draft grades

i want draft grades. i know they're irrelevant now but so what...give me draft grades.

A+

or F

There can be no middle ground, at least not on here

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...guars-dolphins-ravens-cardinals-score-highest

I think this is about the consensus for the draft...somewhere around a B, given all the needs met, grabbing Brown and some others like Flowers and Roberts where they did, but it seems everyone docks them for the Richards and Cardona picks. Won't know for three years but I think they did a hell of a job adding talent and upside even though the Richards pick had me scratching my head.

I'd give it a B. They addressed DT, DE, and OG with force. I would have liked for them to do more at CB (WR too), although Roberts has a lot of upside if he can be coached to turn his head. But, in all, it's a solid draft at first peak. The Richards reach, to me, was made up for when they got good value for both Mason and Jackson.

Overall a B. Each pick's grade matters more than the next but the first is particularly matters a lot.

The first hit was good

The second was bad.

The 3rd and 4ths were all pretty good. That to me is 90% of the grade but I thought they did well with the other picks.

KontradictioN said:

I'd give it a B. They addressed DT, DE, and OG with force. I would have liked for them to do more at CB (WR too), although Roberts has a lot of upside if he can be coached to turn his head. But, in all, it's a solid draft at first peak. The Richards reach, to me, was made up for when they got good value for both Mason and Jackson.

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Yeah I try to use this kind of compensate mechanism but in this case it's hard to swallow, that was a MEGA REACH.

If they had confidence they could address the other needs in later rounds, like they did, the only explanation for not getting the players in a more expected sequence is that he is using the 2nd round pick as a shield to lock Richards roster spot even if he stinks for 3 years and pay off only in the 4th, after all generally is more probable than not that you do not cut a 2nd round pick in his rookie deal because of the investment made. Bill really puts a high value on leadership, that's why Slater is still on the roster making good money.

Value picks: Malcolm Brown, Trey Flowers…and that's it.

Could've had them later: Geneo Grissom, Shaq Mason, Matthew Wells, AJ Derby.

Don't see the fit here: Tre Jackson, Xavier ****son.

Criminally negligent wastes of precious draft capital: Jordan Richards, Joey Cardona.

D-

While brother Captain Stone is overly harsh, criticism is in order. The three reaches in order of magnitude are the long snapper (Should've taken Ohio State's DT Michael Bennett instead), Jordan Richards (OG AJ Cann or RB Tevin Coleman), and Geneo Grissom (OG TJ Clemmings or CBs Josh Shaw or Steve Nelson or Doran Grant).

Let's see how it plays out. Malco[l]m Brown is sweet, though. B- grade.

UPDATE: NFL.com gives grades for the AFC East. Jets with a well-deserved A. Patriots with a C+. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rades-mike-maccagnan-crushes-first-jets-draft
New Jets GM Mike Maccagnan really has impressed a lot of people. The 1990 Trinity grad (Hartford, Conn.) really laid a good foundation with far fewer picks. I like how he nails a player at a need position, whether it be OLB, QB, WR, etc., which compares with us taking players who were not sure how they'll be utilized but we all trust in Belichick.

I remember being on bleacher report following day 2 of the draft, and while I was reading the pick of jordan Richards and wondering why he was taken( I'm sure i wasn't the only one). But it seemed like all the analysts reasoning behind the pick was that he was a leader and extremely smart, nothing about whether he can make a diference on the field or not.

So I know BB sticks to his board and I know he obviously must of valued Richards alot higher than anyone else. But it bothers me to think why he doesn't try to get best available. There were so many players( game changers) at that point they could of had with the second pick, and still could of probably gotten Richards. But in the end bb has four rings to his name compared to my 0.

What blows my mind about the Richards pick is that he wasn't even the best draft-eligible DB…
…on his own damn team.
I regarded Alex Carter 3rd of the remaining DBs behind DJoun Smith & PJ Williams, but at least
I could've justified this pick by knowing that Carter offered more size than Smith and better off-field
credentials than Williams.

State said:

UPDATE: NFL.com gives grades for the AFC East. Jets with a well-deserved A. Patriots with a C+. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rades-mike-maccagnan-crushes-first-jets-draft
New Jets GM Mike Maccagnan really has impressed a lot of people. The 1990 Trinity grad (Hartford, Conn.) really laid a good foundation with far fewer picks. I like how he nails a player at a need position, whether it be OLB, QB, WR, etc., which compares with us taking players who were not sure how they'll be utilized but we all trust in Belichick.

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I really don't get why analysts are so in love with the Jets draft.

Leonard Williams has a 29.5" Vertical Jump. That's zero explosion, at a position that demands explosion. Comparisons to JJ Watt?! Give me a ****ing break. Watt had a 37" vertical and a 6.88 second (!!!) 3 cone drill. Williams' 3 cone drill was 7.59 seconds.

I'm calling him a bust. Good in college, doesn't have it at the top level. Safest pick in the draft my ****ing arse.

Round 2 for the Jets was Devin Smith, a great deep threat. If only they had a QB who could get it to him. Like Mike Wallace and DeSean Jackson, having a deep burner doesn't mean **** when it comes to winning games. I'm with Kerry Byrne here - wide receivers are the shiny hood ornaments of football, and the quarterback matters far far more than the receiver does.

