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If you have a closed mind about Kraft's actions and still deeply hurt
then this article will probably not help you. But if you're open to consider what motivated
Mr. Kraft this article may help you understand the dilemma Mr Kraft faced and why
facing the potential outcomes he took the action that has hurt us all deeply.
By the way if you think Mr Kraft is not hurting , you're dead wrong. He probably hurts
more than any of us.

Rich Levine has done a great job with helping us to understand the situation.
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/in-defense-of-robert-kraft-and-the-new-england-patriots
Crap article. He suggests Bob "detests" Goodell after the public hug and public statement supporting him? Please. He also makes the mistake others have made saying it came down to the appeal being a losing proposition. Most of us didn't even care about losing the fight as much as showing some fight. Levine is as spineless as our owner.
 
Its one thing to take the action ( which was bad enough). But its another to be schmucking and hugging it up with your enemy, photos and everything.
 
JR4-

I am always open to hearing a reasonable explanation for the decision. Where is it?

Money for the suit is irrelevant. He'll remember this disrespect from Goody? That means nothing after the Spygate sanctions and the severity then. Dragging on? It will drag on, next season and beyond. The writer is delusional if he believes otherwise. Spygate rhetoric died right after Kraft ate that decision, right?

Anyone who believes the Pats are cheaters will likely keep that opinion. Spygate cements that. But this reads like a battered wife rationalizing the abuse she endures daily. "He had a bad day." "He said he was really sorry." Not comparing the scenarios, just the type of response. "It's only two draft picks." "Nobody would really care." "It would cost a lot."

Al Davis did not win the suits. Sometimes you win when when you lose. Fighting the bully in school when he is bigger and stronger and you will likely lose the fight earns respect from others for taking a stand and holding your ground. Hiding in the classroom and waiting for your parents to pick you up from school does not.

Anyone believing Kraft's suit against the NFL was a likely win is fooling themselves (any educated attorney with knowledge of the legal standards would likely agree). Just like Davis, the goal was to bloody the NFL's lip and make it clear it will get ugly if the league opposes your interests again. That is what was lost by capitulating here.
 
He lost me at "the Pats aren't innocent." If they're guilty, WHERE'S THE PROOF?
 
read the article...complete crap. Reads like someone trying to make excuses...he wants to be forgiving so he rationalizes it. If you're innocent, you don't concede. If the Patriots are guilty, then they deserve our scorn too for not owning up to it.

Millions? So what? He's worth hundreds of times that much.

Assuming that you're worth 1 million dollars, is it worth 5,000 in legal fees to try and clear your name? That's essentially what we're talking about in the ratio of cost to worth.

Also,this "owners will be against him" crap is just that. As long as Kraft can bring in the TV contracts, they're more than happy having him an owner.
 
After today's NFL sanctioned trolling of Patriots fans, I expect an apology from Kraft himself to all Patriots fans. I thought his rolling over was meant to "stop the rhetoric." Bob Kraft is a naive fool.
 
Al Davis did not win the suits. Sometimes you win when when you lose. Fighting the bully in school when he is bigger and stronger and you will likely lose the fight earns respect from others for taking a stand and holding your ground. Hiding in the classroom and waiting for your parents to pick you up from school does not.

Anyone believing Kraft's suit against the NFL was a likely win is fooling themselves (any educated attorney with knowledge of the legal standards would likely agree). Just like Davis, the goal was to bloody the NFL's lip and make it clear it will get ugly if the league opposes your interests again. That is what was lost by capitulating here.

To add to this- even if Kraft didn't have the ability to stomach a lengthy court battle (and I don't blame him in this regard, as many people hate being in court), he could have at the very least said something along this line:

"We categorically reject the NFL's verdict which was returned on very circumstantial, prejudicial "evidence." We reiterate that we did absolutely nothing wrong, and stand behind our team, our coach, and most of all, our quarterback. We have complete trust in him, and have no doubt that he did nothing wrong.

