The ideal gas law was disproven?

Was listening to the douche 2-6 show for a few minutes because Bedard is on and apparentl according to the two idiots the ideal gas law was disproven in the report. That's odd because the firm wells had do the science actually proved the ideal gas law and wells just chose to ignore it.

Ya I know shame on me for listening for the few minutes I did. I just find it funny that we get called "toadies" and we'll believe whatever the Pats are selling us but these guys outright ignore stuff to help their shtick.

Also another thing to come out of this mess, my opinion on Bedard has soured very much, it seems like he is really buying into the sham of a report.

As soon as I heard that I turned it off. Can't tell you how often I've used that teaching CHEM.

Frustrating. If you don't understand the math, how can you talk about this intelligently ?

I stupidly thought Bedard would be the voice of reason. Was shocked to hear him back up the two clowns. Then some caller said they were the only reasonable coverage of deflate gate in the Boston area. I had to shut if off. What was I thinking?

I don't think people understand how important this fact is. The data in the report overwhelmingly indicate that the balls hit the field at 12.5. Combine that with Anderson's testimony that they were inflated to 12.5 and it means that McNally wasn't deflating the balls in the bathroom. It also means that the league has zero evidence - literally none whatsoever - that balls were ever deflated. Period. As well as diminishing the weight of the texts and the obstruction.

It's no wonder Wells scurried past that point with his head down and full presumptions of guilt intact. The entire case depends on it!

Mark. said:

I stupidly thought Bedard would be the voice of reason. Was shocked to hear him back up the two clowns. Then some caller said they were the only reasonable coverage of deflate gate in the Boston area. I had to shut if off. What was I thinking?

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Bedard has been drinking too much of his boss's Kool Aide.

Oswlek said:

I don't think people understand how important this fact is. The data in the report overwhelmingly indicate that the balls hit the field at 12.5. Combine that with Anderson's testimony that they were inflated to 12.5 and it means that McNally wasn't deflating the balls in the bathroom. It also means that the league has zero evidence - literally none whatsoever - that balls were ever deflated. Period. As well as diminishing the weight of the texts and the obstruction.

It's no wonder Wells scurried past that point with his head down and full presumptions of guilt intact. The entire case depends on it!

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Not trying to be funny or obtuse but where & how does the report say that?

Oswlek said:

I don't think people understand how important this fact is. The data in the report overwhelmingly indicate that the balls hit the field at 12.5. Combine that with Anderson's testimony that they were inflated to 12.5 and it means that McNally wasn't deflating the balls in the bathroom. It also means that the league has zero evidence - literally none whatsoever - that balls were ever deflated. Period. As well as diminishing the weight of the texts and the obstruction.

It's no wonder Wells scurried past that point with his head down and full presumptions of guilt intact. The entire case depends on it!

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People don't want to hear it, @Oswlek. It doesn't make headlines and it doesn't fit the NFL's agenda.

The only way to make them listen and do the right thing is to sue their asses by creating a major **** storm.

Let justice be done or let the heavens fall.

If the balls didn't deflate naturally then obviously they were tampered with.

Then why oh why was 75% of the colts balls also deflated?

Why is it that their balls we're innocently illegal while ours we're maliciously illegal?

Did mr wells go through their ball boys text or what or did he just choose to believe it was innocent

I am sure those two clowns did not have any evidence to back up their b.s. claims because the report does not have any.

They are a waste of radio space.

I had to scold my wife for clicking on a Squeaky article yesterday to read the comment section. I told her that those two just say anything inflammatory to get a response, and that the best way to get rid of them is to ignore them.

PatsWickedPissah said:

Not trying to be funny or obtuse but where & how does the report say that?

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IMO pg 113 calls this out pretty clearly.

JMC00 said:

Was listening to the douche 2-6 show for a few minutes because Bedard is on and apparentl according to the two idiots the ideal gas law was disproven in the report. That's odd because the firm wells had do the science actually proved the ideal gas law and wells just chose to ignore it.

Ya I know shame on me for listening for the few minutes I did. I just find it funny that we get called "toadies" and we'll believe whatever the Pats are selling us but these guys outright ignore stuff to help their shtick.

Also another thing to come out of this mess, my opinion on Bedard has soured very much, it seems like he is really buying into the sham of a report.

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This should be like yelling fire in a crowded theater. If Capitalism is being able to spew baseless ******** and besmirch people with no evidence, just to make a buck, then put me down for European socialism.

I've posted this here and elsewhere but it can't be stressed enough: the intercepted ball was measured by NFL officials at 11.75, 11.45 and 11.4. Forget everything about the balls normalizing once they're indoors, forget about the Colts balls as a control group, forget everything you've heard about EVERYTHING! The intercepted ball that started everything was inflated to exactly where you'd expect it. There is NO investigation if the dumbasses on the sidelines taking the measurements knew the science, they'd have laughed at the Colts.

