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False dichotomy. Kraft's options weren't limited to :

A) File an unwinnable lawsuit
B) Call a press conference so that he could unconditionally capitulate to Goodell's demands while explaining that the rest of the league is more important to him than the Patriots, their fans, and their quarterback.

There were plenty of other options. He earned every last ounce of the hate that he's getting now. Frankly, I don't think he's getting enough.

As a billionaire businessman, I can understand that maybe he just valued the NFL's interests more than the Patriots. In any case, I don't know the details and coming to that conclusion without the proper information available is just an assumption. I refuse to get worked up and hate a man over an assumption.

If I was him, maybe I would've handled it differently. But I am less invested and have less information about the case than he does.
 
good post..but irrational people always think they know best..and first reaction is to hate on someone.
I might be in the minority, but I don't give a rats behind what other fans or media idiots think. So they call us cheaters...big freaken deal..does that take away any pride and jubilation I felt watching us win another SB? Not in the slighest.
 
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Please refer to the edit in my original post.
 
What has Kraft does for this organization?
Bill Belichick would not be here without Kraft. Considering that fact, Brady would most likely not be here without Kraft either. Without those two, we would not have four Super Bowl championships. Without Kraft, this organization would still be where it was prior to Kraft -- a laughing stock.

How much do you really know about what happened? Imagine this scenario --
Goodell and Kraft had a talk. Kraft had a talk with his lawyers. It was made clear to him that suing the league would not result in any positive outcome for the patriots, much like it never has for any team vs NFL lawsuit in the past. For a team to sue the league and win is unheard of. It is just not possible, considering Kraft is the one who helped make the rules of the CBA. In this case, Kraft had two options:
1. Fight a meaningless fight in which both the organization and the league that he his a part of loses.
2. Surrender, have the same outcome, save the organization from being spited even more by the League.

Imagine if you were the owner. Now imagine you were fighting a war you couldn't win. It doesn't matter if we think you could win, it doesn't matter if the media thinks you could have one. The professionals (lawyers, inner circle) you are paying millions of dollars to you tell you that you cannot win. What do you do?
a) fight against the league despite not being able to win, lose money and tarnish the reputation of the league you are a part of.
b) reluctantly accept the penalties and work to ensure that these standards are changed in the future, thus saving your relationships with your partners and not tarnishing the league further.

As a billionaire running a business, choice B is the logical answer. Choice A is fueled by anger and destruction.
So imagine you went with the logical choice... And then heard this anger and hate towards you from fans who aren't even informed of the entire situation. Pretty hurtful right?

Would Kraft have backed down if he had been told he had a great chance of winning this?
Kraft is a patriots fan who has attended a game every season since the team was formed. He was such a huge fan, in fact, that he bought the team and invested in it to make it was it is. No matter what you've spent on the Patriots, Kraft spent more to make them what they are today.

You have no idea what went on behind closed doors. Sure, he could've fought for his "fans." But maybe this is what was the best of all the crappy options available. Maybe this was the way to do the least damage to the sport.

Let's be honest. We're all NFL fans. Without the NFL, the patriots would be nothing. This is indeed bigger than the patriots. You can't say you hate the NFL but then watch NFL games and love an NFL franchise so much.
Being a Patriots fan makes you a fan of the NFL because the patriots are the NFL.

Kraft has history with the NFL. He has relationships. He has a responsibility to the Patriots and a love for the Patriots, which is why he was initially so angry.
He calmed down, saw his options, and made the choice.

This is the owner who made the Patriots what they are. If he says this is what was best for the Patriots AND the NFL, and asks for trust, then I'll trust him. After all, he's been a Patriots fan longer than me and has way more invested in the team than me.



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Please keep personal insults out of your disagreements with me!
I do not mind having a respectful debate. I have lurked for years and know most of you somewhat well, I would like to keep the respect I have for you guys.

Also, please don't reply unless you have a point to make. For example, simply replying "wall of text" does not add to the discussion but just fills the thread and forum with meaningless spam just because of a disagreeing opinion.

Thank you!

What a load of crap.
 
As a billionaire businessman, I can understand that maybe he just valued the NFL's interests more than the Patriots. In any case, I don't know the details and coming to that conclusion without the proper information available is just an assumption. I refuse to get worked up and hate a man over an assumption.

