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I don't think there is. Jerry Jones has been mentioned, but in this article he threatens to sue, pretty much like Kraft did, then withdraws the threat.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...wboys-cap-penalty-nfl-approved-our-contracts/

So, if there's no appeal, he sues the league in federal court.

Any lawyers here give me the basis of that suit?

We [owners] gave Goodell unlimited powers, now we want to sue him for using them.

Thoughts?
 
I don't know the exact clause that covers this, but there were several articles about the Patriots having a May 21 deadline to appeal their penalties. Here's one of them:

http://nep.247sports.com/Bolt/May-21-looms-as-Patriots-organizations-appeal-deadline-37299046

So it seems there's some sort of mechanism for appeal. Though it's probably worse than a Dubai tribunal. At least in Dubai, they appoint their cousin to decide so it doesn't look like a total ****ing sham, unlike Goodell appointing Goodell to decide a matter in which Goodell will have to testify. No point even trying to show any impartiality.
 
I don't know the exact clause that covers this, but there were several articles about the Patriots having a May 21 deadline to appeal their penalties. Here's one of them:

http://nep.247sports.com/Bolt/May-21-looms-as-Patriots-organizations-appeal-deadline-37299046

So it seems there's some sort of mechanism for appeal. Though it's probably worse than a Dubai tribunal. At least in Dubai, they appoint their cousin to decide so it doesn't look like a total ****ing sham, unlike Goodell appointing Goodell to decide a matter in which Goodell will have to testify. No point even trying to show any impartiality.

I think he would have to ask Goodell to rescind the punishment he just made and Goodell would say no.

Most of brady is really about not cooperating. The report does not accuse him of anything except being generally aware of something, whatever that means, plus the players union does have a defined appeals process.

Not knowing what Kraft plans, I'm guessing he finds more value in dropping this before the owners meeting [so he can plot Goodells demise, hopefully] than spending the summer begging Goodell for mercy. I say fck em. Get rid of Goodell.
 
I think he would have to ask Goodell to rescind the punishment he just made and Goodell would say no.

Most of brady is really about not cooperating. The report does not accuse him of anything except being generally aware of something, whatever that means, plus the players union does have a defined appeals process.

Not knowing what Kraft plans, I'm guessing he finds more value in dropping this before the owners meeting [so he can plot Goodells demise, hopefully] than spending the summer begging Goodell for mercy. I say fck em. Get rid of Goodell.
What fantasy world do you live in. How can possibly think Kraft has anything against Roger. Kraft could not have been more clear in his press conference where his allegiances lie.
The man literally held a press conference just to announce that the opinion of 31 other teams fans and his business partners are more important than his fans.
Seriously go listen to what he said again. Clearly his intention in the presser was to put an end to this fiasco but again his reasoning literally was because thats what the 31 Other fan bases want then he went on to talk about what his business partners expected of him when he bought the team 20 years ago.
The man just took a massive crap right in our breakfast cereal and expects us to eat it.
 
What fantasy world do you live in. How can possibly think Kraft has anything against Roger. Kraft could not have been more clear in his press conference where his allegiances lie.
The man literally held a press conference just to announce that the opinion of 31 other teams fans and his business partners are more important than his fans.
Seriously go listen to what he said again. Clearly his intention in the presser was to put an end to this fiasco but again his reasoning literally was because thats what the 31 Other fan bases want then he went on to talk about what his business partners expected of him when he bought the team 20 years ago.
The man just took a massive crap right in our breakfast cereal and expects us to eat it.

Yeah, you're right. Billionaires always tell you what they are thinking and planning in public. I'm sure he's never run into a situation where something unfair has happened to one of his companies before.

Do you think multi billionaires signal everything they think, plan and do in public so everyone knows?
 
Yeah, you're right. Billionaires always tell you what they are thinking and planning in public. I'm sure he's never run into a situation where something unfair has happened to one of his companies before.

Do you think multi billionaires signal everything they think, plan and do in public so everyone knows?
I have no idea what your point is here.

I guess I could have said it differently. To put it another way he chose his money over his most loyal customers.
 
I have no idea what your point is here.

I guess I could have said it differently. To put it another way he chose his money over his most loyal customers.

