As an NFL historian I can't imagine Belichick is OK with this

New England Pride · May 19, 2015

I understand you're concerns Andy but let this play out. There must be an explanation to Kraft rolling over like this.

mgteich · May 19, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
Kraft's lack of loyalty deserves this.

Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

Froob · May 19, 2015

BB must be pissed. BB has always had everyone's back but his own boss doesnt. Disgusting.

Ring 6 · May 19, 2015

New England Pride said:
I understand you're concerns Andy but let this play out. There must be an explanation to Kraft rolling over like this.

He quit, it's over, there is nothing to play out.

Ring 6 · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

You want me to be loyal to the guy who stabbed his fan base in the back? Precious.

VectorPrime · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

Hmm yes lets be loyal to the man who just took one giant **** on the team and players we love so much. In fact Kraft didn't go far enough, he should have offered up our 2017 first round pick as a show of good faith to the league.

50-yard-line · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

Loyal to what, exactly?

I don't offer loyalty to cowards or cheaters. You don't get to walk a line on this one - it's one or the other.

Kdo5 · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

What loyalty should any of us have to Kraft? As Andy said...stabbed in the back. He ruined 14 good years for the greater good of a pack of money grubbing millionaires.

Rossmci90 · May 19, 2015

Tom and Bill have meant everything to this franchise for the last 15 years. I became a fan of the sport and of this team in 2005 and I will follow those two champions wherever they end up.

I feel like today I was stabbed in the back by Kraft, and I'm struggling to see how I can support his team when he gave up on us, and Brady so easily.

Jangles · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Your lack of loyalty is embarrassing.

Explain what Kraft has done to deserve our continued loyalty?

As a fan, I fight the battles on the ground. I dont have the luxury of hopping on my private plane and burying my head in the sand on some nice beach somewhere. From jealous, bitter, haters, to arguing our players, and teams place in the annals of the nfl; we're part of the reason Kraft is a billionaire. And my loyalty was rewarded with roger goodell and Kraft pissing on my face and forcing my favorite player of all time to live with the label as a cheater.

So to hell with him, and the rest of the league. I'm embarrassed that I ever let myself because such an enormous fan that Im even capable of feeling this way about a football team.

TheBostonStraggler · May 19, 2015

Look, the sting of this remains fresh and rightfully so. People are upset and pissed at how unfair this is turning out. I totally and completely understand that and feel similar. However, as the frustration is festering consider this adage:

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you'll ever regret"

Bruins29 · May 19, 2015

This is the problem when you reach the absolute top. There is only one direction you can go.

mgteich · May 19, 2015

50-yard-line said:
Loyal to what, exactly?

I don't offer loyalty to cowards or cheaters. You don't get to walk a line on this one - it's one or the other.

Some of us are older than 15. We have loyalty to the New England Patriots. When the owner who kept the team in New England twice asks us to accept his decision after giving us the best 20 years in patriots history, we give it.

For some, loyalty means getting what you want NOW. I get it. Those folks were furious when Kraft, Brady and Belichick didn't sue the league the day the actions were taken buy the league. Others have a much longer view.

Kraft made a judgement, as he has made hundreds of judgements in his long business career. I get it that folks that they think that they know how to run a business and a team better than Kraft has done. This happens all the time. The internet makes it even easier for folks to be disloyal and want instant gratification.

mgteich · May 19, 2015

Bruins29 said:
This is the problem when you reach the absolute top. There is only one direction you can go.

The patriots reached the top in 2oo2. They have gone very far UP since then.

BradyFTW! · May 19, 2015

You know Andy's heated if he's misspelling Belichick.

BradyFTW! · May 19, 2015

New England Pride said:
I understand you're concerns Andy but let this play out. There must be an explanation to Kraft rolling over like this.

There are lots of explanations. General cowardice, allegience only to other billionaires, not giving a **** about anything except money, etc.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · May 19, 2015

Bruins29 said:
This is the problem when you reach the absolute top. There is only one direction you can go.

The top isn't the top any more. We never got there. 2001*, 2003*, 2004*, 2014*

In fact, 14 seasons 2001-2014 all have asterisks on them, and Bob Kraft agreed to put them there.

Kdo5 · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Some of us are older than 15. We have loyalty to the New England Patriots. When the owner who kept the team in New England twice asks us to accept his decision after giving us the best 20 years in patriots history, we give it.

For some, loyalty means getting what you want NOW. I get it. Those folks were furious when Kraft, Brady and Belichick didn't sue the league the day the actions were taken buy the league. Others have a much longer view.

Kraft made a judgement, as he has made hundreds of judgements in his long business career. I get it that folks that they think that they know how to run a business and a team better than Kraft has done. This happens all the time. The internet makes it even easier for folks to be disloyal and want instant gratification.

Fine. Go ahead and enjoy Robert Kraft who ruined those 20 or so years by stabbing us in the back. Get out of here with this loyalty garbage.

Ring 6 · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
Some of us are older than 15. We have loyalty to the New England Patriots. When the owner who kept the team in New England twice asks us to accept his decision after giving us the best 20 years in patriots history, we give it.

For some, loyalty means getting what you want NOW. I get it. Those folks were furious when Kraft, Brady and Belichick didn't sue the league the day the actions were taken buy the league. Others have a much longer view.

Kraft made a judgement, as he has made hundreds of judgements in his long business career. I get it that folks that they think that they know how to run a business and a team better than Kraft has done. This happens all the time. The internet makes it even easier for folks to be disloyal and want instant gratification.

Tell Tom Brady about loyalty. Kraft just accepted the findings that say he is a liar and a cheater without even requesting a chance to argue. It's better end it than to fight. Kraft owns 4 rings he wouldn't have if Brady shared that version of loyalty.

Tell that to Jastremski and McNally the 2 minimum wage employees who's boss just chose to not fight for them after saying they were innocent.

Tell that to the fans who feel Kraft has an obligation to the fan base to protect the integrity and image of the team.

You want to give Kraft credit for Belichicks success so you can live with his lack of character. I don't.

Bruins29 · May 19, 2015

mgteich said:
The patriots reached the top in 2oo2. They have gone very far UP since then.

Sure, and this time the pissant owners of the other teams cried and whined and got their way. A sting was set up combined with a scandal and misdirection and here we are. The other teams could not beat the pats on the field so they had to off the field. Goodell took the sides of the 31 other teams.

Its really simple. This just dosent happen because someone cant interpret a report. It was a master plan executed beautifully by scumbags.

As an NFL historian I can't imagine Belichick is OK with this

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