Bryce Petty in the 4th? Complete waste of a pick. I watched him in the passing drills at the combine, and he's nowhere near accurate enough. Receivers constantly had to adjust to his throws, running against air. Can't do that against physical coverage.


Even if we'd taken Malcom Brown at 32 and then passed on all our other picks, I'd still take our draft over the Jets'.

They didn't draft any tall, shiny WR's like so many here yearned for and thought we would. So naturally they get an "F".

I take it then that you're OK with Jordan Richards & Nice Guy Joey Carboney.

captain stone said:

Value picks: Malcolm Brown, Trey Flowers…and that's it.

Could've had them later: Geneo Grissom, Shaq Mason, Matthew Wells, AJ Derby.

Don't see the fit here: Tre Jackson, Xavier ****son.

Criminally negligent wastes of precious draft capital: Jordan Richards, Joey Cardona.

D-

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My draft grade on your Grading is an F--.

You are already wrong as Joey Cardona has earned a starting spot. When ever a Fifth rounder gets you a starter, your Draft is already a success, and pretty good for a "criminally negligent" pick.

Well at first I gave it a T but that didn't feel right and a B just seemed too high a grade tonight, I thought and thought that a D might do but at the end I thought something new, TBD is just right to give to you.

"And for an analysis of the Patriots' draft, we turn now to Dr Seuss…"

I like it; beats the heck outta any of the ex-jock haters.

New Grade. I think they could have got more value and drafted Jordan Richards a lot later and Grissom a little later. Assuming they could do this they would have maximized value and i like both players.

Overall looking right now i give the grade a rare A.

If they could have gotten more value and still have gotten Richards and Grissom and have gotten more players after round 4 it would have been an A+ which I have never given for a full draft.

BobDigital said:

New Grade. I think they could have got more value and drafted Jordan Richards a lot later and Grissom a little later. Assuming they could do this they would have maximized value and i like both players.

Overall looking right now i give the grade a rare A.

If they could have gotten more value and still have gotten Richards and Grissom and have gotten more players after round 4 it would have been an A+ which I have never given for a full draft.

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I don't think you should be giving out A+ unless you get a potential HOF prospect. And personally, I wouldn't give an A as a grade unless I thought one of the prospects was going to be one of the best in the league at his position. For now, at best this draft is a B+ and I'd give it a B or B- until we see these guys actually play a meaningful game.

In truth, draft grades shouldn't be given out for at least two years, but I understand the impulse and need for earlier grades.

Richards, grissom, cardona, they were all too early picks for my opinion, but u cant evaluate draft after no regular season games.
Like two previos draft. Can we evaluate them yet?
2013:
Collins: potential HOF
Dobson: i was so hyped bout him till the latest hammy injury and i am worried that there are similarities with Ras-i-dowling. Playing time, 4games?
Ryan: boy i dont like him in man coverage, last years in small packages
Harmon: He has a nose for INT, very small amount of snaps
Boyce: maybe he is gone if he screws joint practices.
Buchanonn: very high on him and now he is gone
Bucheaniers: didnt like him

Collins starter, others have to prove this year

2014
Easley: we dont know nothing
Garappolo: need a lot of learning, do u trust him incase Brady wont play
Stork: i like his mental state, potential top 10 center
james white: Veeren replacement, unproven
fleming: i didnt read anything special bout him in this year camp
halapio: so hyped bout him, they srewed that pick
zach moore: should be chandler jones replacemnt, noe is DT
gallon and thomas are not even camp bodies
Butler: played few snaps but with his SB INT he made this draft class A++++

only Stork starter in round four. ok Easley should be count as this year pick.
others have to prove this year

manxman2601 said:

I don't think you should be giving out A+ unless you get a potential HOF prospect. And personally, I wouldn't give an A as a grade unless I thought one of the prospects was going to be one of the best in the league at his position. For now, at best this draft is a B+ and I'd give it a B or B- until we see these guys actually play a meaningful game.

In truth, draft grades shouldn't be given out for at least two years, but I understand the impulse and need for earlier grades.

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No I agree. It is in no way my final grade. Just where I think things stand right now. I might change my mind after preseason is over. I might change it half way through the regular season. I might change it at the end of the post season.

Like you said we will not know for sure till years from now but waiting till years from now is no fun cause then the evidence is there and we will all agree on 95% of everything caue there will be proof. More fun to give an early get guess and see how your grade evolves over time till you know for sure

captain stone said:

I take it then that you're OK with Jordan Richards & Nice Guy Joey Carboney.

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Yes I am. Great Safeties don't have great athletic ability necessarily. Eric
Weddle willl never impress any one with his athletic ability, but he is a perennial Pro Bowl Safety. Brady doesn't compare to RG III or Cam Newton as an athlete. So What? QB and Free Safety is mostly played between the ears. Something you don't recognize and your constantly picking/recommending Busts.

Joe Cardona has already made the team . The first player to do so.

It's your analysis that sucks and needs modification.