If I was him, maybe I would've handled it differently. But I am less invested and have less information about the case than he does.

He made it very clear that that's the case. And that's exactly why he's getting all of this well-deserved hate now. He threw us, his own team, and his QB under the bus. If you're okay with that, then that's on you, but right-minded fans everywhere just aren't and never will be. We deserve better.
 
good post..but irrational people always think they know best..and first reaction is to hate on someone.
I might be in the minority, but I don't give a rats behind what other fans or media idiots think. So they call us cheaters...big freaken deal..does that take away any pride and jubilation I felt watching us win another SB? Not in the slighest.

I'm surprised by how much people care what other fans think... Caring so much about someone's opinion about your own team will never lead to satisfaction. Someone will always have something negative to say.
 
He made it very clear that that's the case. And that's exactly why he's getting all of this well-deserved hate now. He threw us, his own team, and his QB under the bus. If he's able to ever show his face in Gillette again it will be better than he deserves.

I don't think he made it clear. He asked Patriots fans to trust that this was the best decision for not only the NFL but the team as well.

Considering Gillete is his property, he can show his face there more than you can.
 
I don't think he made it clear. He asked Patriots fans to trust that this was the best decision for not only the NFL but the team as well.

Considering Gillete is his property, he can show his face there more than you can.

If he's met with deafening boos everytime he shows his face--as he should be--it won't matter what he owns.

And I have no intention of ever going back there anyway.
 
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What a load of crap.

Guess you weren't able to read the edit either. But considering the amount of disrespect you already have from this board, maybe it's better if I just don't get involved in it.
 
I don't think he made it clear. He asked Patriots fans to trust that this was the best decision for not only the NFL but the team as well.

Considering Gillete is his property, he can show his face there more than you can.

He flat out said it.

At the owners meetings, Kraft said he was putting the league before his franchise because "at no time should the agenda of one team outweigh the collective good of the 32.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/things-owners-meetings-31139119

Now, enough with the nonsense.
 
Dont like to make a movie reference generally but like in 'Rocky' , "its not about winning the fight, its about going the distance". that wouldve earned him respect here. At the very least he shouldve appealed.
 

Well I agree the collective good of all 32 is more important than any single franchise... If everyone focused on their own franchise without the good of the NFL, the NFL would cease to exist. This is bigger than one team. We might hate our punishments, but we weren't so worked up when they were handed out to teams like the Saints with little proof, were we?
 
As a billionaire businessman, I can understand that maybe he just valued the NFL's interests more than the Patriots. In any case, I don't know the details and coming to that conclusion without the proper information available is just an assumption. I refuse to get worked up and hate a man over an assumption.

If I was him, maybe I would've handled it differently. But I am less invested and have less information about the case than he does.
We are reacting on the basis of information we have. It's incumbent on Kraft to release additional information if he wants us to change our opinions. I should have added lack of transparency to the list in my earlier post.
 
Guess you weren't able to read the edit either. But considering the amount of disrespect you already have from this board, maybe it's better if I just don't get involved in it.

I read what you wrote, and I've got some news for you. Calling your post a piece of crap is not a personal attack on you. It's calling your post a piece of crap.
 
Dont like to make a movie reference generally but like in 'Rocky' , "its not about winning the fight, its about going the distance". that wouldve earned him respect here. At the very least he shouldve appealed.

Going the distance is silly if it does nothing but damage both the Patriots and the NFL, which is a possible outcome.
 
Well I agree the collective good of all 32 is more important than any single franchise... If everyone focused on their own franchise without the good of the NFL, the NFL would cease to exist. This is bigger than one team. We might hate our punishments, but we weren't so worked up when they were handed out to teams like the Saints with little proof, were we?

And this post is completely idiotic.
 
We are reacting on the basis of information we have. It is incumbent on Kraft to release additional information if he wants us to change our opinions. I should have added lack of transparency to the list in my earlier post.

I completely agree with that. I would love more information. Then again, there are some things that might be better not to be released.
Happens with any large organization, including our government. Some things are kept secret for the collective good. Maybe Kraft wants to release more but has been advised against doing so.
 
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