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So let me apologize in advance for subjecting you to this unfortunate screed. Much of this has likely been said elsewhere (probably not quite this way, but I suppose that is another matter). I know I’m venting my spleen here, but this may well be a matter of personal survival because if my head doesn’t explode, I may well go Completely and Utterly Out of My Mind.

Jesus God, what a freak show. Nobody in their wildest dreams could make stuff like this up.

If you happen to work at the location of the NFL offices, 345 Park Avenue in New York, one can only hope it hasn’t escaped your attention that the building is burning down. It may be hard to hear over the din of the nonstop calliope music and there is, of course, the minor matter of the workmen in the lobby who are changing the office signage from National Football League to National Fustercluck League. But there’s no mistaking that something is seriously awry in the inner workings of the World’s Most Successful and Profitable Sports League.

Watching Roger Goodell trying to administer the affairs of this $9 billion enterprise is like watching an armadillo try to hump out a Mozart concerto on a cello. You know it’s an obscene affront to human dignity but you don’t know whether to laugh or cry about it.

Those who say Herr Goodell is an incompetent moron have it all wrong – Roger is an astoundingly competent moron. Indeed, a world class moron. In fact, if you took 10 or 20 of the smartest, most talented people in the world and asked to them to devise a plan to royally **** up the NFL, they couldn’t possibly come up with anything remotely as devastating as what Roger Goodell does by lunchtime on your average Tuesday just by showing up. If sheer dumb****ery were an Olympic event (cue national anthem here), Roger would be on national TV swathed in the American flag every four years for the foreseeable future.

Roger’s hired gun - bon vivant/man-about-town Ted Wells (attorney-at-law and independent investigator and objective judge and impartial one-man jury miraculously not influenced by numerous other aforementioned Ted Wells multiple personalities skulking around North America at $800 per hour) - somehow managed to grossly outspend an unlimited budget while taking the Deflated Football matter over not one but several cliffs. Along the way, Wells engaged expert witness opinion manufacturing firm Exponent (company motto: Will Prevaricate for Mega $$$) to bastardize the laws of physics. They delivered handsomely, using imprecise measurements to go from unwarranted assumptions to foregone conclusions. This is the lynchpin of Wells’ case, enabling him to conclude that text messages exchanged between ball-boys shortly after Ground Hog Day were incontrovertible evidence of a dastardly plot by a Hall of Fame caliber player with an impeccable reputation to surreptitiously let a small amount of air out of footballs sometime the following January. Case closed.

Roger’s employment of Troy Vincent as Executioner may well be the single most absurd development in the increasingly bizarre episode. First, it strains the credulity of anyone who doesn’t still use crayons for written communication that Vincent dreamed up The Preposterous Off-with-the-Bastards’-Heads Penalties levied against Brady and the Patriots without the imperial oversight of Blockheadus Maximus (it’s really not all that hard to imagine Goodell wiggling his fingers to make Vincent’s lips move, as unsavory as that might be). Incredible as it may seem, this Kabuki Theater is a nakedly transparent ploy to preserve Goodell’s (ahem) right to serve as the ARBITRATOR who will adjudicate the appeal of Tom Brady’s suspension. But surely, even Rocket Roger could not be that dumb, to take on Brady, Robert Kraft, high powered attorney/NFL nemesis Jeffrey Kessler and the NFLPA in a public high stakes stare down, likely to be covered live on the Worldwide Sewer of Sports Journalism, ESPN. I mean nobody (NOBODY!!!) could possibly be THAT ****ING STUPID!!!! Could they?

But this is Roger Goodell - dimwit. Walking the plank. Jumping overboard while hugging an anchor. I know, I know. He’s a ridiculously overpaid dunce and a constant source of misery to football fans all over the world. But you have to feel just a tiny bit sorry for him. Don’t you?

No? Okay, well **** him then. Roger, over and out.
 
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Is the NFL the most Profitable Sports League? I'd have thought the Premier League here in England makes more, given the scale of its global TV deals..?

