Kraft turning on Brady now too

FCB02062 said:

Can we please stop calling him "Mr. Kraft"????

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I'll stop calling him Mr. Kraft when he gets the respect he deserves on this forum for what he has done for
our Patriots over the last 20 years. How fast some people turn on their own and believe the worst
forgetting the history that they share. Being the owner aside, He was, is and will be a fan and hurts
by injustice just like any fan.

vyrago said:

I'm amazed and saddened to see how quickly this board turned on the owner who was one considered a hero because he won't engage in a no-win fight

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It might have been a no-win fight but he didn't fight at all. Chose billionaire owners and other fans over fans of his own team.

Well since everything seems to be spiraling down to a worse case scenario, I have a bad feeling that this is probably true. If it is, goodbye Pats for me. That would be the last straw!

patsfaninpa said:

My aunt-cousin told me she saw Jonathan Kraft wearing a #10 jersey at work the other day.

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Are you sure you're not from West Virginia?

vyrago said:

I'm amazed and saddened to see how quickly this board turned on the owner who was once considered a hero because he won't engage in a no-win fight. The sexual insults and the anti-Semitism are really disgusting.

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Anti-Semitism? If so disgusting....sexual ok. Hero? On the backs of BB and TFB who when he needed to didn't back them. We all make choices, what happens with those choices is on us

vyrago said:

I'm amazed and saddened to see how quickly this board turned on the owner who was once considered a hero because he won't engage in a no-win fight. The sexual insults and the anti-Semitism are really disgusting.

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The real anger is not about his quitting, the real anger is about the false hope that he offered and then without any visible change in conditions or circumstance he does a 180 degree about face.
The anger is very much a function of buyer remorse. He offered we bought and then found what he offered was not in truth what he delivered to us.

Rawky77 said:

The real anger is not about his quitting, the real anger is about the false hope that he offered and then without any visible change in conditions or circumstance he does a 180 degree about face.
The anger is very much a function of buyer remorse. He offered we bought and then found what he offered was not in truth what he delivered to us.

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nevermind quitting...he didn't even bother putting up a fight

If this is true I hope Brady tells spineless bob to go f*ck himself.

Kraft calls Brady:

Kraft: "Tom? Is that you?"

Gisele: "No, it is Gisele."

Kraft: "Oh, hi. This is Bob. I need to talk to Tom."

Gisele: "About what?"

Kraft: "I need to convince Tom to accept the punishment given by Roger."

Gisele: "What?"

Kraft: "It's for the betterment of the league as a whole. We need to put this behind us as soon as poss...."

-DIALTONE-

Kraft: "Gisele? Hello? Is anyone there?"

AndyJohnson said:

Link
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...gian_stunning_to_see_robert_kraft_cave_to_nfl

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This is f'n insane. Kraft is a scumbag.

AndyJohnson said:

Link
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...gian_stunning_to_see_robert_kraft_cave_to_nfl

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Frankly this is what I suspected. Goodell doesn't want to go to court with Kessler so he made a deal with kraft to reduce the penalty to 2 or 1 games as long as kraft makes sure Brady accepts it and doesn't go to court because if he does he is indirectly fighting the owners . I worry if Brady accepts this

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JR4 said:

I'll stop calling him Mr. Kraft when he gets the respect he deserves on this forum for what he has done for
our Patriots over the last 20 years. How fast some people turn on their own and believe the worst
forgetting the history that they share. Being the owner aside, He was, is and will be a fan and hurts
by injustice just like any fan.

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I have supported Kraft since he bought the team and argued with those who called him cheap etc..... However in this case he earned the enmity directed at him. He had a lengthy defense of the Patriots prepared and had fans across the country using it to support his team and their claim of innocence, however once he went to the league meetings he chose to side with his billionaire buddies over the fans who have supported his franchise for decades. That choice was his and he has to deal with the fallout from it. Personally I will never voice support for him again because he left us all hanging when it mattered the most. I won't boo him but I will never cheer him or support him in any argument again. I will also continue to boycott any and all NFL merchandize for as long as Goodell and Kensil are at the league office.

The difference between Mr. Kraft and Tom Brady is one of them is a fighter. Brady won't back down.

Kraft was striking no deal on the couch with RG, he was jerking him off like the punk that he is. If true if I were Brady I'd be heated, how dare you going striking deals with that pos on my be behalf thinking I'll just lay down and take it up the ass like you.

FrodoBagginz said:

Kraft calls Brady:

Kraft: "Tom? Is that you?"

Gisele: "No, it is Gisele."

Kraft: "Oh, hi. This is Bob. I need to talk to Tom."

Gisele: "About what?"

Kraft: "I need to convince Tom to accept the punishment given by Roger."

Gisele: "What?"

Kraft: "It's for the betterment of the league as a whole. We need to put this behind us as soon as poss...."

-DIALTONE-

Kraft: "Gisele? Hello? Is anyone there?"

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Next call.....
Gisele: Listen you Matza eating surrender monkey, stop calling Tommy....and tell your whore of a "niece" to stop dropping by our mansion and staring at my ass!"

vyrago said:

I'm amazed and saddened to see how quickly this board turned on the owner who was once considered a hero because he won't engage in a no-win fight. The sexual insults and the anti-Semitism are really disgusting.

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If Kraft had fought and lost at least it would be seen like this. 'i believe my qb, we didn't cheat' But by surrendering kraft is saying...'we cheated, why bother fighting, we did it. I could respect that, i can't respect kraft after surrendering. It forever tarnishes the legacy of the team.

If this is true, I hope Brady demands a release or simply retires, then the next day BB calls a press conference and announces he will retire.

I have defended Kraft over the years over the cheap moniker even in accepting spygate punishment.

However in this case he betrayed his customers for some of his vendors. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

IMO Brady is unquestionably the GOAT and far and away the best QB I have seen, going back to Bobby Layne, Unitas Starr ect.

The scumbags at the NFL ran their sting being ignorant of the basic laws of physics. Now that the pressure is on and the science proves their case wrong they want Brady go along get along.

This is about a lot more than 4 d*mn games, this is about his legacy, honor and all that.

EVEN IF Goodell were to totally drop the suspension Brady needs to sue, expose the whole rotten mess in court to try to get some of his shattered reputation back. What is being done to Brady is far worse than anything that was done to the organization.



Sideshow bob can go F himself.

If Kraft tries, it will be a very short conversation. No way Brady backs down.