Great Article - In Defense of Robert Kraft

If you have a closed mind about Kraft's actions and still deeply hurt
then this article will probably not help you. But if you're open to consider what motivated
Mr. Kraft this article may help you understand the dilemma Mr Kraft faced and why
facing the potential outcomes he took the action that has hurt us all deeply.
By the way if you think Mr Kraft is not hurting , you're dead wrong. He probably hurts
more than any of us.

Rich Levine has done a great job with helping us to understand the situation.
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/in-defense-of-robert-kraft-and-the-new-england-patriots

did goodell apologize yet?? still waiting?

That was better than Id expected.

Maybe I'll step back from the ledge for a bit

The article is written from the perspective of the Pats being guilty (he says "the Pats aren’t innocent") so, I guess his narrative works.

No, it's not a great article. It's good in analyzing why he didn't sue. But it doesn't explain or justify the timidity of the press conference.

Worse, the opening of the article makes it sounds as if he WILL address that point. So, like Kraft himself, the author didn't deliver what he himself seemingly promised.

Bobs My Uncle said:

The article is written from the perspective of the Pats being guilty (he says "the Pats aren’t innocent") so, I guess his narrative works.

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Man you need to re-read that or you are deliberately trying to mislead us.
What you have done is taken a phrase out of context which is pretext.
He was trying to make a point about the assertion people make saying "the Pats aren’t innocent".
Re-read.

If we assume the Pats did anything illegal and that the NFL didn't execute a sting followed by a BS report I would agree with Levine.


HOWEVER, there was a sting, there were leaks that were straight up lies, there was an 'investigation' that was a shame and the balls behaved according to the Ideal Gas LAw.

So Kraft F'd up big time, but perhaps it will help Levine gain Better access in Foxboro.

The article tells us what we all already know. The fight would cost lots of money, take lots of time, may not be won, and would not change anybody's minds about the cheater label.

So, faulking what? Standing up for what you believe in and going to the mat is what we are all about. Telling me that it would be hard and maybe fruitless? I don't give a flying faulk.

I am too angry at the NFL to even have any anger left over for Kraft. Do I like what BK did? No... but I get it and have to live with it.

My issue that this never should have gotten to this point in the first place. But given how corrupt the world is and how many slimeballs are in society nothing should surprise me.

JR4 said:

Man you need to re-read that or you are deliberately trying to mislead us.
What you have done is taken a phrase out of context which is pretext.
He was trying to make a point about the assertion people make saying "the Pats aren’t innocent".
Re-read.

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from the article in the OP:

Well, here’s the thing about that: The Pats aren’t innocent. Even if they are, perception is reality and reality was set in stone a long time ago.

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patsfan13 said:

If we assume the Pats did anything illegal and that the NFL didn't execute a sting followed by a BS report I would agree with Levine.


HOWEVER, there was a sting, there were leaks that were straight up lies, there was an 'investigation' that was a shame and the balls behaved according to the Ideal Gas LAw.

So Kraft F'd up big time, but perhaps it will help Levine gain Better access in Foxboro.

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You apparently did not comprehend what the man said. It does not matter if it was a sting operation
or that the Well's report is bogus or anything. No action he can take will eliminate the stain of the
"cheater label". Even if he wins in court and if he wins in court it may even make it worst.

I would like proof of these "millions of dollars" in legal fees.
I am very dubious of that.

1) A federal arbitration claim, where he’d have to prove the discipline was excessive and arbitrary and that the NFL didn't correctly apply its own rules.

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Is not the punishment for this offense $20,000 ?

Terrible article.

If Bob Kraft filed an appeal of the findings and punishment, and presented his case, brought in science experts, had The Deflator, Dorito Dink, etc testify, and in the end Goodell refused to change his ruling, and THEN Kraft stood up and said "I understand this may not be popular, but I fought as far as I could. I cannot in good faith take the next step of suing my own business partners. I know, Tom Brady knows, and all of our fans know that we are being penalized for something we didn't do, but unfortunately we have no options left. I also want to let Tommy know that he has my full support in his appeal and is welcome to use all of the data and evidence we have developed" then I and probably every Patriot fan would have no issue with Kraft. In fact, I would have commended him.
He missed that by 1,000.
Instead he said that he is stuck between the support of the Patriots fans and the other fans that feel the other way. He said what is best for this team doesn't matter unless it is best for all 32. He said he still had options to fight, but it has taken too long, so he quits.

Blah blah blah, he don't care bout fans, it's about money son

1) A federal arbitration claim, where he’d have to prove the discipline was excessive and arbitrary and that the NFL didn't correctly apply its own rules.

Sounds perfect to me, a court case that drags on? So what? Whats infinitely worse is accepting all penalties from the league because everyones afraid of going the long haul to stop this Emperor Goodell madness. I pretty much disagree with the entire article. Unfortunately a day later and I still have no sympathy for Kraft. Not sure this is ever going to feel the same, for me.

see what you quoted
"Well, here’s the thing about that: The Pats aren’t innocent. Even if they are, perception is reality and reality was set in stone a long time ago."

See the : after the word 'that'. What follows to the end of the sentence is referenced by the word 'that'
Let me add quotes to help understanding:

"Well, here’s the thing about that: 'The Pats aren’t innocent'. Even if they are, perception is reality and reality was set in stone a long time ago."

He's making a comment about what some people are saying which is: 'The Pats aren’t innocent'.

JR4 said:

You apparently did not comprehend what the man said. It does not matter if it was a sting operation
or that the Well's report is bogus or anything. No action he can take will eliminate the stain of the
"cheater label". Even if he wins in court and if he wins in court it may even make it worst.

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He failed to appeal. He quit. He quit on Tom Brady, he quit on his fans. No one is asking him to sue his business partners, just to appeal the wrong decision and make a case.

As far as the cheater label, Exhibit 1 is "Your owner knows you cheated thats why he didn't even appeal"
While you may be right that no verdict would change the mind of the haters, what Kraft did yesterday was give the most convincing evidence to those on the fence. More people consider the Patriots cheaters after that press conference than ever before.

The gist of the article:

"If you think you might lose, don't fight"

"Even if you are being unfairly accused, don't fight"

"Even if the door is open to have this same situation repeat ad infinitum, don't fight"

The article is a sham - how can any self respecting fan accept that unjustified and punitive penalties on their team are simply the price of 'doing business'.

Lets also remember that it was the NFL that started the fire, then absolutely stood by and fanned the flames of outrage....now they need Bob Kraft to do the right thing and extinguish the mess?

Really?

I feel sad for anyone buying this awful line of cowardly reasoning.

Terrible article. The coward quit on us to save his money and his relationship with his true team...the other owners.

ChoWZa said:

1) A federal arbitration claim, where he’d have to prove the discipline was excessive and arbitrary and that the NFL didn't correctly apply its own rules.

Sounds perfect to me, a court case that drags on? So what? Whats infinitely worse is accepting all penalties from the league because everyones afraid of going the long haul to stop this Emperor Goodell madness. I pretty much disagree with the entire article. Unfortunately a day later and I still have no sympathy for Kraft. Not sure this is ever going to feel the same, for me.

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What is the purpose of going to court? To get Patriots good name back by winning the case?
Won't work. The people reporting it still hate the PATS and you can bet any article reporting the
victory will come out with "PATRIOTS GET AWAY WITH VIOLATING THE RULES" or something
similar.
And if they lose the case ....

This is, unfortunately, a NO WIN situation for us.