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You people are nuts. Players, coaches, and GMs all want to win. Frequently, they violate rules- both major and minor- to help them win. From the beginning, I strongly suspected Brady was complicit in deflating balls below the league-mandated level. However, I never really thought it was that big of a deal. It's not PED-bad. It's probably not even spitball bad. A little apology, a fine, maybe a one game suspension. Brady could have said that referees had forced him to play with balls over 12.5, and he broke the rules by requiring the equipment guys to deflate them back down to 12.5 after the inspection. But Brady and Kraft both proclaimed their innocence and backed Goodell into a corner. They essentially forced the investigation. And the investigation at least strongly suggested Brady was complicit in violating the rules. Was the Wells report done well? I think not. Was there a preponderance of evidence? Debatable. Was the punishment excessive? Almost certainly. So again, Kraft throws down the gauntlet and challenges the league with a response to the Wells report and subsequent commitment to fight the punishment. Then, suddenly and seemingly inexplicably, he backs down and accepts the punishment. Did he just decide he didn't want to fight it? I seriously doubt it. He either received some secret benefit- which I believe is unlikely- or more likely, became aware of additional evidence or information that would make Brady and the Pats looks worse. So he wisely cut his losses. My prediction is Brady will eventually do the same in one way or another. Maybe accept a 2 game suspension as a resolution. Regardless. to turn against an organization that has constantly put a winning product on the field for all these years, merely because they don't contest a punishment that is probably a bit heavy handed but not without some justification is absolutely ludicrous. If you want to give up your season tickets or jerseys or whatever because you are done with the Pats please contact me. I'll be happy to take them off your hands. But you're all full of it- you'll be regulars on this board agains by the time camp opens.

"And I just wanted to say that I'm a long time listener and a big fan of the show and I'll hang up and listen to your response"
 
I look at it this way. I basically didn't have summers before I quit following MLB. Now, I have a great time doing all sorts of things I'd never have had the time to do.

And, soon, I'll have my fall Sundays for other things, too.

Lots of Kool Aid consumers here think you and others are joking but like you guys I gave up on MLB and the NBA. Giving up on the travesty that football is becoming even after being a day one Patriots fan will be easy after BB and Brady leave. I only hope I last that long and don't remain a fan long enough to see what's coming next because you KNOW that there will be a next if BB/Brady continue to win.

EDIT: This is my post. JOKER did not write that last clause.
 
AJ you are extrapolating way too much. If Brady can get a win (anyone thinking the appeal in front of Goody is that venue for a win???) it will be down the line and in front of a judge/third party. What Kraft did today will have nothing to do with it and only the biggest morons of the en masse morons would even try to make the connection.

Kraft submarined nothing for Brady today. Brady's case has not changed one iota.

I am hoping that the team will tacitly cooperate, behind the scenes, with Brady's fight with the knowledge that a Brady win is by proxy a team win. Even with Kraft being milquetoast, does anyone really believe Kraft wouldn't find it exceptionally gratifying for a judge/third party to say "the evidence does not support guilt"? Kraft was clear in his PC that he does not agree with the findings of the Wells' Report or the League's decision to find them guilty.

Unfortunately the team cooperation with Brady's legal team has the NFL contractual crap involved which may make behind the scenes cooperation extremely dicey (but I still hope).

Umm, Brady will be suing the league, which means he will be suing Robert Kraft, and Robert Kraft just took his side. Don't be naive. Kraft threw Brady's legacy out the window because the other owners told him to.
 
I have followed the Patriots since 1960. (when I switched from Giants)

I just realized I wasted a lot of my life.
 
Ninkovich yesterday:

“We all support Tom,” Ninkovich said. “Again, I’ve been with him seven years now. He’s an unbelievable person. He’s an unbelievable competitor. He’s a great person to be around and a great teammate. We all support Tom. From Robert Kraft all the way down, we all support him.”

“For me, we support each other, we’re teammates, we’re all teammates,” he added. “We support each other. It’s just like family. For me, I am going to support my teammates, and I don’t want to get into what was said because I really don’t know, so for me I am here to support my teammates and they are here to support me to raise money for charity and we all support Tom. He’s my teammate. I’ve been with him a long time. He’s a great person.”

Kraft's own fans and even players will turn on him.
 
