Who would you give up...

PatsWickedPissah said:

I did not say Kraft was senile, simply time because of his in-actions to move On To Jonathan!

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Jackson 2 said:

I would give up 3 of the 4 Lombardi trophies just to have it publicly confirmed that Harbaby and Pagano and Grigson and Kensil and Anderson and Goodell and Pash and Irsay and Woody and how many others rigged this f###### deck so that the card game was one the New England Patriots could never win. I'll believe that forever.

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robertweathers said:

Screw that!!! Keep the Lombardi's. We saw how hard it was before 2001 and since 2004. Never give those up. Never.

As long as you know the truth everyone else can suck on an egg.

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Jackson 2 said:

Rob, I go way back to day 1 and my post was nothing more than a desperate, frustrating plea for justice. No team and fan base has taken a bigger undeserved screwing from its league, the public, the media and its commissioner than we have. I want vengeance, justifiable vengeance for getting screwed over for years.

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Interception said:

Do you think Jonathan would've handled things any differently than his father? I'm sure Jonathan knows a lot more about the facts than you do and if his father made the decision, i'm sure Jonathan supports him and talked to Robert Kraft throughout the whole process of coming to that decision.

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Interception said:

I'm sure Jonathan knows a lot more about the facts than you do and if his father made the decision, i'm sure Jonathan supports him and talked to Robert Kraft throughout the whole process of coming to that decision.

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robertweathers said:

I hear you Jackson 2....

My Patriots allegiance goes back to the early 80s. Not as far back as you but painful and jubilent times nonetheless.

My belief is that by continuing to win and stocking the Pats HoF with Lombardis pisses off the establishment to no end. Sometimes winning when no one wants you to is the most savory of victories.

On a personal note: watching the Pats beat the Hawks with my 3 children awake when in 04 they were toddlers, infants or not even born yet was one of the happier moments of my life. I refuse to let a- holes like Goody and Kensil take that away from me.

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PatsWickedPissah said:

You are sure. I don't know how you KNOW.
I do not know but am ready to let Jonathan have a go.

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Jackson 2 said:

I'm with you. Our granddaughter was born in 04 and we often tell our daughter that she brought a SB win and a World Series win into the world with her. 30 seconds after we beat the Seahawks,
our now 11 year-old granddaughter texted this to me from her Mom's phone: "Grampy, we won!" That text will never be deleted from my phone. I pick her up at the bus stop after school every Thursday and she said to me this past Thursday, "My friend Doug told me today that Tom Brady and the Patriots are cheaters." I played along and asked her, "What did you say to him?" She said, " I told him he didn't know what he was talking about and he needs to get his facts straight." I love that kid...

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robertweathers said:

That is what is most challenging...arming the kids with comprehendable info that they can refute the nonsense.

That's the part I hate the most..

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