter who you play Ben..you're starting off 0-1

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The Pats are still favored to win the game even without Tom Brady. Here in Pittsburgh, people seem to feel as though this is some type of slam dunk win for the Steelers.

lillloyd said:

Let me clarify -- I was trying to say bias/conspiracy as is a much less likely reason than incompetence, in taking an action that actually results in real pain for the league. Given the NFL's recent history with league discipline, I think it's far more likely that they bumbled their way into a situation with significant negative consequences, than they actively chose that situation due to heavy anti-Pats bias (whether individual or conspiratorial) in the league office.

I don't doubt that league executives retain rooting interests in teams that they have been affiliated with. It's certainly plausible (if maybe a bit cynical) to suppose that a handful are so petty and unprofessional that they let these rooting interests guide their thinking on league matters.

But (in my personal opinion, anyway) it strains credulity to think that that the individual biases within the league office are 1) simultaneously strong enough to deliberately engage in actions that are detrimental to the league's image and bottom line (and in Goodell's case, potentially detrimental to his career) and 2) are so unified among all of the league execs that they can actually move in a coherent direction against a particular team.

Possible? Sure. Likely? IMHO, no -- again, I just think long-established incompetence is a far more likely reason for the league arriving at their 2015 kickoff without their biggest star, carrying a suspension length that puts a spotlight (again) on just how arbitrary and inept Goodell's team has been in instituting a coherent disciplinary policy.

Ultimately I agree the Pats got jobbed here -- the punishment doesn't fit the crime -- but I just think it was a natural outgrowth of long-running dysfunction with the league's disciplinary 'policy', rather than the Pats being somehow singled out.

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Straight incompetence is as unlikely as a conspiracy. Envy fueled incompetence is the most likely case, but that's still bias.

Not a fan of his sexual assaults, but the guy is one of the QBs who can get it done in clutch situations.