Jastremski and McNally will testify at Brady appeal

A class action lawsuit should be filed against the league for the drop off in production at work as a direct result of this ridiculous wells investigation

JarOfMayo51 said:

A class action lawsuit should be filed against the league for the drop off in production at work as a direct result of this ridiculous wells investigation

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I am doing better today at least

hwc said:

Did Goodell take any steps to correct the false information on halftime PSIs leaked to the media by his staff? Did he provide the accurate information to Patriots and allow them to correct the record?

I think it is more probable than not that Goodell was out to get the Pats in this case, regardless of his conscious intentions.

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Bingpot!

Rob0729 said:

None of the CBA will be overturned. The same thing will happen as it did in the Bountygate scandal. It will go to a Federal judge, he/she will overturn Goodell's ruling and it will get handed to a truly independent arbitrator who will likely overturn the suspension.

If your scenario is right that either he has to basically call the Wells report a sham or risk the CBA being rewritten, his is a goner. There is no scenario where he can keep his job. He might as well risk the court will not declare any part of the CBA invalid.

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I don't agree. A previous lawsuit eventually led to a MO supreme court ruling that overturned a piece of the CBA (at least for that state).
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...court-invalidates-commissioner-as-arbitrator/

"While narrow in application to the State of Missouri (which serves as the home of two NFL teams, the Rams and Chiefs), the ruling provides a blueprint for employees who hope to avoid Commissioner-resolved arbitration in the other 21 states in which the NFL does business. It also gives the NFL Players Association and the NFL Referees Association a potential hammer for challenging in court the ability of the Commissioner to continue to serve as the arbitrator over claims brought by players and game officials, respectively"

Lloyd_Christmas said:

I don't agree. A previous lawsuit eventually led to a MO supreme court ruling that overturned a piece of the CBA (at least for that state).
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...court-invalidates-commissioner-as-arbitrator/

"While narrow in application to the State of Missouri (which serves as the home of two NFL teams, the Rams and Chiefs), the ruling provides a blueprint for employees who hope to avoid Commissioner-resolved arbitration in the other 21 states in which the NFL does business. It also gives the NFL Players Association and the NFL Referees Association a potential hammer for challenging in court the ability of the Commissioner to continue to serve as the arbitrator over claims brought by players and game officials, respectively"

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Different case. There is no CBA with team employees (non-players) in this case you mentioned. Brady will likely use this case in his arguments in federal court, but it is highly unlikely any lawsuit will change a document that was agreed to between management and employees. Brady is going to argue for the most part that the NFL violated the terms of the CBA not that the CBA violated his rights.

A Brady lawsuit could result in a CBA, but it is highly, highly unlikely considering almost every one of the NFLPA's points to Troy Vincent today were that he, Goodell, and the League violated rules in the CBA. So the chances that any rules would be really remote because Brady isn't challenging the CBA, he is saying the League violated the letter and spirit of the CBA. Brady is trying to use the existing laws against Goodell and abide by that law as he and the NFLPA see it.

Rob0729 said:

None of the CBA will be overturned. The same thing will happen as it did in the Bountygate scandal. It will go to a Federal judge, he/she will overturn Goodell's ruling and it will get handed to a truly independent arbitrator who will likely overturn the suspension.

If your scenario is right that either he has to basically call the Wells report a sham or risk the CBA being rewritten, his is a goner. There is no scenario where he can keep his job. He might as well risk the court will not declare any part of the CBA invalid.

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Here's the thing though. The longer he holds on, the longer he makes $40m. That's incentive enough.

I talked with an SEC lawyer about the financial meltdown in 2008, and he said the narrative was that many execs in the banks were making so much money that they were cloaking the bad news and risks for as long as they possibly could. There is a big incentive to stay in your position even when you see the end of the line coming.

There are a lot of people in the NFL who didn't like the way Belichick was using ineligible receivers. Coupled with Brady's comment about the rulebook, and they see this as somehow the Patriots getting their comeuppance. That's the attitude.

If Kraft goes along as a good soldier after this, he only has himself to blame. There are so many things he could do right now, even internally, to hit all the pressure points.

The NFL with its clean salary cap is an absolute anomaly in the sporting world. Nothing like it outside the USA. And the cap in the NBA and NHL is nowhere near as equalizing as the NFL is.

upstater1 said:

Here's the thing though. The longer he holds on, the longer he makes $40m. That's incentive enough.

I talked with an SEC lawyer about the financial meltdown in 2008, and he said the narrative was that many execs in the banks were making so much money that they were cloaking the bad news and risks for as long as they possibly could. There is a big incentive to stay in your position even when you see the end of the line coming.

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Then in a hypothetical where either outcome makes him lose his job, he welcomes the court case and tries to drag it out for a year or two.

So who is going to contact Ian and ask him to change their username to "Dorito Dink?"

Someone has to do it.