My point is, it is ludicrous for anyone to assume they know what's going on behind the scenes at the owners meeting among millionairess an billionaires and an idiot commisioner who is ruining the league [Rice, Peterson, etc.].

It is not at all unusual in bog monry business and political circles for someone to agree to a punishment or or express support for someone in public, while trying to get them fired behind the scenes.

I guess I could have said it differently. To put it another way he chose his money over his most loyal customers.

He chose nothing. The only appeal would be to Goodell himself and he didn't want to spend the summer begging him to eliminate the punishment when he had no legal mechanism to do so.

If Brady's appeal and subsequent lawsuit [if necessary] fails he can still sue the league in court, if he has grounds. He can't sue them for exercising the powers that he and the other owners gave the idiot, without a reason.
 
My point is, it is ludicrous for anyone to assume they know what's going on behind the scenes at the owners meeting among millionairess an billionaires and an idiot commisioner who is ruining the league [Rice, Peterson, etc.].

It is not at all unusual in bog monry business and political circles for someone to agree to a punishment or or express support for someone in public, while trying to get them fired behind the scenes.



He chose nothing. The only appeal would be to Goodell himself and he didn't want to spend the summer begging him to eliminate the punishment when he had no legal mechanism to do so.

If Brady's appeal and subsequent lawsuit [if necessary] fails he can still sue the league in court, if he has grounds. He can't sue them for exercising the powers that he and the other owners gave the idiot, without a reason.

Yup you are in a fantasy world. Somehow you watched that presser and came away with the feeling Kraft wants to get Goodell fired. If anything he may have just saved the man's job. Had Kraft pursued this to its ends Goodell very likely becomes the scapegoat but by stopping now his franchise takes the hit instead of the shield.
 
Yup you are in a fantasy world. Somehow you watched that presser and came away with the feeling Kraft wants to get Goodell fired. If anything he may have just saved the man's job. Had Kraft pursued this to its ends Goodell very likely becomes the scapegoat but by stopping now his franchise takes the hit instead of the shield.

I didn't watch it. I don't base my opinions on visceral reactions to press conferences anyway.
 
My point is, it is ludicrous for anyone to assume they know what's going on behind the scenes at the owners meeting among millionairess an billionaires and an idiot commisioner.

I don't have to know what goes on behind the scenes he held a public press conference and told us how it is.
 
Jones had the balls to sue the NFL to enhance his team over the other 31 teams.

In 1993, NFL owners began capitalizing upon their decision to create the NFL Trust. That year, Coca-Cola signed a five-year contract worth a reported $250 million to become the official soft-drink of the NFL. In 1995, Visa USA would sign the then second-largest partnership agreement with the NFL, a five-year deal worth $50 million, to become the NFL’s exclusive payment card sponsor.

In the background of these deals, though, was Jones. Not a team owner when NFL owners voted to create the NFL Trust, Jones realized that he and the Cowboys were in a situation unique from most other NFL teams: The Cowboys didn’t need a stable of teams to secure lucrative endorsement deals.
With the business savvy cured from his education, which includes a Master’s degree in business, and successfully running his own Jones Oil and Land Lease, Jones set out to capitalize upon the brand recognized as “America’s Team.” The owner of not only the Dallas Cowboys, but also their stadium, Texas Stadium Corporation, Jones entered into multi-million dollar sponsorship agreements with American Express, Pepsi and Nike through Texas Stadium Corporation.

While arguably not directly contravening the terms of the NFL Trust, since only teams and not stadiums were part of the trust, Jones nonetheless secured the ire of the NFL. At an owners meeting in Atlanta in 1995, Jones was served with a $300 million lawsuit filed by NFL Properties. The lawsuit raised claims including violations of the Lanham Act, breach of contract, breach of the implied covenant of good faith, unjust enrichment and tortious interference with contractual rights.

In response to the lawsuit, Jones and the Cowboys filed a motion to dismiss. This motion was granted in part. Then, Jones took a big risk: He filed a $750 million antitrust lawsuit against the league. It was this legal maneuver that put the Cowboys on the ground to becoming the most valuable NFL franchise. In 2013, Forbes valued the team at a league-wide high of $2,300 million.
 
I don't have to know what goes on behind the scenes he held a public press conference and told us how it is.

