Step Back From The Ledge.

PatsFanInVa · May 19, 2015

1. I have plenty of theories on the WTF Kraft statement. Probably the least deluded way to put it is that he decided that dropping the appeal was best for him. That is all that we know. He claims his interests align with the team's and the fans'. This is an unproven and unprovable statement.

2. He's asking for trust, pursuant to (1). This does not look like a statement to trust. I am sure that if I'm still alive when he's in his dotage we'll get the truth in someone's memoir, but who has the time.

3. Notwithstanding (1) and (2), up until this point, I have been a fan of how Kraft ran the team. Big step backward from my POV, obviously you guys all totally hate him as of right now.

4. Notwithstanding (1-3), I am a fan for life of the NE Patriots. That would be very hard to change. Insofar as the Pats play in the NFL, I'll watch the NFL. You guys who are "done with the Pats" and "done with the NFL," no need to reply. This is a Patsfans site... you'd just be trolling.

5. Somebody actually said this was a worse day than the SB 42 loss in Glendale. Seriously?

6. I don't even want to speculate on whether Kraft "got anything," whether Goodell "had something" on Kraft, blah blah blah. You can hope all you want, but fuggit. Right now it is what it is. We're out another 1 and a 4 at the very least. Feh. And I am still a New England Patriots fan.

7. Anybody else going to stay with this team? Just curious.

Tony Cahncuhd · May 19, 2015

Not me. Not how I feel right now. I hope they go down the tubes. If Kraft sells the team I would definitely come back. But if Belichik left I would probably root for whatever team he ended up with.

skinnydog · May 19, 2015

Uh, Kraft just shoved me right off the ledge

Wax Frog · May 19, 2015

PatsFanInVa said:
You guys who are "done with the Pats" and "done with the NFL," no need to reply. This is a Patsfans site... you'd just be trolling.

reneluar · May 19, 2015

Krafts feels bad because in patsfans.com we only talk about the patriots, he will buy the site and will make 31 new subforums, because is the best for the 32 teams.

RI Patriots fan · May 19, 2015

PatsFanInVa said:
1. I have plenty of theories on the WTF Kraft statement. Probably the least deluded way to put it is that he decided that dropping the appeal was best for him. That is all that we know. He claims his interests align with the team's and the fans'. This is an unproven and unprovable statement.

2. He's asking for trust, pursuant to (1). This does not look like a statement to trust. I am sure that if I'm still alive when he's in his dotage we'll get the truth in someone's memoir, but who has the time.

3. Notwithstanding (1) and (2), up until this point, I have been a fan of how Kraft ran the team. Big step backward from my POV, obviously you guys all totally hate him as of right now.

4. Notwithstanding (1-3), I am a fan for life of the NE Patriots. That would be very hard to change. Insofar as the Pats play in the NFL, I'll watch the NFL. You guys who are "done with the Pats" and "done with the NFL," no need to reply. This is a Patsfans site... you'd just be trolling.

5. Somebody actually said this was a worse day than the SB 42 loss in Glendale. Seriously?

6. I don't even want to speculate on whether Kraft "got anything," whether Goodell "had something" on Kraft, blah blah blah. You can hope all you want, but fuggit. Right now it is what it is. We're out another 1 and a 4 at the very least. Feh. And I am still a New England Patriots fan.

7. Anybody else going to stay with this team? Just curious.

I'm a fan of the Patriots. I just won't give Spineless Bob a dime of my money. After today, only a sucker would give him any of their money.

HeadHunter · May 19, 2015

I've stood behind this team for a lotta crap. I don't feel even a tiny bit bad about not doing it in this instance. Screw Kraft.

bobbutts · May 19, 2015

I was a fan of the Patriots, I'm not a fan of the Cheaters
If we can go back to the former, I'm still in.

slash83 · May 19, 2015

Believe me Kraft doesn't give a damn about the fans lol. Only thing he cares about is you guys keep buying tickets to go see HIS team and line HIS pockets with money.

fgssand · May 19, 2015

I'm a patriot fan for life.

Have been since I was 9 and will be until Brady is long retired.

I love the team, the players, the coach, the game, all of it.

I hate NFL owners and their commissioner. I really am upset with the owner that had all my respect up until about 8 hours ago.

It really is that simple......unless something comes to light, I'm done with Kraft, I'll boo him and certainly tell him why, but I won't stop cheering for the New England Patriots.

PatsFanInVa · May 19, 2015

Okay, see you guys on a Sawx board. I'm down here in VA, don't have mass hysteria down here... It's just another day. RI, they don't get my money now - unless you count ratings for televised games.

So you guys are seriously skipping the season opener? Really?

Wheelman · May 19, 2015

skinnydog said:
Uh, Kraft just shoved me right off the ledge

Don't worry, someone will shove him off the ledge...he'll be joining you soon.

Brady2Moss · May 19, 2015

I think you misunderstand a lot of the reaction today. I'm not on the ledge, I walked away because I just don't care anymore. Much like the owner of this team.

Tom meets Kaepernick · May 19, 2015

That Kraft **** must be good if someone thought it was a good idea to make this thread

PatsFanInVa · May 19, 2015

Frank, pretty much with you on kraft. I give him some credit for pursuing the hell out of BB when nobody had any idea why. I'm separating spine vs previous skill, with a dollop of wtf. Don't love the guy, I'll put it that way.