A real patriot: “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” – Samuel Adams

A craven gutless coward: "Thank you, Mr. Goodell, sir." Robert Pusilanimous Kraft
 
Bob Kraft's statement said it all. His "22 years ago I was a fan who was welcomed into the owners club" made it abundantly clear that membership in that club supersedes any and all responsibilities he has to the fans who have steadfastly supported the Patriots, his loyalties are with the owners, not Patriot fans. At this point the only reasons I am continuing to support the Patriots is because of Brady and Belichick who have earned our support regardless of ownership. I will continue to support them while they are there but doubt I will continue to support and follow the team after that unless there is a change in ownership.
 
Not a sucker. I'll admit I'm even thinking about jumping ship eventually. But I'm not going to burn all my Patriots apparel yet like most of you seem so ready to do.
I will never turn my back on the team I have supported since the 60's.

I will turn my back on Patriot Place and spending on anything Kraft.

Boycott Patriot Place .... I think it's what we all should do to voice our displeasure.
 
I completely stopped caring about baseball after the 1993 strike, because the owners and players obviously didn't care that much. I grew up a Dodger fan, but now literally couldn't name for you one member of the team, nor indeed anybody affiliated with the franchise except Vin Scully (who's been there since before I was born, and certainly since I became a fan), Tommy Lasorda (manager for most of the years I followed the team), and Magic Johnson (recently bought into ownership). There was also the technicality that, pre-Web, you didn't get good info on West Coast teams in the east.

The Red Sox run that my wife cared about for a few postseason games was a fairly minor blip in that non-interest.

While I'm not certain, I suspect that the same switch will now flip for me regarding football.
 
I can't describe the feeling. It's strange and I feel that I'm reading all this with clinical detachment :(

something inside me has snapped....Thanks for nothing RK, sayanora !
 
I am done. Little did I know that the trip to Arizona was the last football game I will ever watch. The game is just about unwatchable now anyway.
 
I will never turn my back on the team I have supported since the 60's.

I will turn my back on Patriot Place and spending on anything Kraft.

Boycott Patriot Place .... I think it's what we all should do to voice our displeasure.


I hope Patriots Place includes Gillette Stadium because that's where he gets most of his money. Anything less is an empty gesture.
 
Can anyone mock up this scene to replace Robert the Bruce's face with Kraft's?
 
Anyone else notice Brady's name never came up?
Kraft stabbed him in the back. Now when Brady wins his appeal NFL observers will say it was a fix set up by Kraft.
Bob Kraft should not be allowed to set foot on the Gillette stadium turf without being deafeningly booed.
Bob Kraft is a traitor.
Tom Brady should demand a trade and Bill Belichick should resign today.


Agree, I hope Brady and belichick leave.
 
Bob Kraft may be a great businessman, but he sure is a sucker for “the greater good” argument. Kraft would have fit right in in 1940s Germany. He would have been one of the Jewish leaders urging cooperation with Hitler while Heinrich Himmler was busy massacring Jews by the millions.

Wow. When I said, "you people are nuts", I didn't mean literally mentally ill. But now...
 
Before I click "Yes," I'm waiting to see whether this was part of a deal to get TB's suspension lifted. Otherwise, I wish the OP had included a category "Hell, Yes."
 
Just got off the phone and delivered the simple message that they will not get another dime from me after Bob Kraft (I actually stumbled and said "Bob Crap" which I'm sorry I corrected) sold the fan base down the river today. I encourage others to flood the switchboard and the ticket office with their displeasure.
 
I'll bite.

I've gotta think that Kraft has no compelling reason to get in front of the cameras today unless a quid pro quo is involved. The chronology of events could be as follows:

Today: Kraft and Goodell make peace and Kraft announces, after careful consideration, he will not sue the League
Today and tomorrow: media swarming all over the subject, offering all sorts of opinions from "guilty as charged" to classy move, but most will gravitate towards classy move.
Later this week: Goodell announces a more lenient punishment for both the Patriots and Brady (doesn't he only have 10 days from the day Brady appealed last week?) whereby he acknowledges the continued leadership of Kraft and showing himself to be a "bigger man"...able to recognize the punishment may not have been fairly applied, or substantiated, and even crediting Kraft's remarks of today in his decision-making process on the appeal.

Note: this doesn't necessarily change Brady's strategy (I'm guessing) unless he is fully exonerated. I don't believe Kraft would guarantee that he could "deliver" Brady's compliance. But he very well could have delivered a message from Brady's camp indicating a possible middle ground. Bottom line: it's in everyone's best interest to put this all behind them.

Even if you're partially right, I don't think Brady is party to any such deal.

But then, the base case for Brady has always been that he appeals, gets his suspension cut in half, and then goes to court anyway to get a neutral arbitrator who will completely overturn it.
 
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