Why is Tomase still considered an 'authority' in Boston sports media?

Rob0729 · May 16, 2015

Tomase is relegated to weekends. Weekend radio is mostly reserved for back up guys getting lead role experience to eventually become weekday hosts (see Mark Bertrand and Lou Merloni) or washed up guys who have name recognition. Tomase falls in the latter group.

Funny, I don't get WEEI's hires in the last year. Looks like Gary Tanguay is becoming a prominent figure on their shows (he has been replacing John Dennis while he has been out). 98.5 dumped this guy twice (first as Zo's cohost and then as the pre and post game host for the Pats) and now WEEI is grooming him for a bigger role. My guess is that he will ultimately replace Tim Benz who looks to irritate everyone on middays.

Tunescribe · May 16, 2015

Froob said:
Do other cities have so many media guys that hate the team as much as Boston?

I doubt it. Here, I think it's a culture instilled by Borges and Shaughnessy, perhaps a bit by Will McDonough as well early on after Kraft bought the team. It became gospel at the Globe and then spread through those people to radio, television, and eventually the Herald. It was galvanized by Felger, who has no roots in New England, then popularized by other outsiders such as Gresh, Gasper, etc. Tomase, DeOssie and Tanguay are particularly egregious examples of the fashionable "I Am Not A Fan" syndrome.

Some of them hold personal grudges against the Patriots (Shaughnessy, Borges) while others believe that the best way to gain attention is by trolling the fan base with trumped-up contrarianism and controversy. I'm one fan who has grown weary of the negative spew and faux agitation. It's juvenile and cynically manipulative. Life is too short for it. Anyone who has listened to New York sports talk radio knows what mature adults with dignity, objectivity and genuine journalistic ability sound like. We deserve so much better than what we're getting.

Perhaps someday the tide will turn toward writers and broadcasters who realize that an objective yet positive, professional approach would be more readily embraced by fans. We have a few bright lights in Reiss, Jerry Thornton, Zolak, (increasingly) Curran and one or two others. We need more in leading roles.

Oswlek · May 16, 2015

VectorPrime said:
Now I am not advocating removing all his stuff from the headlines because I don't think anything should be omitted there as its all Patriots news no matter how dumb

I am. He should be be removed entirely.

RobertWeathers · May 16, 2015

Tunescribe said:
It was galvanized by Felger.

This.

Felger is no dummy. He has a very strong understanding of the emotional climate, temperament and daily behavior of this region. He provokes, chides, irritates, aggravates it better than anyone else. Hes come a long way from the guy who wore flip-flops and cut-off jeans on Sports Final.

Sara Underwood gave him polish, confidence and helped shape his on-air persona and brand. She made him realize what he could be. That's what the love of a good woman does for a man.

The problem is that she created a monster...damn her!

FCB02062 · May 16, 2015

reflexblue said:
TomASSee has a radio show, WTF. This shows just how low sports media ha fallen, at one time the writers and broadcasters in Boston were considered the best in the country. I'm going back to the 5os up until at least the late nineties. But that reputation has gone to sht. When you give a mediocre clown like tomASSee his own show it proves it. Hes only (in)famous for one thing, the walsh tapes.

The time you're referring yo was still filled with agenda ridden hacks - McDonough, Ryan, Gammons, Montville etc all had their patsies in the locker room and axes to grind; just we didn't have them on TV, radio & social media 24 hours a day highlighting their agendas & negativity...it was certainly there with no bigger example than scumbag & whitey bulger confidant Will McDonough...

Tunescribe · May 16, 2015

robertweathers said:
This.

Felger is no dummy. He has a very strong understanding of the emotional climate, temperament and daily behavior of this region. He provokes, chides, irritates, aggravates it better than anyone else. Hes come a long way from the guy who wore flip-flops and cut-off jeans on Sports Final.

Sara Underwood gave him polish, confidence and helped shape his on-air persona and brand. She made him realize what he could be. That's what the love of a good woman does for a man.

The problem is that she created a monster...damn her!

Meh, she's nothing special. Felger created this monster on his own, aided by the fact that his personal ties are to his boyhood teams back in Wisconsin. It doesn't faze him to hurt us, because he's not invested emotionally and likely views New England parochialism with disdain. He's just smart enough to convincingly sell his shtick as "truthful and objective" when it's carefully contrived simply to rile people up. I've even found myself agreeing with him, later realizing I was sold a load of crap. He's good at what he does, but I doubt it would fly in a more discerning, sophisticated market like New York.

RobertWeathers · May 16, 2015

I'm not saying that she is responsible for his thinking, ideas and thought process. What I know is that his public-facing presence and presentation skills sucked before she met him.

Tunescribe · May 16, 2015

robertweathers said:
I'm not saying that she is responsible for his thinking, ideas and thought process. What I know is that his public-facing presence and presentation skills sucked before she met him.

Could be she gave him pointers on crafting a broadcaster's image as he came up through the Herald.

primetime · May 16, 2015

Why are journalists who were cheerleaders for the invasion of Iraq in 2003 still big (if not bigger, see Ezra Klein) names in the journalism world? There's just very little accountability for screwing up badly.

Jackson 2 · May 16, 2015

seven said:
I agree. He is not mean spirited, basically a good guy. It is just so frustrating to hear his emotional responses, to be relentlessly immune to the facts.

Funny tweet:
Jerry Thornton‏@jerrythornton1May 14
Goodell = #CommissionerDoritoDink

goodell as Cartman's cop... "respect mah authoritah"
This is the image I have used for people who need a quick summary.
Picture cartman as the cop.

