Patriots Legal Counsel Rebuttal of Wells Report

The Patriots explanation of the texts are no more bogus than the Wells report explanation that they showed proof to nefariously deflate game-day footballs..

KontradictioN said:

Eh, I've been on the Pats' side through all of this but the weight loss explanation sounds EXTREMELY made up. I would call ******** on that if I were on the other side of this.

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Maybe but wasn't then how does anyone on the other side explain the "give somebody else that jacket" part of the text?

KontradictioN said:

Eh, I've been on the Pats' side through all of this but the weight loss explanation sounds EXTREMELY made up. I would call ******** on that if I were on the other side of this.

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Part of what McNally does is inflate and deflate balls. It is not inconceivable that he would choose a term that is already part of his life to reference another part of it.

I sincerely hope they are taking the mickey with that deflator quote because but if not that's just made the whole organisation a complete laughing stock

is there any questioning of the 16PSI remark on the report ?

I bet McNally's new nickname will forever be Dorito Dink.

Personally, I think "F*** Tom" and the texts about intentionally over inflating balls are both perfectly good reasons to temporarily suspend employees during further investigation. That's out of line.

Deus Irae said:

They had to address those texts, if they were going to respond to the report. It should come as no surprise that trying to fully explain the texts of guys using "Doritos Dink" will take more than a few words on a page.

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It undermines the meat of their rebuttal because of how silly that particular explanation sounds, even if it's true.

JoeShmoe said:

I sincerely hope they are taking the mickey with that deflator quote because but if not that's just made the whole organisation a complete laughing stock

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They have a nobel laureate that exonerates them based on the science alone and on facts already in the Wells report.

http://wellsreportcontext.com/mackinnons-scientific-conclusion/

I'm sorry thats not good enough for you.

The Patriots response should have been

"We're on to the appeal".


Instead, they've now needlessly locked themselves into a narrative.

KontradictioN said:

Eh, I've been on the Pats' side through all of this but the weight loss explanation sounds EXTREMELY made up. I would call ******** on that if I were on the other side of this.

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Me to, so i'd like to know how it came up. For example since they're working with the footballs and on of them is trying to lose wgt its not in-concievable at all for the two of them bantering back and forth and and the term deflator comes up, but thats all wells has and that is not enough when taken in context with all the rest to come to the conclusion that there was a plot to deflate the footballs.

condon84 said:

It undermines the meat of their rebuttal because of how silly that particular explanation sounds, even if it's true.

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Only a human being without the ability to think or reason would be so stupid as to take that approach.

So, you're probably correct with about 90-95 percent of the country.

This is the good fight I was hoping Kraft would put up. So glad they are not taking this laying down.

I didnt want to make another thread but god damn volin is an idiot

@BenVolin
Kraft last week: "Fighting the league & extending this debate would prove to be futile." Apparently changed his mind pic.twitter.com/xf7lhtZf3C


Did he not see what Kraft said after the punishment came out?

I plead with the PatsFans admin. to please remove him from the twitter feed

Froob said:

I bet McNally's new nickname will forever be Dorito Dink.

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Can it actually be goodells or wells nickname instead?

reflexblue said:

And Thats That.

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Roger meet Tommy ....... Now we need to see the vid of Kensel in the Telephone booth when he gets the news.

Deus Irae said:

The Patriots response should have been

"We're on to the appeal".


Instead, they've now needlessly locked themselves into a narrative.

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Yes but the person that controls the appeal process is influenced by public opinion and litigation- not his own convictions.

The narrative/rebuttal is n important part of their appeal & legal strategy.

Regarding the "deflate" interpretation:
An odd term no doubt, yet the term “deflate” is used in context of weight loss…..the earlier text is very clear. That is a fact that Wells ignored to report. Funny how Wells left that out in order retain the context he desired.
Having read the entirety of the rebuttal, Brady and NE should focus their appeals on the science first and foremost and then the lack of any direct evidence linking Brady. Focusing on the text conversations leave too much to the imagination.......and many different conclusions can be drawn. Stick to science.

Matt Chatham ‏@chatham58 18m18 minutes ago
FWIW, there's a long-standing tradition of offseason weight-loss competitions B2WN #Patriots staff, coaches, etc. This part made sense 2 me

https://wellsreportc...5/3427_0011.pdf

"Evidence of Indianapolis ball boys with needles in a prior season..."

uh..... Peyton? They'll never investigate that of course, but christ would that be great.