Other than that - I agree.
 
All of this, even if you accept Wells' contentions, over a few tenths of a psi when no one involved can feel the difference in the ball at an order of magnitude more! And this is supposed to have gained some kind of nefarious competitive advantage. The preposterousness of the claim is all the evidence needed to conclude there is some other malicious motive at work.
 
Is the NFL the most Profitable Sports League? I'd have thought the Premier League here in England makes more, given the scale of its global TV deals..?

Other than that - I agree.

No. It may be that the Premier League has more money flowing through it, but it doesn't have a salary cap, has promotion and relegation and has super-rich owners who aren't interested in using it to make money (shady sheikhs, oligarchs, and so on). All of which means that, although a few teams are run for profit (Man U) it's nothing like the money mint that the NFL is.
 
So let me apologize in advance for subjecting you to this unfortunate screed. Much of this has likely been said elsewhere (probably not quite this way, but I suppose that is another matter). I know I’m venting my spleen here, but this may well be a matter of personal survival because if my head doesn’t explode, I may well go Completely and Utterly Out of My Mind.

Jesus God, what a freak show. Nobody in their wildest dreams could make stuff like this up.

If you happen to work at the location of the NFL offices, 345 Park Avenue in New York, one can only hope it hasn’t escaped your attention that the building is burning down. It may be hard to hear over the din of the nonstop calliope music and there is, of course, the minor matter of the workmen in the lobby who are changing to office signage from National Football League to National Fustercluck League. But there’s no mistaking that something is seriously awry in the inner workings of the World’s Most Successful and Profitable Sports League.

Watching Roger Goodell trying to administer the affairs of this $9 billion enterprise is like watching an armadillo try to hump out a Mozart concerto on a cello. You know it’s an obscene affront to human dignity but you don’t know whether to laugh or cry about it.

Those who say Herr Goodell is an incompetent moron have it all wrong – Roger is an astoundingly competent moron. Indeed, a world class moron. In fact, if you took 10 or 20 of the smartest, most talented people in the world and asked to them to devise a plan to royally **** up the NFL, they couldn’t possibly come up with anything remotely as devastating as what Roger Goodell does by lunchtime on your average Tuesday just by showing up. If sheer dumb****ery were an Olympic event (cue national anthem here), Roger would be on national TV swathed in the American flag every four years for the foreseeable future.

Roger’s hired gun - bon vivant/man-about-town Ted Wells (attorney-at-law and independent investigator and objective judge and impartial one-man jury miraculously not influenced by numerous other aforementioned Ted Wells multiple personalities skulking around North America at $800 per hour) - somehow managed to grossly outspend an unlimited budget while taking the Deflated Football matter over not one but several cliffs. Along the way, Wells engaged expert witness opinion manufacturing firm Exponent (company motto: Will Prevaricate for Mega $$$) to bastardize the laws of physics. They delivered handsomely, using imprecise measurements to go from unwarranted assumptions to foregone conclusions. This is the lynchpin of Wells’ case, enabling him to conclude that text messages exchanged between ball-boys shortly after Ground Hog Day were incontrovertible evidence of a dastardly plot by a Hall of Fame caliber player with an impeccable reputation to surreptitiously let a small amount of air out of footballs sometime the following January. Case closed.

Roger’s employment of Troy Vincent as Executioner may well be the single most absurd development in the increasingly bizarre episode. First, it strains the credulity of anyone who doesn’t still use crayons for written communication that Vincent dreamed up The Preposterous Off-with-the-Bastards’-Heads Penalties levied against Brady and the Patriots without the imperial oversight of Blockheadus Maximus (it’s really not all that hard to imagine Goodell wiggling his fingers to make Vincent’s lips move, as unsavory as that might be). Incredible as it may seem, this Kabuki Theater is a nakedly transparent ploy to preserve Goodell’s (ahem) right to serve as the ARBITRATOR who will adjudicate the appeal of Tom Brady’s suspension. But surely, even Rocket Roger could not be that dumb, to take on Brady, Robert Kraft, high powered attorney/NFL nemesis Jeffrey Kessler and the NFLPA in a public high stakes stare down, likely to be covered live on the Worldwide Sewer of Sports Journalism, ESPN. I mean nobody (NOBODY!!!) could possibly be THAT ****ING STUPID!!!! Could they?