A few days ago I was out driving listening to D & H and I took a turn without using my directional. Dale was speaking and my immediate thought was that if Dale had done that, he'd 1) rushed to go to confession, or 2) turned himself in at the police station, or 3) both.

DW Toys · May 16, 2015

robertweathers said:
I don't think anyone on this board-even the trolls consider Tomase an authority on anything.

If Tomase is still writing for the Herald, I say anyone including DW Toys and/or Jack should be able to walk through the door at the editors desk and take his place in a nano second.
The only reason he is still around might be the hate. Obviously every Pat fan will pick up an article written by this "not so great" writer and vent, yell , howl and curse him to the ends of time. He actually is good for business for the newspaper because every Pats fan hates him. He is already proven he knows "un gots".
DW Toys

rochrist · May 16, 2015

seven said:
This 1000x. Minihane, more of the same. Pro trolls.

Mike Holly has been solid, Jerry Thornton a great addition there.
Still unfortunately packaged with Dale, whose every statement could begin with with "I'm afraid..."

Dale is the guy who would be kicked out of Calvinist preacher school for being too rigid.

Minihane has been surprisingly strong that he thinks the Pats are getting screwed. Possibly because he hates Felger and Tanguay so much.

BradyFTW! · May 16, 2015

NashuaPats said:
It looks like Tomase has been taking shots at the Pats over this based on the headlines of his articles, but I would not know because I refuse to give his articles any clicks.

One thing that has bothered me over this mess is that some of the writers who I normally believe to be the good guys are trying not to be homerish and are writing things like:
Finding the middle ground
Look at the other side's perspective
They obviously did someting wrong
You're being a homer if you don't they are partially guilty
Both sides (the NFL and Pats) have been wrong

NO! I reject this entirely. It's so gutless. The balls were either tampered with or not and no objective person could read the entire Wells report objectively and say they are guilty.

In other words, the 'middle ground' in a witch hunt is still a load of ****. Finding the middle ground doesn't make you objective when that middle ground is halfway between a reasonable perspective and an insane, axe-grinding troll..

flasox27 · May 16, 2015

The only thing the fat slob is an expert on is jelly donuts.

PatriotsReign · May 16, 2015

Tomase is a born liar....that's his schtick. He has been a proven liar many times....just like Felger.

IcyPatriot · May 16, 2015

robertweathers said:
This.

Felger is no dummy. He has a very strong understanding of the emotional climate, temperament and daily behavior of this region. He provokes, chides, irritates, aggravates it better than anyone else. Hes come a long way from the guy who wore flip-flops and cut-off jeans on Sports Final.

Sara Underwood gave him polish, confidence and helped shape his on-air persona and brand. She made him realize what he could be. That's what the love of a good woman does for a man.

The problem is that she created a monster...damn her!

So Sarah drew the azzhole out of him or she molded him into an azzhole?

Or both ....

rochrist · May 16, 2015

Tunescribe said:
I doubt it. Here, I think it's a culture instilled by Borges and Shaughnessy, perhaps a bit by Will McDonough as well early on after Kraft bought the team. It became gospel at the Globe and then spread through those people to radio, television, and eventually the Herald. It was galvanized by Felger, who has no roots in New England, then popularized by other outsiders such as Gresh, Gasper, etc. Tomase, DeOssie and Tanguay are particularly egregious examples of the fashionable "I Am Not A Fan" syndrome.

Some of them hold personal grudges against the Patriots (Shaughnessy, Borges) while others believe that the best way to gain attention is by trolling the fan base with trumped-up contrarianism and controversy. I'm one fan who has grown weary of the negative spew and faux agitation. It's juvenile and cynically manipulative. Life is too short for it. Anyone who has listened to New York sports talk radio knows what mature adults with dignity, objectivity and genuine journalistic ability sound like. We deserve so much better than what we're getting.

Perhaps someday the tide will turn toward writers and broadcasters who realize that an objective yet positive, professional approach would be more readily embraced by fans. We have a few bright lights in Reiss, Jerry Thornton, Zolak, (increasingly) Curran and one or two others. We need more in leading roles.

Eh. It goes back much further than that. Hell, trying to run Ted Williams out of town. The greatest hitter in baseball history and someone who interrupted his career not once but twice to go fight over seas, but he didn't respect the sportswriters "authoritah" and he wasn't 'nice' to them, see Bill Belichick.

RayClay · May 16, 2015

titletownpats said:
If you tweet Tomase about Matt Walsh, he will block you. I encourage you to do it. Pats fans should also ask him about Matt Walsh on his weei show on Sunday mornings. I stopped reading or listening to any negative patriots spin so I don't even turn on talk radio. I will never read or listen to Tomase again. Blows my mind that weei hired him.

I got blocked for much better than that almost right away. Tweet WEEI, they're the ones employing him and probably afraid to block listeners.

As for why he's still here, it's corporate pressure. Dunkin Donuts is a huge sponsor of sports locally and if jelly belly left town their stock would plummet and there would be layoffs.

RobAllan · May 16, 2015

This market really gets hit with the absolute worst bottomfeeders. Tomase, Borges, Volin... It's like disgrace after disgrace after disgrace. We get blessed with the occasional Mike Reiss... but overall it's a sad state of affairs. It's just as infuriating as having Goodell as commissioner of the NFL. I'm honestly not sure which group of people disgust me more, the reporters or the league office.

My blood pressure is rising just talking about this. THIS is why I won't watch this damn sport anymore. I'll be glad when this situation (framegate) resolves (I want to know what happens... morbid curiosity) so I can move on.

Gah! GAH! LOL (But not really. Ugh.)

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