However, for sake of the game itself, and for the fans, and especially the team, as far as unwelcome distractions for this upcoming season, we will not be seeking legal remedy, and have chosen to simply focus on preparing for another great season.
"

There were way too many 'I's in his statement. He seems to have forgotten there is no 'i' in 'team.'

It was a terrible statement, and one that I think he made by himself without much consultation or any deep, soulful thinking. As the years move on, he is going to want that one back.
 
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Al Davis did not win the suits. Sometimes you win when when you lose. Fighting the bully in school when he is bigger and stronger and you will likely lose the fight earns respect from others for taking a stand and holding your ground. Hiding in the classroom and waiting for your parents to pick you up from school does not.


Al Davis sued the NFL twice. He went 1-1.
 
If you have a closed mind about Kraft's actions and still deeply hurt
then this article will probably not help you. But if you're open to consider what motivated
Mr. Kraft this article may help you understand the dilemma Mr Kraft faced and why
facing the potential outcomes he took the action that has hurt us all deeply.
By the way if you think Mr Kraft is not hurting , you're dead wrong. He probably hurts
more than any of us.

Rich Levine has done a great job with helping us to understand the situation.
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/in-defense-of-robert-kraft-and-the-new-england-patriots


Here is the problem. He only states 3 options of how Kraft could have fought this. There is a forth option and that was to stand your ground at the owners meeting. Present your case to the rest of the owners and leave the owners meeting without making a decision one way or another. Put pressure on Goodell to reduce the sentence. Make a stand. If Kraft has the "respect" of the owners as everyone says he has then they would have respected his fight for his team. I understand what Kraft has done for the Patriots but this spineless announcement is something that will tarnish his Legacy. He just had to put up a fight. No one expected him to win it just show some backbone.
 
Here is the problem. He only states 3 options of how Kraft could have fought this. There is a forth option and that was to stand your ground at the owners meeting. Present your case to the rest of the owners and leave the owners meeting without making a decision one way or another. Put pressure on Goodell to reduce the sentence. Make a stand. If Kraft has the "respect" of the owners as everyone says he has then they would have respected his fight for his team. I understand what Kraft has done for the Patriots but this spineless announcement is something that will tarnish his Legacy. He just had to put up a fight. No one expected him to win it just show some backbone.

I believe his decision was made before he when into that meeting. After considering all the options and
contemplating all the repercussions with his legal staff and top management of all the decisions he could make including the reaction of the fans he decided the best thing to do at that point in time was to forget the appeal. By the way, that doesn't mean a court process is not forthcoming does it? Suppose he knew an appeal had no chance and has decided at some point in the future to sue?
 
I believe his decision was made before he when into that meeting. After considering all the options and
contemplating all the repercussions with his legal staff and top management of all the decisions he could make including the reaction of the fans he decided the best thing to do at that point in time was to forget the appeal. By the way, that doesn't mean a court process is not forthcoming does it? Suppose he knew an appeal had no chance and has decided at some point in the future to sue?

Suppose elephants around the world have started pooping gold nuggets!
 
Hey, Tedy Bruschi is a company guy. He'll back Kraft all the way! Oh, wait...

“I’d like to see where it goes for [Brady],” Bruschi said. “I’d like to see him exhibit that fight that all of us wanted Mr. Kraft to have.

“Did I want [Kraft] to fight? Would I have fought? Absolutely. But I’m a player. I’m a former player, Colin. [Kraft] is a member of probably the most exclusive fraternity in sports. The membership, as they call it. The membership is 32 on the entire earth to own a team on the National Football League, which is highly profitable.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england...schi-wants-to-see-some-fight-out-of-tom-brady

So.... Tedy must be a Patsfans.com poster, then?
 
I believe his decision was made before he when into that meeting. After considering all the options and
contemplating all the repercussions with his legal staff and top management of all the decisions he could make including the reaction of the fans he decided the best thing to do at that point in time was to forget the appeal. By the way, that doesn't mean a court process is not forthcoming does it? Suppose he knew an appeal had no chance and has decided at some point in the future to sue?