Well, then you know everything. I've got pictures of Obama and Putin and Netanyahu smiling and shaking hands, so I guess I know as much as the insiders there.
 
I didn't watch it. I don't base my opinions on visceral reactions to press conferences anyway.
I suggest you watch it. I don't see how there is any room for interpretation if you do.
 
Jones had the balls to sue the NFL to enhance his team over the other 31 teams.

In 1993, NFL owners began capitalizing upon their decision to create the NFL Trust. That year, Coca-Cola signed a five-year contract worth a reported $250 million to become the official soft-drink of the NFL. In 1995, Visa USA would sign the then second-largest partnership agreement with the NFL, a five-year deal worth $50 million, to become the NFL’s exclusive payment card sponsor.

In the background of these deals, though, was Jones. Not a team owner when NFL owners voted to create the NFL Trust, Jones realized that he and the Cowboys were in a situation unique from most other NFL teams: The Cowboys didn’t need a stable of teams to secure lucrative endorsement deals.
With the business savvy cured from his education, which includes a Master’s degree in business, and successfully running his own Jones Oil and Land Lease, Jones set out to capitalize upon the brand recognized as “America’s Team.” The owner of not only the Dallas Cowboys, but also their stadium, Texas Stadium Corporation, Jones entered into multi-million dollar sponsorship agreements with American Express, Pepsi and Nike through Texas Stadium Corporation.

While arguably not directly contravening the terms of the NFL Trust, since only teams and not stadiums were part of the trust, Jones nonetheless secured the ire of the NFL. At an owners meeting in Atlanta in 1995, Jones was served with a $300 million lawsuit filed by NFL Properties. The lawsuit raised claims including violations of the Lanham Act, breach of contract, breach of the implied covenant of good faith, unjust enrichment and tortious interference with contractual rights.

In response to the lawsuit, Jones and the Cowboys filed a motion to dismiss. This motion was granted in part. Then, Jones took a big risk: He filed a $750 million antitrust lawsuit against the league. It was this legal maneuver that put the Cowboys on the ground to becoming the most valuable NFL franchise. In 2013, Forbes valued the team at a league-wide high of $2,300 million.

And New England is the second most valuable.
 
Well, then you know everything. I've got pictures of Obama and Putin and Netanyahu smiling and shaking hands, so I guess I know as much as the insiders there.
This was not a picture. The guy stood there and spilt his feelings and what came out seemed very genuine and clearly showed his allegiance but you think I should hold out hope for what might possibly be going on behind the scenes. Sorry but he gave away benefit of the doubt when he candidly said 31 other fan bases and his business partners mean more.
 
This was not a picture. The guy stood there and spilt his feelings and what came out seemed very genuine and clearly showed his allegiance but you think I should hold out hope for what might possibly be going on behind the scenes. Sorry but he gave away benefit of the doubt when he candidly said 31 other fan bases and his business partners mean more.

I guess he's totally transparent. Call me cynical, but I think billionaires are practiced in hiding their true feelings and or lying, but that's just me.
 
I guess he's totally transparent. Call me cynical, but I think billionaires are practiced in hiding their true feelings and or lying, but that's just me.
I think your point is valid just not applicable to this case. Go watch the presser it came off as very genuine and very insulting to us hard core fans and I don't see much room for interpretation.
 
Jones had the balls to sue the NFL to enhance his team over the other 31 teams.

Why didn't Jerrah sue over losing 10m in cap space? He over-spent in an un-capped year. Huh?? That's an on-field issue. Like ours. Your example is an off-field/monetary issue.
 
I think your point is valid just not applicable to this case. Go watch the presser it came off as very genuine and very insulting to us hard core fans and I don't see much room for interpretation.

I'm not qualified to judge how professional wheelers and dealers lie.

sorry, I lived through 25 years of Billy Sullivan to get to a Super bowl and I thoroughly enjoyed the season, up to the actual game.

I'm as pissed as anyone, I yelled out in public when I heard the punishment. Now having calmed down, I'm looking at the options and there aren't any until Brady's appeal, except to work behind the scenes.

Wish that wasn't true, but that's where the owners put themselves legally.
 
he could have asked for a vote to remove Goodell.
 
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