But Pats fan for life, with you on that.

I'll always look at this era, from the "point of emphasis" on, as the time when we had to beat the other team, the refs, AND the league.

JMarr · May 19, 2015

RI Patriots fan said:
I'm a fan of the Patriots. I just won't give Spineless Bob a dime of my money. After today, only a sucker would give him any of their money.

Ding ding ding! Winner x1000. Bravo sir.

RI Patriots fan · May 19, 2015

PatsFanInVa said:
Okay, see you guys on a Sawx board. I'm down here in VA, don't have mass hysteria down here... It's just another day. RI, they don't get my money now - unless you count ratings for televised games.

So you guys are seriously skipping the season opener? Really?

I wouldn't go if someone gave me a ticket because he's not getting a dime from me for parking or beer or anything. Not....one......dime.

BUSTAMOVE · May 19, 2015

PatsFanInVa said:
1. I have plenty of theories on the WTF Kraft statement. Probably the least deluded way to put it is that he decided that dropping the appeal was best for him. That is all that we know. He claims his interests align with the team's and the fans'. This is an unproven and unprovable statement.

2. He's asking for trust, pursuant to (1). This does not look like a statement to trust. I am sure that if I'm still alive when he's in his dotage we'll get the truth in someone's memoir, but who has the time.

3. Notwithstanding (1) and (2), up until this point, I have been a fan of how Kraft ran the team. Big step backward from my POV, obviously you guys all totally hate him as of right now.

4. Notwithstanding (1-3), I am a fan for life of the NE Patriots. That would be very hard to change. Insofar as the Pats play in the NFL, I'll watch the NFL. You guys who are "done with the Pats" and "done with the NFL," no need to reply. This is a Patsfans site... you'd just be trolling.

5. Somebody actually said this was a worse day than the SB 42 loss in Glendale. Seriously?

6. I don't even want to speculate on whether Kraft "got anything," whether Goodell "had something" on Kraft, blah blah blah. You can hope all you want, but fuggit. Right now it is what it is. We're out another 1 and a 4 at the very least. Feh. And I am still a New England Patriots fan.

7. Anybody else going to stay with this team? Just curious.

Been a season ticket holder for 21 years. I go for the team not the owner
Big difference from an owner and a fan
Kraft proved today what I always suspected of him
Owners bleed green, fans bleed their team colors
I will not penalize Belichick/ Brady because their owner is a chameleon
Go Pats Forever

PATSNUTme · May 19, 2015

I've been a solid Patriots fan since 1970. I didn't care much for Billy and Patrick Sullivan but I was a fan of the Patriots Football team.

Victor Kiam was a joke. But I still loved my team, the Patriots.

James Orthwien (or however you spell it) was a guy hoping to move my team to St. Louis, and I hated that. But I still loved my team, the Patriots.

Now Bob Kraft has disappointed me today, with his surrender. But I still love my team, the Patriots.

You can love the team but not like the owner. Some of you guys really need to find another team. I hear the Jets had a really good off season, their bandwagon still has seats, and YOU won't be called cheaters.

The Gr8est · May 19, 2015

PatsFanInVa said:
1. I have plenty of theories on the WTF Kraft statement. Probably the least deluded way to put it is that he decided that dropping the appeal was best for him. That is all that we know. He claims his interests align with the team's and the fans'. This is an unproven and unprovable statement.

2. He's asking for trust, pursuant to (1). This does not look like a statement to trust. I am sure that if I'm still alive when he's in his dotage we'll get the truth in someone's memoir, but who has the time.

3. Notwithstanding (1) and (2), up until this point, I have been a fan of how Kraft ran the team. Big step backward from my POV, obviously you guys all totally hate him as of right now.

4. Notwithstanding (1-3), I am a fan for life of the NE Patriots. That would be very hard to change. Insofar as the Pats play in the NFL, I'll watch the NFL. You guys who are "done with the Pats" and "done with the NFL," no need to reply. This is a Patsfans site... you'd just be trolling.

5. Somebody actually said this was a worse day than the SB 42 loss in Glendale. Seriously?

6. I don't even want to speculate on whether Kraft "got anything," whether Goodell "had something" on Kraft, blah blah blah. You can hope all you want, but fuggit. Right now it is what it is. We're out another 1 and a 4 at the very least. Feh. And I am still a New England Patriots fan.

7. Anybody else going to stay with this team? Just curious.

The Pats and the NFL has been a major outlet for me for many years. I watched in my youth, envious of the successful teams and hoping that someday my favorite team could be their equals.

We'll it finally happened and I saw the team that I followed not only reach those heights, they exceeded their accomplishments and became the greatest dynasty that I ever saw.

We all know the history though, envious forces in the league offices have been on a relentless quest to delegitimize the Pats accomplishments and not allow the team or fans to enjoy their accomplishments.

The Pats have been to six Superbowls starting in 1996 and in half of those we have been forced to contend with distractions in addition to the challenge from the opposing team.

We fans have fought the good fight for so long, and now like William Wallace by Robert the Bruce, we have been betrayed by a powerful force who we thought was a friend.

Now maybe something unforseen and fortuitous will come from Brady suing the league that will negate the damage and make us whole. But short of that I intend to start weaning myself away from following the Pats; I gave up on the rest of the NFL a few years ago.

It will be one of the toughest things that I've ever tried to do.

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