He ended the possibility of any further action with that announcement unless you think that if Brady's law suit exposes the NFL in a new light that he may change his position. To me he could have left the owners meeting without making any decision. If he is as respected as everyone says he is then that should have meant something. Would be nice if your right but for right now it looks like he just folded prematurely.
 
Al Davis sued the NFL twice. He went 1-1.

On a related out, and acknowledging the substance of Davis's win against the NFL, would you label a Kraft victory as improbable, a possibility or a strong possibility? Assume the universe of evidence is the Wells report, the media leaked information and the punishment. I cannot say with a straight face he would have won that fight. As stated previously, I don't think he should have declined to pursue the action unless he got something very valuable (ie., a striking of all punishments imposed) in return.
 
On a related out, and acknowledging the substance of Davis's win against the NFL, would you label a Kraft victory as improbable, a possibility or a strong possibility?

I can have no way of knowing without knowing their strategy.


Assume the universe of evidence is the Wells report, the media leaked information and the punishment. I cannot say with a straight face he would have won that fight. As stated previously, I don't think he should have declined to pursue the action unless he got something very valuable (ie., a striking of all punishments imposed) in return.


The Wells report is a joke. A first year lawyer could shred it. If the case was just going to be all about beating the Wells report, and only the Wells report, the Patriots would have won in a matter of hours.
 
You apparently did not comprehend what the man said. It does not matter if it was a sting operation
or that the Well's report is bogus or anything. No action he can take will eliminate the stain of the
"cheater label". Even if he wins in court and if he wins in court it may even make it worst.
Even before the Wells report was issued there were a lot of stories guessing that the league and the Colts were in the crosshairs. People were starting to relax on this one, but the report got them all crazy again.
 
I can have no way of knowing without knowing their strategy.

The Wells report is a joke. A first year lawyer could shred it. If the case was just going to be all about beating the Wells report, and only the Wells report, the Patriots would have won in a matter of hours.

The Wells report is pure garbage for whatever proposition it is offered to support. That is not really the legal question I was asking. In law school and afterwards, you want factual definition to the legal problem. I wasn't suggesting the report was valuable to the NFL. It may be to the Patriots if they were to go forward.

Not sure what your area of practice is in law, but the Davis win was predicated on Rule 4.3 of Article IV, specific to stadium relocations and the requirements therefor. The claim was antitrust. The Ninth Circuit essentially affirmed what the Supreme Court recently decided once and for all in American Needle (NFL not a single entity). It assessed the reasonableness of the territorial restrain in the bylaws, and affirmed the finding that it was unreasonable under the facts and thereby violated the antitrust laws.

The Constitution and Bylaws have changed since 1978 (not exactly the same issue, as the NFL has learned some lessons since then). In the winning case, the Raiders were unanimously shut down in an owners vote by a territorial restriction created shortly before (1 against the world). The fact the report is a hack job is not a claim in itself. It undercuts evidence supporting some legal claim. A federal action would not be premised on a lack of evidence to support an NFL violation. I assume it would be a return to the antitrust act, and be a claim the disciplinary system constitutes an illegal restraint on trade in its arbitrary action. Having reviewed arbitration decisions, no way do I see that standard helping here. The antitrust act argument would appear to be a steeper climb given the unanimous action by the NFL rather than the decision of the NFL officers.

I just wanted to see if you had thought through theories. Out of curiosity, I looked at the law and constitution and bylaws to see what might be there. It looked to me like the possibilities were not awesome. However, many cases settle on a pure embarrassment/discomfort factor, so I would absolutely want to see the NFL and owners squirm on this, regardless of likely outcomes. Much of this case is about public regard, not money or picks, so quiet resolutions do nothing in that regard.
 
I'd like to know what went on between Saturday when Kraft spoke to Peter King and Tuesday. The guy on Saturday was still full of anger and fight. On Tuesday he sounded like a utterly broken man. I'd really like to know who said what to him or what he was threatened with.
 
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