Patriots Legal Counsel Rebuttal of Wells Report

Whether they go to court or not all depends on Goodell's actions in the coming days/weeks/months.

https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/598924078670585856

All the science in this case proves no murder even occurred no dead body can be found but his nickname is the ghost face killa so he is guilty.

Rob0729 said:

I hate to say this, but from a public PR standpoint this was a swing and miss. If this is warning shot across the bow of Goodell that the Pats have the goods to go to court, they were more successful.

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If what the Pats are saying is true, it was the only way to go.

SVN said:

https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/598924078670585856

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That to me is grounds enough to burn down the ****ing NFL HQ.

SVN said:

https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/598924078670585856

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In terms of a possible defamation lawsuit, then this is the most noteworthy item I found. The NFL clearly preferred that the media run with the incorrect numbers that made the Pats look worse. That seems like malice to me.

NashuaPats said:

I just finished reading it. What agreat rebuttal.

The one thing the media and haters are going to slam them for is the explanation for the term "the deflator"

I may be reaching here, but a big part of Jastremski's job is constantly inflating and deflating dozens of balls at a time. When you do something so much as part of your job, terms from those tasks can be come part of your vocabulary when referring to other things. It would not be weird for him to start using inflate and deflate when referring to things such as gaining or losing weight. Nor would it be unusual for McNally to also adopt those terms when conversing with Jastremski.

Regardless, you can't prosecute someone based on circumstantial evidence when no crime occurred. Having a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry disagree with Exponent's conclusion and say the psi levels were reasonable should be a slam dunk.

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The haters will just point out that the Chemist was born in MA and cry bias. Of course, they also say Goodell's employment history with the Jets is irrelevant.

Wells Report: determination based entirely upon conjecture (and the report admits so)

WellsReportContext: response to determination based entirely upon fact (most of which is either validated by science, confirmed by testimony, or corroborated by the Wells Report itself)

Yes, I winced at the explanation about the "Deflator" text message, even thinking at first that it did not best serve their ultimate objective. Ironically, given the added awareness we all now possess, it may very well reflect the truth. And whatever the Patriots put out into the media environment (at this stage of the game) has to be the truth, regardless of the reaction it might stimulate by media analysts and/or social media. I also think it was important to get their view of the Wells Report out sooner, vs later. The Patriots had to endure being disadvantaged from 19 Jan to 7 May, while the NFL was able to take the high ground of public opinion...even to the extent that they knowingly allowed false information to enhance their desired narrative. And they fancy themselves as the pinnacle of integrity? Leadership by example?

I think it's highly probable that the NFL had general awareness that this entire charade was orchestrated to divert public attention away from their bumbling/stumbling/fumbling attempts to handle challenging matters under its purview....for the sole purpose of perpetuating their jobs, and ultimately their power.

juny said:

and now this, publishing rebuttal suggests the team won't go to court, (laid out all cards):

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/598922792550146048

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How sad, he is trying to reason with himself because he is so scared that the nfl and wells will be shredded in court.

"Well this must mean they aren't going to take action"

No you idiot breer this means Patriots counsel knows they have the nfl and wells nd are putting it out there that they do. How is the nfl or wells going to respond to most of that stuff just openly commit perjury?

SVN said:

https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/598924078670585856

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Donald Trump is wrong - Brady's defamation lawsuit should be $500 million, at the minimum.

Sciz said:

In terms of a possible defamation lawsuit, then this is the most noteworthy item I found. The NFL clearly preferred that the media run with the incorrect numbers that made the Pats look worse. That seems like malice to me.

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The lie in the NFL email to the Pats about 10.1 would also seem to be an indication of malice. Not sure if either and both are enough but its a start.

Here's a big q: WHEN DID WELLS PEOPLE GET THE EXPONENT REPORT?

WHAT DID IT SAY?

Is that why they went back to the previously ignored texts?

the deflator explanation is cringeworthy but I have to expect the pats lawyers are smart enough to also feel the cringe and follow up before putting it out there. Maybe there are more texts wrt to this which can clear this up more.

JMC00 said:

How sad, he is trying to reason with himself because he is so scared that the nfl and wells will be shredded in court.

"Well this must mean they aren't going to take action"

No you idiot breer this means Patriots counsel knows they have the nfl and wells nd are putting it out there that they do. How is the nfl or wells going to respond to most of that stuff just openly commit perjury?

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That's how I interpreted this too. The Pats know their case is such a slam dunk that they're fine with showing their cards. This is an intimidation play to show the NFL that they have a rock-solid case that they're ready to pursue. Now it's up to the NFL to make sure it doesn't come to that.

JMC00 said:

How sad, he is trying to reason with himself because he is so scared that the nfl and wells will be shredded in court.

"Well this must mean they aren't going to take action"

No you idiot breer this means Patriots counsel knows they have the nfl and wells nd are putting it out there that they do. How is the nfl or wells going to respond to most of that stuff just openly commit perjury?

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It could also mean that Kraft is giving the owners a chance to make things right before he goes to war.

A couple of points that aren't going to convince anyone of anything, but hey, why not:

- I actually went through a sudden and massive weight loss recently. I never called myself the deflator (or Dorito Dink, for that matter), but I heard many times from a few different people comments about how I was deflating. I don't think it's unreasonable to think these two might throw that name out there.

- If you do think it's unreasonable and thus a lie, then why wouldn't they have come up with a more plausible lie? Apparently most people roll their eyes at this one. Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to sound plausible while truth is only bound by the possible.

To my ears, the ESPN explanation comes off sounding stranger than the deflator explanation.

BradyFTW! said:

That's how I interpreted this too. The Pats know their case is such a slam dunk that they're fine with showing their cards. This is an intimidation play to show the NFL that they have a rock-solid case that they're ready to pursue. Now it's up to the NFL to make sure it doesn't come to that.

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One thing the Patriots have is a huge advantage with regards to narrative. The NFL has to rely on what it's already got and already based its decisions on. The Patriots can, if they wish, change some of their narrative.

Using facts, science, reasoning? Just like the Barber of York, Tedd Wells and the NFL had no intention of doing so in the first place. They are just interested in fattening their purses and making themselves look good.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/theodoric-of-york/n8661

50-yard-line said:

Donald Trump is wrong - Brady's defamation lawsuit should be $500 million, at the minimum.

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I believe the suit should be a number followed by nine zeros

Rob0729 said:

I hate to say this, but from a public PR standpoint this was a swing and miss

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Yeah, that's pretty much the consensus.