EDIT: Schefter Patriots get taken through the back channel by NFL

Mack Herron · May 19, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
so should the fans

I agree, and I will.

Froob · May 19, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
Kraft cannot accept a penalty for Brady.
Hello, Brady AND THE NFLPA are appealing and fighting the league, which includes Kraft.
Kraft trying to get in the way of that only puts him on Goodells side AGAINST Brady.

Waiting for Patriots to change their Facebook pic to Goodell's face.

Jimke · May 19, 2015

Above all else, Kraft likes being a big shot at league meetings. To retain this status, he will throw
his team and Tom Brady under the bus. He will probably kick fans out of the stadium if they boo
Goodell on opening day.

raduray · May 19, 2015

Jlaff said:
One thing I would add, is that you go to court for a determination on what can be narrow issues. Everyone (not you, the media) talking about him having to turn over his phone might be wrong. If the Patriots/Brady sue over whether or not the Wells Report proves its conclusion (or some related issue, such as was the punishment arbitrary/baseless), that does not require an entire new investigation of whether Patriots/Brady did something, the only concern will be the report. So Brady's phone record would not be relevant/admissible on that issue, because relevance is determined by the issue before the court.

I agree with Brady not turning over his phone to the leaking sieve that is the NFL. I'd have no problem with Brady turning over his phone to a US Federal judge. I believe he is innocent. I believe the NFL already has his texts and emails from Beavis and Butthead's phones. If I'm wrong and there is incriminating evidence on Brady's phone, then so be it. I'd be very disappointed and upset, but the truth would have won out.

IllegalContact · May 19, 2015

Nunchucks said:
Nobody wants to find out what happens if this goes to the courts, it is bad for the NFL and bad for the Patriots. The only reason it would go to court is if the penalties are as they currently stand.

then goodell can fix his mistakes first.........

mistake #1: never send a monkey to do a man's job......fire kensil

sphen22 · May 19, 2015

With these leaks still coming out supporting the pats side, I feel a time line is in place or a countdown if you will. When the clock strikes zero, I feel a bomb will be going off exposing the sham that is Goodells and his minions.

Kraft likely told Goodell what his demands are gave him a do the right thing hug, and maybe hinted that although he might be willing to compromise a bit, that brady is a nuclear missile that will not be stopped unless complete exoneration is had.

Fixit · May 19, 2015

Wait, just so I'm clear here ... we're back to Kraft being a big, fat ****y who's going to throw his QB under the bus simply because he hugged a good friend of his? I assume a punch would've been much better.

Okay, I'm caught up.

raduray · May 19, 2015

JJC said:
That would be great, but who are the more level heads in the NFL office? It appears more like a strong clueless man (Goodell) surrounded by moron sycophants (Kensil, Vincent, Giardi) from the outside.

See my edit above. A good leader would surround himself with people who would not be afraid to voice a wide range of opinion and perspective.

jimache · May 19, 2015

Fck Kraft/Godell/NFL and anyone related to them if all those new leaks are true and somehow the suspension and draft picks remain

IllegalContact · May 19, 2015

I think people are overestimating the value of the hug....billionaires don't hide in corners throwing hissy fits

you guys are all jumping the gun....just like you did while kraft was saying nothing

Soul_Survivor88 · May 19, 2015

IllegalContact said:
I think people are overestimating the value of the hug....billionaires don't hide in corners throwing hissy fits

you guys are all jumping the gun....just like you did while kraft was saying nothing

remember this?

Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.”

Kraft is going to take this one bending over... no Vaseline

Haley · May 19, 2015

He has to try, but this will never work.

He is going to court (whether he likes it or not) but at least now he can talk under oath about how he tried to be reasonable and compromise with these jackals.

FrodoBagginz · May 19, 2015

We have been Palpatined.

All this time we believing Kraft is on our side and willing to fight for Brady and Belichick.

But when the time comes his true self, and the side he is on, is revealed.

Brady and Belichick are nothing more than the Mace and Yoda pawns destined for doom.

Patsfanin Philly · May 19, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
"you broke my heart Fredo, I know it was you...

In that vein, keep your friends close, your enemies closer...

Sicilian · May 19, 2015

All this crap over a hug huh? What did you think meetings between billionaires looked like? The last scene in The Rock where all the soldiers have their guns at each other's heads waiting to see who blinks? These people made their money in back rooms with handshakes and words made of honeydew melon. You can't stab someone in the back if they never trust you enough to turn it. They don't live in the same world we live in. The rules are different, the protocol is different.

Fixit · May 19, 2015

Sicilian said:
All this crap over a hug huh? What did you think meetings between billionaires looked like? The last scene in The Rock where all the soldiers have their guns at each other's heads waiting to see who blinks? These people made their money in back rooms with handshakes and words made of honeydew melon. You can't stab someone in the back if they never trust you enough to turn it. They don't live in the same world we live in. The rules are different, the protocol is different.

This is what sense looks like.

Jesus, the leaders of actual warring countries greet each other with respect and sometimes even hugs.

IllegalContact · May 19, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
remember this?

Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.”

Kraft is going to take this one bending over... no Vaseline

oh jeez.....who wrote that?

Silver Blue&Red · May 19, 2015

Maybe they are negotiating how much the Pats want for being falsely charged

Froob · May 19, 2015

Somebody should find Goody's mailing address so we can send him a bunch of Physics books.

Galeb · May 19, 2015

IllegalContact said:
billionaires don't hide in corners throwing hissy fits

Self made billionaires tend not to. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the majority of those raised by billionaires that inherited billions. Far too many owners fall into the latter category.

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