State of the message board.

Well first off I do think the webpage and message board is great. This is where the best pats fans post and the board I check several times a day for breaking news. I love reading this board.

However look at some of these topics over the past few days.

I hope Brady asks for a trade.
Great Grantland article on Kraft selling out Brady
Poll: Best nickname for Bob
Thanks Bob NFL.com Ranks Tom Brady NFL’s No. 5 Quarterback — With An Asterisk
Kraft has Broken Patsfans.
#NoKraftORnobanner
Kraft turning on Brady now too
Benedict Arnold was intelligent and successful too.....
Kraft will get boo'd while hoisting a banner
I hope Brady signs with the Buffalo Bills

That is only some of them. I understand people are upset that Kraft didn't want to get nuclear and sue the league and his fellow owners but some have lost their minds. These are the topics getting the most popular votes as well which at this point is the equivalent of being in a rock band playing a concern standing up on state yelling "No one rocks like the people of (current city name) People eat it up.

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

We are better than this and I cannot wait for the season to start so we can watch this franchise work toward getting ring #5.

It's like parents who don't want to admit Little Johnny may have gotten in trouble at school. I say "may." There are prob 3-4 people who know what happened. And, none of them are posters or Ted Wells.

Don't folks think it might be time to utilize the DeflateGate Forum again. I think we have all had our fill of this B.S. It would be nice to still have the option of talking about it, but maybe as a side topic. I want to see more discussion of the upcoming season and "real" Patriot news. I will still read up on DeflateGate or whatever we want to cal it, but these topics are dominating the board and it is getting a bit much.

ensoul said:

Well first off I do think the webpage and message board is great. This is where the best pats fans post and the board I check several times a day for breaking news. I love reading this board.

However look at some of these topics over the past few days.

I hope Brady asks for a trade.
Great Grantland article on Kraft selling out Brady
Poll: Best nickname for Bob
Thanks Bob NFL.com Ranks Tom Brady NFL’s No. 5 Quarterback — With An Asterisk
Kraft has Broken Patsfans.
#NoKraftORnobanner
Kraft turning on Brady now too
Benedict Arnold was intelligent and successful too.....
Kraft will get boo'd while hoisting a banner
I hope Brady signs with the Buffalo Bills

That is only some of them. I understand people are upset that Kraft didn't want to get nuclear and sue the league and his fellow owners but some have lost their minds. These are the topics getting the most popular votes as well which at this point is the equivalent of being in a rock band playing a concern standing up on state yelling "No one rocks like the people of (current city name) People eat it up.

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

We are better than this and I cannot wait for the season to start so we can watch this franchise work toward getting ring #5.

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Kraft is a coward and a traitor and deserves every negative post about him. I don't know how you could stick up for him or why you would want to.

Emotions are still high, and us fans feel betrayed. There has been nothing to take away that sting. Hopefully Brady will be successful in the appeal and give us fan some hope and leverage with dealing with other fans

While I really hate Kraft's decision, I agree that some of the reaction is over the top. However, this is a fan site. "Fan" derives from fanatic and the site is a reflection of this. Have no fear, though. This will get resolved, training camp and the season will soon be underway, and our fanaticism will be directed to events on the field.

ensoul said:

That is only some of them. I understand people are upset that Kraft didn't want to get nuclear and sue the league and his fellow owners but some have lost their minds.

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He didn't submit an appeal, and said his agenda cannot trump the 31's agenda. White washing this point with a strawman isn't accomplishing anything.

ensoul said:

These are the topics getting the most popular votes as well which at this point is the equivalent of being in a rock band playing a concern standing up on state yelling "No one rocks like the people of (current city name) People eat it up.

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ensoul said:

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

We are better than this and I cannot wait for the season to start so we can watch this franchise work toward getting ring #5.

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We typically discuss the future of the franchise, and during training camp the prospects in the off season. The future of the franchise is that it is currently missing its best player for four games over an absurd investigation. The strange thing would be if we ignored this point when looking at the upcoming season.

ensoul said:

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

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Kraft didn't stick up for us, he stabbed us in the back "for the good of the 32"

Bobsyouruncle said:

He didn't submit an appeal, and said his agenda cannot trump the 31's agenda. White washing this point with a strawman isn't accomplishing anything.

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In what forum can he submit an appeal?? What is the precedent??

Eh, I give Kraft until Round #1 of the 2016 draft before I judge anything, and the Benedict Arnold thing is a bit much. Kraft did not offer the capture of Washington (Brady) to the Brits (Goodell) and try to become a general for the Brits.