But this is Roger Goodell - dimwit. Walking the plank. Jumping overboard while hugging an anchor. I know, I know. He’s a ridiculously overpaid dunce and a constant source of misery to football fans all over the world. But you have to feel just a tiny bit sorry for him. Don’t you?

No? Okay, well **** him then. Roger, over and out.
True masters at work, both of you. Some work in oils, others in clay, Rodger the dodger in buffoonery and stupidity, and you Zeus in words.
 
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How many times in baseball's history a pitcher has been caught tampering with the ball ? And when was the last time baseball made such a huge deal about it (say, 1/100th of deflategate) ?

In baseball, they call that gamesmanship. Goodell decided to call it attacking the integrity of the game.

But the truly funny thing about all this, is that both leagues want more offense....thus baseball should be the ones trying to punish harshly tampering of the balls by pitchers, while the NFL is the one who should go lighter on this issue, as they have been trying over the past 20 years to make it as pass-happy as possible.
 
How many times in baseball's history a pitcher has been caught tampering with the ball ? And when was the last time baseball made such a huge deal about it (say, 1/100th of deflategate) ?
Well, usually they get a suspension, no? At least the recent pine tar incident...when Pineda got a 10 game suspension. Perhaps not the best precedent for us to focus on. :oops:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/73202...da-gets-10-game-suspension-for-using-pine-tar

That said, they aren't the same thing, and I would disagree that Brady got caught doing anything. If there were actually good evidence, we would be having a very different conversation.
 
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So let me apologize in advance for subjecting you to this unfortunate screed. Much of this has likely been said elsewhere (probably not quite this way, but I suppose that is another matter). I know I’m venting my spleen here, but this may well be a matter of personal survival because if my head doesn’t explode, I may well go Completely and Utterly Out of My Mind.

Jesus God, what a freak show. Nobody in their wildest dreams could make stuff like this up.

If you happen to work at the location of the NFL offices, 345 Park Avenue in New York, one can only hope it hasn’t escaped your attention that the building is burning down. It may be hard to hear over the din of the nonstop calliope music and there is, of course, the minor matter of the workmen in the lobby who are changing to office signage from National Football League to National Fustercluck League. But there’s no mistaking that something is seriously awry in the inner workings of the World’s Most Successful and Profitable Sports League.

Watching Roger Goodell trying to administer the affairs of this $9 billion enterprise is like watching an armadillo try to hump out a Mozart concerto on a cello. You know it’s an obscene affront to human dignity but you don’t know whether to laugh or cry about it.

Those who say Herr Goodell is an incompetent moron have it all wrong – Roger is an astoundingly competent moron. Indeed, a world class moron. In fact, if you took 10 or 20 of the smartest, most talented people in the world and asked to them to devise a plan to royally **** up the NFL, they couldn’t possibly come up with anything remotely as devastating as what Roger Goodell does by lunchtime on your average Tuesday just by showing up. If sheer dumb****ery were an Olympic event (cue national anthem here), Roger would be on national TV swathed in the American flag every four years for the foreseeable future.