But here we are, debating whether the ideal gas law was debunked by an NFL report.

I really dont know what happened to those two guys, I used to enjoy listening to them, but no more. They have become absolute hypocritical a**-clowns as of late. To me it seems pretty obvious they are going with the anti-Pats angle, probably to counter WEEI's pro Pats angle (especially with Thornton) .

They claim the report is full of holes, yet never debate or bring them up. They have claimed since the AFCC that BB is 100% complicit in this. But when the report came out and BB was absolved of any wrong doing, they simply say that they were covering for BB and that he "got off easy". But again, they use the Wells report as clear evidence in Bradys supposed wrong doing. They constantly make accusations that the NFL "must" have more that they are not telling us, despite having no proof or even soft evidence. But whenever someone calls in with another theory that is pro Brady, they mock them.

They have been doing this for a while, but I think I was so high after SB win, I never noticed. Like how they kept saying the Brady is the best ever only because of the Butler INT, but always seems to never bring up Bradys 4th qtr performance, which is the best ever by a QB in a superbowl. They even go as far to make reference to Bradys possibly being on PED's. I see their rating declining very soon.

JMC00 said:

Was listening to the douche 2-6 show for a few minutes because Bedard is on and apparentl according to the two idiots the ideal gas law was disproven in the report. That's odd because the firm wells had do the science actually proved the ideal gas law and wells just chose to ignore it.

Ya I know shame on me for listening for the few minutes I did. I just find it funny that we get called "toadies" and we'll believe whatever the Pats are selling us but these guys outright ignore stuff to help their shtick.

Also another thing to come out of this mess, my opinion on Bedard has soured very much, it seems like he is really buying into the sham of a report.

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Is it possible to have a collapsed lung and then not have a collapsed lung? Don't listen to them, they don't deserve the ratings.

PatsWickedPissah said:

Not trying to be funny or obtuse but where & how does the report say that?

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No worries.

Per the reports own scientists, 8 of the 11 Patriots balls were at or above the predicted value based solely on atmospheric conditions. The remaining three were trivially below and within the margin for error even before factoring in erroneous assumptions such as 71 degree starting temp (actual was 69 according to the report), 5.5 minutes remaining (the report explicitly says they were running out of time so the balls were warmer), not using readily available water temperature data and a laissez faire water spritzing technique that doesn't accurately represent how much fluid a ball being used on a wet field would take on.

Unsurprisingly, all of these assumptions as disregarding Anderson's testimony of which gauge was used, introduced a bias against the Patriots.

So, despite their best efforts to misrepresent the findings, the majority of the balls were still acceptable (i.e. 12.5 or above) and the furthest out of compliance they were able to measure was 0.7 psi.

farn said:

Frustrating. If you don't understand the math, how can you talk about this intelligently ?

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The really sad part is that ALL of the necessary math skills to understand this should have been learned by the seventh grade. It's pre-algebra!

It has been disproven as long as you agree with Ted Wells that Walt Anderson's memory is impeccable when it comes to the PSI of the balls, but sucks when it comes to which gauge he used to get those PSI levels.

My co worker put this on the TV today and i almost threw the TV out the window...That fraud is a JOKE

Rob0729 said:

It has been disproven as long as you agree with Ted Wells that Walt Anderson's memory is impeccable when it comes to the PSI of the balls, but sucks when it comes to which gauge he used to get those PSI levels.

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Either gauge still makes balls conforment to natural law given uncertainties (error bars)

JMC00 said:

Was listening to the douche 2-6 show for a few minutes because Bedard is on and apparentl according to the two idiots the ideal gas law was disproven in the report. That's odd because the firm wells had do the science actually proved the ideal gas law and wells just chose to ignore it.

Ya I know shame on me for listening for the few minutes I did. I just find it funny that we get called "toadies" and we'll believe whatever the Pats are selling us but these guys outright ignore stuff to help their shtick.

Also another thing to come out of this mess, my opinion on Bedard has soured very much, it seems like he is really buying into the sham of a report.

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Yea, one guage showed Patriots balls on avg obeyed the Ideal Gas Law. The other Gauge did not. The solution they came up with was a hypothetical master guage reading. One experiment was using 10 different guages to get a master guage reading. Another was using 8 different guages plus the two used at halftime. This hypothetical master guage was the one they used to say the Patriots balls did not obey the Ideal Gas Law. Which master guage they used the 10 diff one or the 8 diff 2 halftime one, I have no clue. I will say I tried to follow those experiments through but I got boggled down trying to follow what they were doing.