BTW, **** the Starbucks ad that makes the screen scroll up even though I'm down here. Ian should be congratulated for putting up with them.

DarrylS said:

In what forum can he submit an appeal?? What is the precedent??

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I would imagine with the other 31 but highly doubt they would stick up for their competition

I have suggested separating the deflate gate discussions. NO ONE wanted to do it. I suggested using the Draft Board for the vey few who wanted to have discussions other than deflate gate. NO ONE was interested.

OPTION 1
Use the Deflategate sub-board for discussions of deflategate. That won't happen. Folks have derailed the the Board, and folks who are interested in football check in once in awhile, if at all.

OPTION 2
Recognize the regular board has been hijacked. Have a sub-board for specialized discussion (football), as we have had in the past.

OPTION 3
Check in once in awhile or not bother until September.
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BTW, Ian could certainly create or use a sub-board for football discussion. He choosing not to.

ensoul said:

Well first off I do think the webpage and message board is great. This is where the best pats fans post and the board I check several times a day for breaking news. I love reading this board.

However look at some of these topics over the past few days.

I hope Brady asks for a trade.
Great Grantland article on Kraft selling out Brady
Poll: Best nickname for Bob
Thanks Bob NFL.com Ranks Tom Brady NFL’s No. 5 Quarterback — With An Asterisk
Kraft has Broken Patsfans.
#NoKraftORnobanner
Kraft turning on Brady now too
Benedict Arnold was intelligent and successful too.....
Kraft will get boo'd while hoisting a banner
I hope Brady signs with the Buffalo Bills

That is only some of them. I understand people are upset that Kraft didn't want to get nuclear and sue the league and his fellow owners but some have lost their minds. These are the topics getting the most popular votes as well which at this point is the equivalent of being in a rock band playing a concern standing up on state yelling "No one rocks like the people of (current city name) People eat it up.

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

We are better than this and I cannot wait for the season to start so we can watch this franchise work toward getting ring #5.

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Folks want to whine and vent. They have no interest in discussion football.

ensoul said:

Well first off I do think the webpage and message board is great. This is where the best pats fans post and the board I check several times a day for breaking news. I love reading this board.

However look at some of these topics over the past few days.

I hope Brady asks for a trade.
Great Grantland article on Kraft selling out Brady
Poll: Best nickname for Bob
Thanks Bob NFL.com Ranks Tom Brady NFL’s No. 5 Quarterback — With An Asterisk
Kraft has Broken Patsfans.
#NoKraftORnobanner
Kraft turning on Brady now too
Benedict Arnold was intelligent and successful too.....
Kraft will get boo'd while hoisting a banner
I hope Brady signs with the Buffalo Bills

That is only some of them. I understand people are upset that Kraft didn't want to get nuclear and sue the league and his fellow owners but some have lost their minds. These are the topics getting the most popular votes as well which at this point is the equivalent of being in a rock band playing a concern standing up on state yelling "No one rocks like the people of (current city name) People eat it up.

God forbid you stick up for Kraft or have a different view because the dislikes will rain down. I know it is the offseason and its slow but I this board has been rough the past week.

We are better than this and I cannot wait for the season to start so we can watch this franchise work toward getting ring #5.

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DarrylS said:

In what forum can he submit an appeal?? What is the precedent??

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I don't understand the question. The team could appeal, Kraft chose not to. Many teams have appealed their punishments, some have won.

Here's a thought .... utilize your "free will" and avoid those topics that get you in a tizzy. Must we coddle those that require all to think as they do?

There is nothing to discuss that is football related, we are in the dead season until training camp starts.

It's not like there is a lot of other things to talk about.

I guess we could all join hand and sing Kumbaya, ignoring the main news story. Then we can all stick our head in a hole like an ostrich and pretend Kraft didn't just flip fans the bird and throw TB under the bus.

Or we can post quotes from the famed Boston media on how Kraft had no choice and is doing the only thing he can. That would be much better. Maybe have Borges as a featured topic writer.

So... let me see if I have this right. Your solution to there not being enough posts about football analysis is to make a post that's not about football analysis and condemn the other posters who also have opinions about things?

We don't need a darn sub forum. If you want to post about football- just do it. Nobody is stopping you. I just made a post about a feel-good offseason story about Randy Moss that was very well received.

mgteich said:

Folks want to whine

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Ya that's it. God forbid Pats fans come to a Pats board and talk about Pats related stuff.