Roger’s hired gun - bon vivant/man-about-town Ted Wells (attorney-at-law and independent investigator and objective judge and impartial one-man jury miraculously not influenced by numerous other aforementioned Ted Wells multiple personalities skulking around North America at $800 per hour) - somehow managed to grossly outspend an unlimited budget while taking the Deflated Football matter over not one but several cliffs. Along the way, Wells engaged expert witness opinion manufacturing firm Exponent (company motto: Will Prevaricate for Mega $$$) to bastardize the laws of physics. They delivered handsomely, using imprecise measurements to go from unwarranted assumptions to foregone conclusions. This is the lynchpin of Wells’ case, enabling him to conclude that text messages exchanged between ball-boys shortly after Ground Hog Day were incontrovertible evidence of a dastardly plot by a Hall of Fame caliber player with an impeccable reputation to surreptitiously let a small amount of air out of footballs sometime the following January. Case closed.

Roger’s employment of Troy Vincent as Executioner may well be the single most absurd development in the increasingly bizarre episode. First, it strains the credulity of anyone who doesn’t still use crayons for written communication that Vincent dreamed up The Preposterous Off-with-the-Bastards’-Heads Penalties levied against Brady and the Patriots without the imperial oversight of Blockheadus Maximus (it’s really not all that hard to imagine Goodell wiggling his fingers to make Vincent’s lips move, as unsavory as that might be). Incredible as it may seem, this Kabuki Theater is a nakedly transparent ploy to preserve Goodell’s (ahem) right to serve as the ARBITRATOR who will adjudicate the appeal of Tom Brady’s suspension. But surely, even Rocket Roger could not be that dumb, to take on Brady, Robert Kraft, high powered attorney/NFL nemesis Jeffrey Kessler and the NFLPA in a public high stakes stare down, likely to be covered live on the Worldwide Sewer of Sports Journalism, ESPN. I mean nobody (NOBODY!!!) could possibly be THAT ****ING STUPID!!!! Could they?

But this is Roger Goodell - dimwit. Walking the plank. Jumping overboard while hugging an anchor. I know, I know. He’s a ridiculously overpaid dunce and a constant source of misery to football fans all over the world. But you have to feel just a tiny bit sorry for him. Don’t you?

No? Okay, well **** him then. Roger, over and out.
Zeus for President!
Dikembe for Veep!!
 
How many times in baseball's history a pitcher has been caught tampering with the ball ? And when was the last time baseball made such a huge deal about it (say, 1/100th of deflategate) ?

In baseball, they call that gamesmanship. Goodell decided to call it attacking the integrity of the game.

But the truly funny thing about all this, is that both leagues want more offense....thus baseball should be the ones trying to punish harshly tampering of the balls by pitchers, while the NFL is the one who should go lighter on this issue, as they have been trying over the past 20 years to make it as pass-happy as possible.

The game has no integrity anymore. Everything the league has done about the Wells report has "tarnished the shield" more than any deflation of footballs ever could.
 
Well, usually they get a suspension, no? At least the recent pine tar incident...when Pineda got a 10 game suspension. Perhaps not the best precedent for us to focus on. :oops:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/73202...da-gets-10-game-suspension-for-using-pine-tar

That said, they aren't the same thing, and I would disagree that Brady got caught doing anything. If there were actually good evidence, we would be having a very different conversation.

I was not really talking about suspensions and penalties per se (in my mind, Brady is innocent until proven otherwise), but just the level of scrutiny this has gotten, mainly because the NFL allowed this to become the circus we see today. But no need to compare deflategate to baseball, just when we look at other 'game integrity' penalties given by the NFL, it never reached what we see now, mainly because the NFL didn't allow it to. The Falcons piping noise, and the Vikings-Panthers ball heating; the NFL didn't send the army down there to investigate and allow it to become bigger than it really was. The NFL should have learned from Spygate, if they allowed the story to stay in the news for a long period of time, it gives the impression that it's very much a big deal. I would like to argue with any fan that having football deflated by 0.5 PSI (at home only, since the Pats do not have access to the football on the road), or even taping signals from the sidelines for that matter, is actually helping them more than having a home team piping noise so the opposing team cannot hear anything when on offense....

But, if we are to compare suspensions too, it should be pointed out that Pineda is going to miss 1/16 of one season (or 2 starts out of around 30), while Brady has been suspended for 1/4 of one season.
 
