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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.No it is not. If he tries to do so, the NFLPA will challenge it in court:
If the Commissioner does not appoint such a neutral arbitrator, the NFLPA and Mr. Brady will seek recusal and pursue all available relief to obtain an arbitrator who is not evidently partial.
By the same token, if they force Goodell to testify, they get him on record that could be used in a further appeal or in a"real" court. Goodell may be smooth with the media but going up against a seasoned litigator who knows how to ask questions is a very different ballgame.. I thought the league was limited to using the same evidence it had previously without introducing new evidence but Brady can use anything which is why they want to force Goodell and Vincent to testify...Here's one motive Goodell could have for going to court over the arbitrator choice. In essence, it's a court case where a loss doesn't cost him that much. So he can see what the other side has.
I.e., it might reduce his risks of losing long-shot suits such as defamation to Brady or anything to Kraft.
I thought the league was limited to using the same evidence it had previously without introducing new evidence but Brady can use anything which is why they want to force Goodell and Vincent to testify...
Interesting perspective.I've heard that often enough that I believe that it's true -- but it can only be true for certain kinds of lawsuits and processes, namely ones governed by labor law. If, for example, there were a defamation suit, I imagine all kinds of evidence would become allowable.
Regarding a Brady defamation suit:Will There Be A Brady Lawsuit?
First things first. There is going to be an appeal of discipline, and different players have handled that in different ways with different results. Very hard to predict right now how that goes.
Roger Goodell will likely resist the appointment of a neutral decider. I think Brady's camp will likely argue that it is essential given information in the Wells Report that seems to blow off concerns about the NFL's role in Deflategate, such as the referee's obligations, lack of good measurement information, potential of bias of one of the key NFL personnel people who was a long term employee of the Jets.
The theory would be that punishment of Brady/Patriots is something that the NFL is partially doing because believing the Patriots' version of the story makes the NFL's actions the day of the alleged incident look bad.
If after appeal, Brady doesn't want to live with the result, the NFLPA may file an application to vacate the result on Brady's behalf.
http://abovethelaw.com/2015/05/shou...d-roger-goodell-a-deflategate-email-exchange/There are plenty of reasons why a person who believes they were legitimately defamed would not file such a claim. Defamation cases by public figures are hard to win. They are expensive, time consuming, unpredictable, and privacy invading. And I don't even think Tom Brady has enough money to want to get into a civil lawsuit with the NFL, which has enough money they should be a part of the U.S. Treasury.
It's expensive. And public figures have a higher hurdle to prove than non-public figures. They have to prove "actual malice," which means that the person making the statement knew it to be false or said it with reckless disregard for the truth. In addition, if it is a matter of public interest, often those statements can be protected from defamation claims.
Second, Mr. Brady’s discipline cannot be sustained for the additional reason that it contravenes the governing CBA requirement of fair and consistent treatment. See Rice at 16; Bounty at 4. Your decision to suspend Mr. Brady for four games—i.e., one-quarter of the NFL season—for his alleged “general[] aware[ness] of the actions of the Patriots’ employees involved in the deflation of the footballs” and “failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the [Wells] investigation” is grossly inconsistent with the League’s prior disciplinary treatment of similar alleged conduct, including lack of cooperation and not complying with League rules regarding game balls or other equipment.2 The law of the shop from Bounty, Rice, and other proceedings requires that this unfair and inconsistent treatment of Mr. Brady—an exponential change in the severity of the punishment without notice or due process—be vacated. Indeed, no player in the history of the NFL has ever received anything approaching this level of discipline for similar behavior—a change in sanctions squarely forbidden by the CBA and the law of the shop.
Interesting perspective.
Are you thinking that the NFL held back evidence from the Wells Report?
It would not surprise me.
The NFL will not be able to introduce anything new in the appeal, whether held by Goodell, an independent arbitrator or a judge. Brady is appealing the verdict rendered and the punishment handed out and the report is the NFL's basis for these actions. Essentially, there has been a trial in a kangaroo court, the prosecution has presented their case with no cross examination by the defense and no defense whatsoever allowed. The appeal is Brady's opportunity to present his side of the story.No, I don't think that. But they could do more discovery in connection with a lawsuit.
The NFL will not be able to introduce anything new in the appeal, whether held by Goodell, an independent arbitrator or a judge. Brady is appealing the verdict rendered and the punishment handed out and the report is the NFL's basis for these actions. Essentially, there has been a trial in a kangaroo court, the prosecution has presented their case with no cross examination by the defense and no defense whatsoever allowed. The appeal is Brady's opportunity to present his side of the story.
The exculpatory stuff that negated their theory of Brady's guilt or any evidence of a sting or nature was either ignored, buried in a footnote or purposely omitted.....Discovery requests will likely ask for all of Wells transcripts and reports. Again if he is "independent" there should be no attorney-client privilege invoked....If it is invoked, well you heard it here first........life will get very interesting and the light will shine on a few people and to quote somebody,Interesting perspective.
Are you thinking that the NFL held back evidence from the Wells Report?
It would not surprise me.
Yes, but they are demanding a neutral, unbiased one. If not they will not stand by the ruling.Goodell will just appoint another arbitrator now. Him hearing the appeal was a strategic leak not an official announcement. This is what NFL does.
The problem with all these theories of legal recourse is that the legal system is not as blind as people seem to suggest: courts are often sensitive to PR.
The NFL's strategy was actually very clever. They leaked false defamatory information about the Patriots, inciting the media against the Patriots. They then forced the Patriots to NDA the correct information, preventing any ability for the Patriots to respond meaningfully.
Thus, from the NFL's point of view, they don't want to admit they were wrong; likewise now for the media. Combine this with few people having the time to pore over the details of the Wells report, and it's a tough situation.