Well, usually they get a suspension, no? At least the recent pine tar incident...when Pineda got a 10 game suspension. Perhaps not the best precedent for us to focus on. :oops:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/73202...da-gets-10-game-suspension-for-using-pine-tar

That said, they aren't the same thing, and I would disagree that Brady got caught doing anything. If there were actually good evidence, we would be having a very different conversation.

In the Pineda case, you could see the substance on his hat during the game. He got his suspension, but there was no investigation of who supplied it to him, how long had he been doing this, what did Joe Girardi know, or discussion of a punishment for the team. The Red Sox even got a little heat for even bringing this up.

My tone probably comes across wrong in the paragraph above. I'm not disagreeing with your point, just trying to point out the ridiculous overreaction to the Patriots situation.
 
From the NFLPA's letter to their close personal friend Troy:

"Please be adivsed that the NFLPA intends to call both you [Vincent] and Commisioner Goodell as essential witnesses in the proceding ... You will both be required to testify about when you became aware of the Colts' complaints about ball deflation and what decisions and steps were thereafter taken to try to set up a "sting operation" to try to implicate the Patriots and Mr. Brady. The latter conduct would present an additional ground for setting aside the discipline imposed."
It seems pretty clear that Commissioner Blockhead cannot serve as arbitrator in a proceeding during which he is required to testify. If he refuses to testify, would that not make him (in the words of the Wells report) "uncooperative"? From what I've heard, that's some pretty serious ****.

Is Roger even vaguely aware that someone has set his pants leg on fire?

Now I could well imagine that both Roger and Troy will end up in the witness protection program before the NFL lawyers will let them testify. Nevertheless, I can't help but fantisize about Roger trying to explain away Mortensen and Blandino and Pash and Gardi and Kensil and Grigson etc., because there is little doubt in my mind that this would be the beginning of the end of the Clueless Reign of Terror of Blockheadus Maximus.
 
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Those who say Herr Goodell is an incompetent moron have it all wrong – Roger is an astoundingly competent moron. Indeed, a world class moron. In fact, if you took 10 or 20 of the smartest, most talented people in the world and asked to them to devise a plan to royally **** up the NFL, they couldn’t possibly come up with anything remotely as devastating as what Roger Goodell does by lunchtime on your average Tuesday just by showing up. If sheer dumb****ery were an Olympic event (cue national anthem here), Roger would be on national TV swathed in the American flag every four years for the foreseeable future.

My favourite commentary on this whole situation by far. Simply magnificent read. This quote sums up my bewildered feelings on the NFL to a tee. How on God's green Earth did this moron ever get paid $44m/year?

Ultimately I'm trying to decide what I liked best, Zeus' breakdown or the footnotes in the NFLPA appeal letter :)
 
Is Roger even vaguely aware that someone has set his pants leg on fire?
I had no idea overstuffed sock puppets wear pants.
 
Zeus...you call Goodell a "dimwit"...WHY? Why the accolade? Why the compliment? Why suck up to this intergalactic moron, rat ba$tard, scumbag, jerkoff POS, azzole, arrogant, punkmouthed disgrace to the human race?

Why Zeus...WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?:(:(:(
 
Zeus...you call Goodell a "dimwit"...WHY? Why the accolade? Why the compliment? Why suck up to this intergalactic moron, rat ba$tard, scumbag, jerkoff POS, azzole, arrogant, punkmouthed disgrace to the human race?

Why Zeus...WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?:(:(:(

Well J, it's like my parents always told be back in the old country. If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.
 
From the NFLPA's letter to their close personal friend Troy:

I really wanted to ask about the "Dear Troy" in such an official letter. So is he still on friendly first name terms with the NFLPA or is this is a colossal piss-take?

I know he was NFLPA president from 2004-2008 but didn't he get accused of disclosing confidential and financial information about player's agents to the NFL.
 
image.jpg Goofell is merely a puppet. Meet the real ringleader...
 
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